Romanization challenge thread

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/p t ts (tʃ) k q ʔ/ <p t c k ḳ q>
/pʰ tʰ tsʰ kʰ qʰ/ <ph th ch kh ḳh>
/b d dz g ˤɢ~ʕ/ <b d z g ġ>
/bʱ dʱ dzʱ gʱ/ <bh dh zh gh>
/s χ h/ <s j h>
/m n ɲ ŋ ɴ/ <m n ny ng nġ>
/l r j w/ <l r y v>

/a e o i ə u/ - <a e o i ẹ u>
nasalization - grave accent
length - acute accent
nasalization and length - circumflex
/n̩/ <n>

nən gipən tsoɢdadn̩ dzʰəmindzi. nu nigimdzi wa ɲaɢan. tok kʰaidzi dzaɢən tsidan. na tsi dãbadi gimi, nənda eduwa. tsi edn̩ gimi hampe hurəni. pinda təmda egauːda, təmda egi. poχlagaːɢi gəmən. tənda tsja tsoɴən olaŋ otaŋ. tsi wi ənda olãɴtn̩. goraq tsi daŋ tʃaɢan.

Nẹn gipẹn coġdadn zhẹminzi. Nu nigimzi va nyaġan. Tok khaizi zaġẹn cidan. Na ci dàbadi gimi, nẹnda eduva. Ci edn gimi hampe hurẹni. Pinda tẹmda egaúda, tẹmda egi. Pojlagáġi gẹmẹn. Tẹnda cya coṇẹn olang otang. Ci vi ẹnda olànġtn. Goraḳ ci dang taġan.
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
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Classical Arabic

/t k ʔ/
/b d ɟ ɢˠ/
/m n/
/f θ s sˠ ɕ χˠ ħ h/
/ð ðˠ ɮˠ z ʁˠ ʕ/
/l~lˠ (ɾˠ~ɾ~)r/
/j w/

/a i u aː iː uː/

/ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu að.ðilːatu ʔajna maː θuɢˠifuː ʔilːaː biħablin mina aɫːaːhi wa ħablin mina an.nasi wa baːʔuː biʁˠaɮˠabin mina aɫːaːhi wa ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu almaskanatu ðaːlika biʔanːahum kaːnuː jakfuruːna biʔaːjaːti aɫːaːhi wa jaɢˠtuluːna alʔanbijaːʔa biʁˠajri ħaɢˠːin ðaːlika bimaː ʕasˠaw wa kaːnuː jaʕtaduːna/1) 2)

1) I have no idea about prosody because I used a shitty transliteration and I don't think there are prosody marks in the Arabic to begin with.
2) Quran 3.112 if anybody wants to check for errors.
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Classical Arabic

/t k ʔ/ <t k q>
/b d ɟ ɢˠ/ <b d j g>
/m n/ <m n>
/f θ s sˠ ɕ χˠ ħ h/ <f þ s s' ś x ħ h>
/ð ðˠ ɮˠ z ʁˠ ʕ/ <ð ð' l' z ŕ ȟ>
/l~lˠ (ɾˠ~ɾ~)r/ <l r>
/j w/ <y w>

/a i u aː iː uː/ <a i u á í ú>

/ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu að.ðilːatu ʔajna maː θuɢˠifuː ʔilːaː biħablin mina aɫːaːhi wa ħablin mina an.nasi wa baːʔuː biʁˠaɮˠabin mina aɫːaːhi wa ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu almaskanatu ðaːlika biʔanːahum kaːnuː jakfuruːna biʔaːjaːti aɫːaːhi wa jaɢˠtuluːna alʔanbijaːʔa biʁˠajri ħaɢˠːin ðaːlika bimaː ʕasˠaw wa kaːnuː jaʕtaduːna/

L'uribat ȟalayhimu aððillatu qayna má þugifú qillá biħablin mina alláhi wa ħablin mina annasi wa báqú biŕal'abin mina alláhi wa l'uribat ȟalayhimu almaskanatu ðálika biqannahum kánú yakfurúna biqáyáti alláhi wa yagtulúna alqanbiyáqa biŕayri ħaggin ðálika bimá ȟas'aw wa kánú yaȟadúna.

