Romanization challenge thread

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/m n̠ ɳ/ <м н нъ>
/p t̪ ts̪ t̠ t̻ʃ ʈ k b d̪ dz̪ d̠ d̻ʒ ɖ ɡ/ <п т ц ԏ ч тъ к б д ѕ d җ дъ г>
/f θ s̪ ɬ̪ s̠ ʃ ʂ (ɬ̢) x ʒ ʐ (ɣ)/ <ф ç с ӆ ԍ ш шъ ӆъ х ж жъ ӷ>
/r̘ r̠ ɽ͡r/ <р ᶈ ръ>
/l̪ ɭ j w/ <л лъ й в>

/i y ɨ u/ <и ү ы у>
/e ɵ o/ <e ө o>
/ɑ/ <a>

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Yaali Annar's challenge

Stop: p t k q p t k q
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ m n ng nq
Fricative: f s x χ f s x h
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ nv nz nx nh
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ j w r
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ nj nw nr
High Vowel: i u i u
Low Vowel: a a

Sample:

/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a /

Was frajara rnv xinq hinr twanva inqinqnr nzja rm ngrawr fat nxwak kwap ram nqakrangi as twaj qup ra
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Annarese

Stop: p t k q p t k c
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ m n g q
Fricative: f s x χ v s x h
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ vn sn xn hn
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ ı u ə
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ ın un ən
High Vowel: i u e o
Low Vowel: a a

Uas vəaıaəa əvn xen heən tuavna eqeqenə znıa e əm gəauə vat xnuak kuap əam qakəage as tuaı cop əa.
/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a /

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Pushing the limits of font support here, but:

Stop: p t k q <p t k q>
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ <m n ŋ ꞑ>
Fricative: f s x χ <f s x h>
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ <v z g ᵹ>
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ <y w r>
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ <j μ ƍ>
High Vowel: i u <i u>
Low Vowel: a <a>

/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a /
Was frayara rv xiꞑ hiƍ twava iꞑiꞑinr zya i rm ŋrawr fat gwak kwap ram ꞑakraŋi as tway qup ra.

Or just mark uvularity on vowels. There's probably a better way to do this but

Stop: p t k q <p t k k>
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ <m n ng ng>
Fricative: f s x χ <f s h h>
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ <v z g g>
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ <y w r>
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ <nh mh ngh>
High Vowel: i u <i u>/<e o> before uvulars/<ie uo> between velars and uvulars/<ei ou> after uvulars and before non-uvulars
Low Vowel: a <a>/<ä> before velars
when a C is ambiguous between velar and uvular, it's velar unless followed by <ö>

/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a /
Was frayara rv xien xengh twava engengenr zya i rm ngrawr fat gwäk kwap ram ngöäkrangi as tway qoup ra.
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Russian:
/p pʲ b bʲ t tʲ d dʲ k kʲ g gʲ/
/ts tsʲ tɕ/
/f fʲ v vʲ s sʲ z zʲ ʂ ʐ ɕː~ʂtɕ ʑː~zʐ x xʲ/
/m mʲ n nʲ/
/r rʲ l lʲ j/
/a e o i (ɨ) u/
contrastive stress, final devoicing which you may or may not want to write, /e i/ and /a o/ merge in unstressed syllables

ˈslafʲsʲa oˈtʲet͡ɕestvo ˈnaʂe svoˈbodnoje
ˈdruʐbɨ naˈrodov naˈdʲoʐnɨj oˈplot
ˈpartʲija ˈlʲenʲina ˈsʲila naˈrodnaja
nas k‿torʐɨstˈvu komuˈnʲizma vʲeˈdʲot
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nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
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/p pʲ b bʲ t tʲ d dʲ k kʲ g gʲ/ <p p b b t t d d c c g g>
/ts tsʲ tɕ/ <ts ts gh>
/f fʲ v vʲ s sʲ z zʲ ʂ ʐ ɕː~ʂtɕ ʑː~zʐ x xʲ/ <f f bh bh s s sh sh th dh th dh ch ch>
/m mʲ n nʲ/ <m m n n>
/r rʲ l lʲ j/ <r r l l gh>

/a e o i (ɨ) u/
C_C <a aeo o aio ao u>
C_Cʲ <ai ae oi ue aoi ui>
Cʲ_C <ea eo io iu eao eu>
Cʲ_Cʲ <eai e eoi i ei iui>