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/t k ʔ/ t k ʾ
/b d ɟ ɢˠ/ b d g g̉
/m n/ m n
/f θ s sˠ ɕ χˠ ħ h/ f ṭ s s̉ ś x ḥ h
/ð ðˠ ɮˠ z ʁˠ ʕ/ ḍ ḍ̉ ł z ɣ ʿ
/l~lˠ ɾˠ~ɾ~r/ l r
/j w/ j w

/a i u aː iː uː/ a i u ā ī ū

/ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu að.ðilːatu ʔajna maː θuɢˠifuː ʔilːaː biħablin mina aɫːaːhi wa ħablin mina an.nasi wa baːʔuː biʁˠaɮˠabin mina aɫːaːhi wa ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu almaskanatu ðaːlika biʔanːahum kaːnuː jakfuruːna biʔaːjaːti aɫːaːhi wa jaɢˠtuluːna alʔanbijaːʔa biʁˠajri ħaɢˠːin ðaːlika bimaː ʕasˠaw wa kaːnuː jaʕtaduːna/

Łuribat ʿalajhimu aḍḍillatu ʾajna mā ṭug̉ifū ʾillā biḥablin mina allāhi wa ḥablin mina annasi wa bāʾū biɣałabin mina allāhi wa łuribat ʿalajhimu almaskanatu ḍālika biʾannahum kānū jakfurūna biʾājāti allāhi wa jag̉tulūna alʾanbijāʾa biɣajri ḥag̉g̉in ḍālika bimā ʿas̉aw wa kānū jaʿtadūna.
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Classical Arabic

/t k ʔ/ <t k q>
/b d ɟ ɢˠ/ <b d j g>
/m n/ <m n>
/f θ s sˠ ɕ χˠ ħ h/ <f th s sh c ch hj h>
/ð ðˠ ɮˠ z ʁˠ ʕ/ <v dh lh z zh qh>
/l~lˠ (ɾˠ~ɾ~)r/ <l r>
/j w/ <y w>

/a i u aː iː uː/ <a i u â î û>

/ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu að.ðilːatu ʔajna maː θuɢˠifuː ʔilːaː biħablin mina aɫːaːhi wa ħablin mina an.nasi wa baːʔuː biʁˠaɮˠabin mina aɫːaːhi wa ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu almaskanatu ðaːlika biʔanːahum kaːnuː jakfuruːna biʔaːjaːti aɫːaːhi wa jaɢˠtuluːna alʔanbijaːʔa biʁˠajri ħaɢˠːin ðaːlika bimaː ʕasˠaw wa kaːnuː jaʕtaduːna/
<Lhuribat qhalayhimu avvillatu qayna mâ thugifû qillâ bihjablin mina allâhi wa hjablin mina annasi wa bâqû bizhalhabin mina allâhi wa lhuribat qhalayhimu almaskanatu vâlika biqannahum kânû yakfurûna biqâyâti allâhi wa yagtulûna alqanbiyâqa bizhayri hjaggin vâlika bimâ qhashaw wa kânû yaqhtadûna>
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/t k ʔ/ t k '
/b d ɟ ɢˠ/ b d j g
/m n/ m n
/f θ s sˠ ɕ χˠ ħ h/ f ş ś š x ħ h
/ð ðˠ ɮˠ z ʁˠ ʕ/ z ź ĺ ŕ ă
/l~lˠ (ɾˠ~ɾ~)r/ l r
/j w/ y w

/a i u aː iː uː/ a i u ā ī ū

/ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu að.ðilːatu ʔajna maː θuɢˠifuː ʔilːaː biħablin mina aɫːaːhi wa ħablin mina an.nasi wa baːʔuː biʁˠaɮˠabin mina aɫːaːhi wa ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu almaskanatu ðaːlika biʔanːahum kaːnuː jakfuruːna biʔaːjaːti aɫːaːhi wa jaɢˠtuluːna alʔanbijaːʔa biʁˠajri ħaɢˠːin ðaːlika bimaː ʕasˠaw wa kaːnuː jaʕtaduːna/
ĺuribat ăalayhimu azzillatu 'ayna mā şugifū 'illā biħablin mina allāhi wa ħablin mina annasi wa bā'ū biŕaĺabin mina allāhi wa ĺuribat ăalayhimu almaskanatu zālika bi'annahum kānū yakfurūna bi'āyāti allāhi wa yagtulūna al'anbiyā'a biŕayri ħaggin zālika bimā ăaśaw wa kānū yaătadūna

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Classical Arabic

/t k ʔ/ <t k p>
/b d ɟ ɢˠ/ <b d j g>
/m n/ <m n>
/f θ s sˠ ɕ χˠ ħ h/ <f th s sh c kh q h>
/ð ðˠ ɮˠ z ʁˠ ʕ/ <dh gh lh z rh qh>
/l~lˠ (ɾˠ~ɾ~)r/ <l r>
/j w/ <y w>

/a i u aː iː uː/ <' e o a i u>

/ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu að.ðilːatu ʔajna maː θuɢˠifuː ʔilːaː biħablin mina aɫːaːhi wa ħablin mina an.nasi wa baːʔuː biʁˠaɮˠabin mina aɫːaːhi wa ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu almaskanatu ðaːlika biʔanːahum kaːnuː jakfuruːna biʔaːjaːti aɫːaːhi wa jaɢˠtuluːna alʔanbijaːʔa biʁˠajri ħaɢˠːin ðaːlika bimaː ʕasˠaw wa kaːnuː jaʕtaduːna/

Lhorebat qh'l'yhemo 'dhdhell'to p'yn' ma thogefu pella beq'blen men' 'llahe wa q'blen men' 'nn'se wa bapu berh'lh'ben men' 'llahe wa lhorebat qh'l'yhemo 'lm'sk'n'to dhalek' bip'nn'hom kanu y'kforun' bepayate 'llahe wa y'gtolun' 'lp'nbeyapa berh'yre q'gin dhalek' bema qh'sh'w w' kanu y'qht'dun'

' is optional
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/t k ʔ/ <t k q>
/b d ɟ ɢˠ/ <b d j g>
/m n/ <m n>
/f θ s sˠ ɕ χˠ ħ h/ <f th s sg sh x kg h>
/ð ðˠ ɮˠ z ʁˠ ʕ/ <dh dg zg z gh c>
/l~lˠ (ɾˠ~ɾ~)r/ <l r>
/j w/ <y w>

/a i u aː iː uː/ <a i u aa ei ou>

/ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu að.ðilːatu ʔajna maː θuɢˠifuː ʔilːaː biħablin mina aɫːaːhi wa ħablin mina an.nasi wa baːʔuː biʁˠaɮˠabin mina aɫːaːhi wa ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu almaskanatu ðaːlika biʔanːahum kaːnuː jakfuruːna biʔaːjaːti aɫːaːhi wa jaɢˠtuluːna alʔanbijaːʔa biʁˠajri ħaɢˠːin ðaːlika bimaː ʕasˠaw wa kaːnuː jaʕtaduːna/
Zguribat calayhimu adh-dhillatu qayna maa thugifou qillaa bikgablin mina allaahi wa kgablin mina annasi wa baaqou bighazgabin mina allaahi wa zguribat calayhimu almaskanatu dhaalika biqannahum kaanou yakfurouna biqaayaati allaahi wa yagtulouna alqanbiyaaqa bighayri kgaggin dhaalika bimaa casgaw wa kaanou yactadouna.
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Classical Arabic