Sláifsea oitéoghaistbho náthae sbhobódnoighe
Drúdhbao naródobh naidiódhnaoigh oplót
Pártighea Léniuna síula naródnaighea
Nas ctordhaostbhú comuiníushma bhediót!
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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Let's see

/p pʲ b bʲ t tʲ d dʲ k kʲ g gʲ/ <p p b b t t d d k k g g>
/ts tsʲ tɕ/ <ts ts tc>
/f fʲ v vʲ s sʲ z zʲ ʂ ʐ ɕː~ʂtɕ ʑː~zʐ x xʲ/ <f f v v s s z z sh zh c x h h>
/m mʲ n nʲ/ <m m n n>
/r rʲ l lʲ j/ <r r l l j>
/a e o i (ɨ) u/ <a e o i y u>

contrastive stress is marked with an acute accent, final devoicing is ignored in spelling, as is the /e i/ and /a o/ merger in unstressed syllables. Palatalisation is marked with an <i> following the (string of) consonant(s) that is palatalised (are there situations in which palatalisation is different in consonants in the same sequence?), unless an <i> follows, in which case palatalisation is marked with <j>.

ˈslafʲsʲa oˈtʲet͡ɕestvo ˈnaʂe svoˈbodnoje
ˈdruʐbɨ naˈrodov naˈdʲoʐnɨj oˈplot
ˈpartʲija ˈlʲenʲina ˈsʲila naˈrodnaja
nas k‿torʐɨstˈvu komuˈnʲizma vʲeˈdʲot

sláfsia otiétcestvo náshe svobódnoje
drúzhby naródov nadiózhnyj oplót
pártjia liénjina sjíla naródnaja
nas ktorzhystvú komunjízma viediót.

I don't speak Russian, but I get the impression the text has a bit of a political ring to it...
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Nortaneous wrote:/
Sláifsea oitéoghaistbho náthae sbhobódnoighe
Drúdhbao naródobh naidiódhnaoigh oplót
Pártighea Léniuna síula naródnaighea
Nas ctordhaostbhú comuiníushma bhediót!
That text doesn't look like Irish at all. Seriously
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Russian (in a vaguely Polish manner):

/p pʲ b bʲ t tʲ d dʲ k kʲ g gʲ/ <p pi b bi t ti d di k ki g gi>
/ts tsʲ tɕ/ <c ci~ć cz>
/f fʲ v vʲ s sʲ z zʲ ʂ ʐ ɕː~ʂtɕ ʑː~zʐ x xʲ/ <f fi w wi s si~ś z zi~ź sz ż szcz zż h hi>
/m mʲ n nʲ/ <m mi n ni~ń>
/r rʲ l lʲ j/ <r ri l li j>
/a e o i (ɨ) u/ <a e o i y u>
Ci > C' word-finally (or the acute diacritic in some cases)

ˈslafʲsʲa oˈtʲet͡ɕestvo ˈnaʂe svoˈbodnoje
ˈdruʐbɨ naˈrodov naˈdʲoʐnɨj oˈplot
ˈpartʲija ˈlʲenʲina ˈsʲila naˈrodnaja
nas k‿torʐɨstˈvu komuˈnʲizma vʲeˈdʲot

Slawsia otieczestwo nasze swobodnoje
drużby narodow nadiożnyj oplot
partija lienina sila narodnaja
nas ktorżystwu komunizma wiediot
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.

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Grunnen wrote:
Nortaneous wrote:Sláifsea oitéoghaistbho náthae sbhobódnoighe
Drúdhbao naródobh naidiódhnaoigh oplót
Pártighea Léniuna síula naródnaighea
Nas ctordhaostbhú comuiníushma bhediót!
That text doesn't look like Irish at all. Seriously
yes perhaps this is because it is slavic
Grunnen wrote:I don't speak Russian, but I get the impression the text has a bit of a political ring to it...
yes perhaps this is because it is the soviet anthem
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/p pʲ b bʲ t tʲ d dʲ k kʲ g gʲ/ <p pj b bj t ť d đ k kj g gj>
/ts tsʲ tɕ/ <c ć č>
/f fʲ v vʲ s sʲ z zʲ ʂ ʐ ɕː~ʂtɕ ʑː~zʐ x xʲ/ <f fj v vj s ś z ź š ž šč žž h hj>
/m mʲ n nʲ/ <m mj n ń>
/r rʲ l lʲ j/ <r ř ł l j>
/a e o i (ɨ) u/ <a e o i y u>

Slafsia otiečestvo naše svobodnoje
Družby narodov nađožnyj oplot
Partija Lenina siła narodnaja
Nas ktoržystvu komunizma vieđot!
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Russian:

/p pʲ b bʲ t tʲ d dʲ k kʲ g gʲ/ <p p b b t t d d k k g g>
/ts tsʲ tɕ/ <c c č>
/f fʲ v vʲ s sʲ z zʲ ʂ ʐ ɕː~ʂtɕ ʑː~zʐ x xʲ/ <f f v v s s z z š ž ś ź h h>
/m mʲ n nʲ/ <m m n n>
/r rʲ l lʲ j/ <r r l l j>
/a e o i (ɨ) u/ <a è o y u>, palatalizing previous consonants: <ja e jo i ju>

ˈslafʲsʲa oˈtʲet͡ɕestvo ˈnaʂe svoˈbodnoje
ˈdruʐbɨ naˈrodov naˈdʲoʐnɨj oˈplot
ˈpartʲija ˈlʲenʲina ˈsʲila naˈrodnaja
nas k‿torʐɨstˈvu komuˈnʲizma vʲeˈdʲot

Sláfsja, Otéčèstvo nášè svobódnoje,
drúžby naródov nadjóžnyj oplót!
Pártija Lénina — síla naródnaja
nas k toržystvú komunízma vedjót!


or with horrid combining diacritics:

/p pʲ b bʲ t tʲ d dʲ k kʲ g gʲ/ <p ṕ b b́ t ŧ d đ k ḱ g ǵ>
/ts tsʲ tɕ/ <c ć č>
/f fʲ v vʲ s sʲ z zʲ ʂ ʐ ɕː~ʂtɕ ʑː~zʐ x xʲ/ <f f́ v v́ s ś z ź š ž šč zž h h́>
/m mʲ n nʲ/ <m ḿ n ń>
/r rʲ l lʲ j/ <r ŕ l ļ j>
/a e o i (ɨ) u/ Stressed <á e o í (í) ú>, unstressed <a i a i (i) u>

Sláf́śa, Aŧečistva náši svabodnaji,
drúžbi narodaf nađožnij aplot!
Párŧija Ļeńina — śíla narodnaja
nas k taržistvú kamuńízma v́iđot!

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Russian (there's probably some chance of homographs here)
/p pʲ b bʲ t tʲ d dʲ k kʲ g gʲ/ <p p b b t t d d k k g g>
/ts tsʲ tɕ/ <ts ts ch>
/f fʲ v vʲ s sʲ z zʲ ʂ ʐ ɕː~ʂtɕ ʑː~zʐ x xʲ/ <f f v v s sh z j rs rz ść zrz kh kh>
/m mʲ n nʲ/ <m m n n>
/r rʲ l lʲ j/ <r r l l j>
/a e o i (ɨ) u/ <a e o i y u> palatalizing previous consonants <i ia ie io î iy iu>
contrastive stress, final devoicing which you may or may not want to write, /e i/ and /a o/ merge in unstressed syllables

ˈslafʲsʲa oˈtʲet͡ɕestvo ˈnaʂe svoˈbodnoje
ˈdruʐbɨ naˈrodov naˈdʲoʐnɨj oˈplot
ˈpartʲija ˈlʲenʲina ˈsʲila naˈrodnaja
nas k‿torʐɨstˈvu komuˈnʲizma vʲeˈdʲot

slafsia otiechestvo narse svobodnoie
drurzby narodov nadiorznyi oplot
partîia Lienîna sîla narodnaia
nas ktorrzystvu komunîzma viediot
[bɹ̠ˤʷɪs.təɫ]
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Yo te pongo en tu lugar...
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An attempt at following Belarusian Lacinka:

/p pʲ b bʲ t tʲ d dʲ k kʲ g gʲ/ <p pj b bj t tj d dj k kj g gj>
/ts tsʲ tɕ/ <c ć č>
/f fʲ v vʲ s sʲ z zʲ ʂ ʐ ɕː~ʂtɕ ʑː~zʐ x xʲ/ <f fj v vj s ś z ź š ž ść sź ch chj>
/m mʲ n nʲ/ <m mj n ń>
/r rʲ l lʲ j/ <r rj ł l j>
/a e o i (ɨ) u/ <a e o i y u>

Slavsia otiečestvo naše svobodnoje
Družby narodov nadiožnyj oplot
Partija Leńina siła narodnaja
Nas ktoržystvu komuńizma viediot!
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Middle Egyptian:

/m n/
/p t c k ʔ/
/b~β tʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/
/f s ʃ ç x ħ h/
/w (l) j ʕ/
/ɾ/
/a aː i iː u uː/