/t k ʔ/ <t k '*> *unwritten initially
/b d ɟ ɢˠ/ <b d j g>
/m n/ <m n>
/f θ s sˠ ɕ χˠ ħ h/ <t ṭ s ṣ ṡ ḥ ħ h>
/ð ðˠ ɮˠ z ʁˠ ʕ/ <ḍ ẓ ḷ z ġ q>
/l~lˠ (ɾˠ~ɾ~)r/ <l r>
/j w/ <l w>

/a i u aː iː uː/ <a i u ā ī ū>

/ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu að.ðilːatu ʔajna maː θuɢˠifuː ʔilːaː biħablin mina aɫːaːhi wa ħablin mina an.nasi wa baːʔuː biʁˠaɮˠabin mina aɫːaːhi wa ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu almaskanatu ðaːlika biʔanːahum kaːnuː jakfuruːna biʔaːjaːti aɫːaːhi wa jaɢˠtuluːna alʔanbijaːʔa biʁˠajri ħaɢˠːin ðaːlika bimaː ʕasˠaw wa kaːnuː jaʕtaduːna/1) 2)


Ḷuribat qalayhimu aḍḍillatu ayna mā ṭugifū illā biħablin mina allāhi wa ħablin mina annasi wa bā'ū biġaḷabin mina allāhi wa ḷuribat qalayhimu almaskanatu ḍālika bi'annahum kānū yakfurūna bi'āyāti allāhi wa yagtulūna al'anbiyā'a biġayri ħaggin ḍālika bimā qaṣaw wa kānū yaqtadūna.
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.

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Classical Arabic

/t k ʔ/ t k ʼ
/b d ɟ ɢˠ/ b d y g
/m n/ m n
/f θ s sˠ ɕ χˠ ħ h/ v tg s sg c cg ḥ h
/ð ðˠ ɮˠ z ʁˠ ʕ/ dg zg lg z rg x
/l~lˠ (ɾˠ~ɾ~)r/ l r
/j w/ ı/e u/o

/a i u aː iː uː/ a ı u á í ú

Lgurıbat xalaıhımu addgıllatu ʼaına má tgugıvú ʼıllá bıḥablın mına alláhı ua ḥablın mına annası ua báʼú bıtgalgabın mına alláhı ua lgurıbat xalaıhımu almaskanatu dgálıka bıʼannahum kánú ıakvurúna bıʼáıátı alláhı ua ıagtulúna alʼanbıeáʼa bırgaırı ḥaggın dgálıka bımá xasgau ua kánú ıaxtadúna.
/ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu að.ðilːatu ʔajna maː θuɢˠifuː ʔilːaː biħablin mina aɫːaːhi wa ħablin mina an.nasi wa baːʔuː biʁˠaɮˠabin mina aɫːaːhi wa ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu almaskanatu ðaːlika biʔanːahum kaːnuː jakfuruːna biʔaːjaːti aɫːaːhi wa jaɢˠtuluːna alʔanbijaːʔa biʁˠajri ħaɢˠːin ðaːlika bimaː ʕasˠaw wa kaːnuː jaʕtaduːna/

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Classical Arabic

/t k ʔ/ t k '
/b d ɟ ɢˠ/ b d j g
/m n/ m n
/f θ s sˠ ɕ χˠ ħ h/ f(s) f(b) s(s) s(b) z(s) x(s) x(b) h
/ð ðˠ ɮˠ z ʁˠ ʕ/ v(s) v(b) l(b) z(b) q(s) q(b)
/l~lˠ (ɾˠ~ɾ~)r/ l(s) r
/j w/ y w

/a i u aː iː uː/ a i u á í ú

(s) denotes slender consonants and (b) denotes broad. Between a slender consonant and a u á ú insert e. Between a broad consonant and i í insert o.

/ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu að.ðilːatu ʔajna maː θuɢˠifuː ʔilːaː biħablin mina aɫːaːhi wa ħablin mina an.nasi wa baːʔuː biʁˠaɮˠabin mina aɫːaːhi wa ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu almaskanatu ðaːlika biʔanːahum kaːnuː jakfuruːna biʔaːjaːti aɫːaːhi wa jaɢˠtuluːna alʔanbijaːʔa biʁˠajri ħaɢˠːin ðaːlika bimaː ʕasˠaw wa kaːnuː jaʕtaduːna/
luribat qaeleayhimu aevvilleatu 'ayna má fugifeú 'illá bioxablin mina aelleáhi wa hablin mina annaesi wa bá'ú biqealabin mina aelleáhi wa luribat qaeleayhimu aelmaeskanatu veáelika bi'annahum kánú yakfeurúna bi'áyáti aelleáhi wa yagtueleúna ael'anbiyá'a biqeayri xaggin veáelika bimá qasawwa kánú yaqtadúna

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Um, Classical Arabic does not work that way. There is no systematic opposition and the velarised consonants derive from ejectives via pharyngealised consonants, and are not conditioned by vowels.

Or are you romanising it this way just for the fuck of it?
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[quote="Inversion"]/t k ʔ/ t k ʔ
/b d ɟ ɢˠ/ b d g ḳ
/m n/ m n
/f θ s sˠ ɕ χˠ ħ h/ p c s ṣ ś x x̣ ẖ
/ð ðˠ ɮˠ z ʁˠ ʕ/ j c̣ ṣ́ z ğ ʕ
/l~lˠ ɾˠ~ɾ~r/ l r
/j w/ j w

/a i u aː iː uː/ a i u ā ī ū
/aj ai/ ē
/aw au/ ō
/wa/ o
/ja/ e

/ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu að.ðilːatu ʔajna maː θuɢˠifuː ʔilːaː biħablin mina aɫːaːhi wa ħablin mina an.nasi wa baːʔuː biʁˠaɮˠabin mina aɫːaːhi wa ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu almaskanatu ðaːlika biʔanːahum kaːnuː jakfuruːna biʔaːjaːti aɫːaːhi wa jaɢˠtuluːna alʔanbijaːʔa biʁˠajri ħaɢˠːin ðaːlika bimaː ʕasˠaw wa kaːnuː jaʕtaduːna/

Ṣ́uribat ʕalēhimu ajjillatu ʔena mā cuḳipū ʔillā bix̣ablin mina allāhi o ̣ x̣ablin mina annasi o bāʔū biḥaṥabin mina allāhi o ṥuribat ʕalēhimu almaskanatu jālika biʔannahum kānū ekpurūna biʔāyāti allāhi o eḳtulūna alʔanbiyāʔa biğēri ħaḳḳin jālika bimā ʕaṣo o kānū eʕtadūna
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Something for you to play with - a yet unnamed and preliminary sketch for an African protolang.

Consonants

/p t s t͡ɬ k/
/m͡b n͡d n͡z n͡ɮ ŋ͡g/
/| ! ||/
/ⁿ| ⁿ! ⁿ||/

Vowels

/i e æ o u/ (+ATR)
/ɪ ɛ ɑ ɔ ʊ/ (-ATR)

There is ATR vowel harmony.

Tones

/æ˥ æ˧ æ˩/

Phonotactics

CVC, clicks may not occur in codas; clusters must agree in nasalization.

Sample text (made-up and meaningless)

/tæ˥!i˩ !ɛ˧kt͡ɬɪ˩ n͡ɮ˥otki˩s ||e˥n͡zⁿ|i˧/
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/p t s t͡ɬ k/ <p t s tl k>
/m͡b n͡d n͡z n͡ɮ ŋ͡g/ <mb nd nz nl ng>
/| ! ||/ <c q x>
/ⁿ| ⁿ! ⁿ||/ <nc nq nx>

/i e æ o u/ (+ATR) <ii ee aa oo uu>
/ɪ ɛ ɑ ɔ ʊ/ (-ATR) <i e a o u>

There is ATR vowel harmony. Therefore +ATR vowels are only doubled in the first syllable.

Tones

/æ˥ æ˧ æ˩/ <á a à>

Phonotactics

Clusters must agree in nasalization, so only the first consonant in a nasal cluster is written as a digraph.

Sample text (made-up and meaningless)

/tæ˥!i˩ !ɛ˧kt͡ɬɪ˩ n͡ɮo˥tki˩s ||e˥n͡zⁿ|i˧/
Tááqì qektlì nlóótkìs xéénzci.

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WeepingElf's challenge

/p t s t͡ɬ k/ <p t s l k>
/m͡b n͡d n͡z n͡ɮ ŋ͡g/ <b d z r g>
/| ! ||/ <c q x>
/ⁿ| ⁿ! ⁿ||/ <nc nq nx>

/i e æ o u/ <i e a o u>
/ɪ ɛ ɑ ɔ ʊ/ <ị ẹ ạ ọ ụ>

/æ˥ æ˧ æ˩/ <á a à>

/tæ˥!i˩ !ɛ˧kt͡ɬɪ˩ n͡ɮ˥otki˩s ||e˥n͡zⁿ|i˧/
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sangi39 wrote:Dē Graut Bʉr's challenge
Just for the record: my (WeepingElf's) challenge, not Dē Graut Bʉr's ;)
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Let me make a challenge which you then romanise as "WeepingElf's challenge"!

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Dē Graut Bʉr wrote:Let me make a challenge which you then romanise as "WeepingElf's challenge"!
WeepingElf wrote:
sangi39 wrote:Dē Graut Bʉr's challenge
Just for the record: my (WeepingElf's) challenge, not Dē Graut Bʉr's ;)
Well, that'd be my mistake :P Edited for accuracy, haha :-D
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Classical Arabic

/t k ʔ/ <t k q>
/b d ɟ ɢˠ/ <b d g gg>
/m n/ <m n>
/f θ s sˠ ɕ χˠ ħ h/ <f tt s ss x xx hh h>
/ð ðˠ ɮˠ z ʁˠ ʕ/ <dd zz ll z rr qq>
/l~lˠ (ɾˠ~ɾ~)r/ <l r>
/j w/ <y v>
Interpunct used for geminate consonants.

/a i u aː iː uː/ <a i u aa ii uu>

/ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu að.ðilːatu ʔajna maː θuɢˠifuː ʔilːaː biħablin mina aɫːaːhi wa ħablin mina an.nasi wa baːʔuː biʁˠaɮˠabin mina aɫːaːhi wa ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu almaskanatu ðaːlika biʔanːahum kaːnuː jakfuruːna biʔaːjaːti aɫːaːhi wa jaɢˠtuluːna alʔanbijaːʔa biʁˠajri ħaɢˠːin ðaːlika bimaː ʕasˠaw wa kaːnuː jaʕtaduːna/

Lluribat qqalayhimu addddil·latu qayna maa ttuggifuu qil·laa bihhablin mina al·laahi wa hhablin mina annasi wa baaquu birrallabin mina al·laahi wa lluribat qqalayhimu almaskanatu ddaalika biqannahum kaanuu yakfuruuna biqaayaati al·laahi va yaggtuluuna alqanbiyaaqa birrayri hhaggggin ddaalika bimaa qqassav va kaanuu yaqqtaduuna.


WeepingElf's lang

/p t s t͡ɬ k/ <p t s tl k>
/m͡b n͡d n͡z n͡ɮ ŋ͡g/ <b d z dl g>
/| ! ||/ <tx lx kx>
/ⁿ| ⁿ! ⁿ||/ <dx dlx gx>

/i e æ o u/ (+ATR) <ī ē ā ō ū>
/ɪ ɛ ɑ ɔ ʊ/ (-ATR) <i e a o u>
/æ˥ æ˧ æ˩/ <â/á ā/a ǎ/à>

CVC, clicks may not occur in codas; clusters must agree in nasalization.

/tæ˥!i˩ !ɛ˧kt͡ɬɪ˩ n͡ɮ˥otki˩s ||e˥n͡zⁿ|i˧/
Tâlxǐ lxektlì dlôtkǐa kxêzdxī[/quote]
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Here's a thread on Oscan.

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Classical Arabic:

/t k ʔ/ <t k kk>
/b d ɟ ɢˠ/ <b d gy g>
/m n/ <m n>
/f θ s sˠ ɕ χˠ ħ h/ <f sz s ss sy hy h hh>
/ð ðˠ ɮˠ z ʁˠ ʕ/ <z zz ll zs rr gg>
/l~lˠ (ɾˠ~ɾ~)r/ <l r>
/j w/ <j v>

/a i u aː iː uː/ <a i u á í ú>

Lluribat ggalajhhimu az'zil'latu kkajna má szugifú kkil'lá bihablin mina al'láhhi va hablin mina an'nasi va bákkú birrallabin mina al'láhhi va lluribat ggalajhhimu almaskanatu zálika bikkan'nahhum kánú jakfurúna bikkájáti al'láhhi va jagtulúna alkkanbijákka birrajri hag'gin zálika bimá ggassav va kánú jaggtadúna.
/ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu að.ðilːatu ʔajna maː θuɢˠifuː ʔilːaː biħablin mina aɫːaːhi wa ħablin mina an.nasi wa baːʔuː biʁˠaɮˠabin mina aɫːaːhi wa ɮˠuribat ʕalajhimu almaskanatu ðaːlika biʔanːahum kaːnuː jakfuruːna biʔaːjaːti aɫːaːhi wa jaɢˠtuluːna alʔanbijaːʔa biʁˠajri ħaɢˠːin ðaːlika bimaː ʕasˠaw wa kaːnuː jaʕtaduːna/



WeepingQuenya:

/p t s t͡ɬ k/ <p t s tl k>
/m͡b n͡d n͡z n͡ɮ ŋ͡g/ <b d z dl g>
/| ! ‖/ <c q x>
/ⁿ| ⁿ! ⁿ‖/ <nc nq nx> (If first consonant in cluster or alone)

/i e æ o u/ <y> <i e a o u>
/ɪ ɛ ɑ ɔ ʊ/ <i e a o u>

/æ˥ æ˧ æ˩/ <ar a ah>

Ytarqih qektlih ydlortkihs yxerzci.
/tæ˥!i˩ !ɛ˧kt͡ɬɪ˩ n͡ɮ˥otki˩s ‖e˥n͡zⁿ|i˧/
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Esmelthien wrote:WeepingQuenya:
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/ⁿ| ⁿ! ⁿ‖/ <nc nq nx> (If first consonant in cluster or alone)
They are never the first consonant in a cluster. That would be a click in a coda, which is inadmissible.
Ytarqih qektlih ydlortkihs yxerzci.
/tæ˥!i˩ !ɛ˧kt͡ɬɪ˩ n͡ɮ˥otki˩s ‖e˥n͡zⁿ|i˧/
Nice and quite logical.
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/p t s t͡ɬ k/ <p t s j k>
/m͡b n͡d n͡z n͡ɮ ŋ͡g/ <b d z l g>
/| ! ‖/ <c q x>
/ⁿ| ⁿ! ⁿ‖/ <r n v>

/i e æ o u/ <i e a o u>
/ɪ ɛ ɑ ɔ ʊ/ <i e a o u> + final <h> (inserte dbefore consonant if there is one)

/æ˥ æ˧ æ˩/ <á a à>

/tæ˥!i˩ !ɛ˧kt͡ɬɪ˩ n͡ɮ˥otki˩s ‖e˥n͡zⁿ|i˧/
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/p (b) t d ʈ ɖ k ɡ q ɢ/ p b t d ṭ ḍ k g ḳ ġ
/ʰs s ʰʂ ʂ/ hs s hṣ ṣ
ɦʋ j ɦj ɰ ɦɰ/ v ḥv y ḥy w ḥw
/ʝ ʝ: ɣ ɣ: ɦ/ j jj ɣ ɣɣ ḥ
/m̊ m m: n̊ n n: ɳ̊ ɳ ɳ:/ hm m mm hn n nn hṇ ṇ ṇṇ
/ɬ ɬ: ɮ ɮ:/ š šš ž žž
/r r: ɽ ɽ:/ r rr ṛ ṛṛ
/l l: ɭ ɭ:/ l ll ḷ ḷḷ

/i ɨ ɨ: ʉ ʉ: u/ i ï ḯ ü ǘ u
/ɛ œ ɜ ɜ: ɵ ɔ ɔ:/ e ö ẹ ẹ́ ọ o ó
/a ɒ/ a ạ

/ɜ̃/ ẹ̃
/ã ɒ̃/ ã ạ̃

/ɥ͡ø ɥ͡ɵ/ uö uọ
/ɒ͡a/ ạa

Example text:

Jạ vạrgraṇ wạ̃ jẹmm uöhvạno ṇüš wạrḳạra ɣumm poḥvạlẹ́jen kreljạ šühm uọḥyạidën ɣókühvajjã sạhṣạdëmm wvọdoṇ hmeḥvạḥën ġạžžaḳ vạrgẹ̃m wühsa wühsoḥven orëḳạnaṇa ṇïjit ḍaknạ yọkonạaduö.

/ʝɒ ʋɒrɡraɳ ɰɒ̃ ʝɜm: ɥ͡øɦʋɒnɔ ɳʉɬ ɰɒrqɒra ɣum: pɔɦʋɒlɜ:ʝɛn krɛlʝɒ ɬʉm̊ ɥ͡ɵɦjɒidɜn ɣɔ:kʉɦʋɒʝːã sɒʰʂɒdɜm: ɰʋɒdɔɳ m̊ɛɦʋɒɦɜn ɢɒɮ:aq ʋɒrɡɜ̃m ɰʉ:ʰsa ɰʉ:ʰsɔɦʋɛn ɔrɜqɒnaɳa ɳɨʝit ɖaknɒ jɵkɔnɒ͡adɥ͡ø/

(Looks like someone threw even more diacritics at Saami.)
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/p pʰ pˠ pˠʰ t tʰ tˠ tˠʰ c cʰ cˠ cˠʰ k kʰ kˠ kˠʰ q qʰ qˠ qˠʰ ʡ ʔ/
/p' p'ˠ t' t'ˠ c' c'ˠ k' k'ˠ q' q'ˠ/
/b bʱ bˠ d dʱ ˠ ɟ ɟʱ ɟˠ g gʱ gˠ ɢ ɢʱ ɢˠ/
/m n ɲ ŋ ɴ/
/ɸ ɸˠ f fˠ θ θˠ s sˠ ʃ ʃˠ ɕ ɕˠ ç çˠ x xˠ χ χˠ ħ ʜ h/
/β v ð z ʒ ʑ ʝ ɣ ʁ ʕ ʢ ɦ/
/ʋ ɹ j ɥ ɰ w/
/ʙ r ʀ/
/ɬ ɮ ʎ̥˔ ʟ̝̊ ʟ̝/
/l ʎ ʟ/

/i i: y y: ɨ ɨ: ʉ ʉ: ɯ ɯ: u u:/
/e e: ø ø: ɘ ɘ: ɵ ɵ: ɤ ɤ: o o:/
/ɛ ɛ: œ œ: ɜ ɜ: ɞ ɞ: ʌ ʌ: ɔ ɔ:/
/æ æ: a a: ɐ ɐ: ɑ ɑ: ɒ ɒ:/

All vowels can be nasal.

Any consonant cluster with two consonants is allowed. Clusters with more than two consonants are however not allowed.

/ɰɮy: ʙɐ:ɥãɢˠl ɯ:χʡɞʑbˠɤʀɹɒ̃:ɴɟ ʟfʌɮɬɨ ħɛ:. dʱœ:ʟ ɜwræ̃ɮq'ˠɒθ ɸˠɐðʋʌɬʎɔ: pø̃ c'ɯɢgʱɵɰp'ɛ̃:nd. χsɔʟ̝̊ɰʉ̃:rɨ̃ ɨc'ˠæ̃.

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