Sample text (without vowels):
/jɾjpʕt ħʔtjʕ xtmwbjtj jmjɾʔ kʼspɾ jtʼnw n jmjɾʔ xtmt sħtpjbɾʕ mʔʕxɾw cʼtʼf jɾnj kʼɾt mʕħʕt tn sʔxtj smnx sts ɾcʼjnj xtmt cʼbʔw n ħmwncɾ nw ʔbcʼw jw jɾnj sʔmɾf m sʃm ħwtnbw m sʃtʔ n nb ʔbcʼw jw xɾpnj kʔt m nʃmt msnj jns jɾnj hʔkɾ n nbf pɾt wpjwʔwt/

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Uzhdarchios wrote: Sample text (without vowels)
Don't mean to be glib, but how am I supposed to put in the vowels in a vowel-less text? :P

I guess I'll randomly add vowels in my text to fix that. (I don't know how to put vowel into M-Egyptian texts, so this isn't realistic)

Middle Egyptian:

/m n/ <m n>
/p t c k ʔ/ <p t c k q>
/b~β tʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <pp tt cc kk qq>
/f s ʃ ç x ħ h/ <ph s sh hy kh x h>
/w (l) j ʕ/ <w l y á>
/ɾ/ < r >
/a aː i iː u uː/ <a ā i ī u ū>

/jaɾajapʕit ħiʔtijuʕ xutumawuːbjitaj jamjiɾaʔ kʼuːspaɾ jutʼnaw na jamjiɾaʔ xutmut sħatapajubaɾaʕ maʔʕaxaɾiw cʼutʼuf juɾnja kʼiɾt maʕaħeʕat tuːn siːʔxatuj smanax sutas ɾicʼajanaj xutmut cʼibaʔwiː na ħamwuncaɾ nawiː ʔabcʼaw juwuː jaɾanja sʔamɾuf muː saʃum ħawatinbawaː ma suʃutaʔ na nub ʔabcʼaw juwuː xuɾpanja kuʔut ma niʃmat misnaj janas jaɾenaj huʔkuɾ na nabuf paɾat wipjawaʔwut/

yarayapáit xiqtiyuá khutumawūbyitay yamyiraq kkūspar juttnaw na yamyiraq khutmut sxatapajubaraá maqáakhariw ccuttuf yurnya kkirt maáaxeáat tūn sīqkhatuy smanakh sutas riccayanay khutmut ccibaqwī na xamwuncar nawī qabccaw yuwū yaranya sqamruf mū sashum xawatinbawā mz sushutaq na nub qabccaw yuwū khurpanya kuqut ma nishmat misnay yanas yarenay huqkur na nabuf parat wipyawaqwut
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Middle Egyptian:

/m n/ m n
/p t c k ʔ/ b d j g ʾ
/b~β tʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ v t c k q
/f s ʃ ç x ħ h/ f s ś ć x h͑ h͗
/w (l) j ʕ/ w l y ʿ
/ɾ/ r
/a aː i iː u uː/ a á i í u ú

Sample text (without vowels):
/jɾjpʕt ħʔtjʕ xtmwbjtj jmjɾʔ kʼspɾ jtʼnw n jmjɾʔ xtmt sħtpjbɾʕ mʔʕxɾw cʼtʼf jɾnj kʼɾt mʕħʕt tn sʔxtj smnx sts ɾcʼjnj xtmt cʼbʔw n ħmwncɾ nw ʔbcʼw jw jɾnj sʔmɾf m sʃm ħwtnbw m sʃtʔ n nb ʔbcʼw jw xɾpnj kʔt m nʃmt msnj jns jɾnj hʔkɾ n nbf pɾt wpjwʔwt/
yrybʿd h͑ʾdyʿ xdmwvydy ymyrʾ ksbr ytnw n ymyrʾ xdmd sh͑dbyvrʿ mʾʿxrw ctf yrny krd mʿh͑ʿd dn sʾxdy smnx sds rcyny xdmd cvʾw n h͑mwnjr nw ʾvcw yw yrny sʾmrf m sśm h͑wdnvw m sśdʾ n nv ʾvcw yw xrbny gʾd m nśmd msny yns yrny h͗ʾgr n nvf brd wbywʾwd

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Bristel wrote:Don't mean to be glib, but how am I supposed to put in the vowels in a vowel-less text? :P

I guess I'll randomly add vowels in my text to fix that. (I don't know how to put vowel into M-Egyptian texts, so this isn't realistic)
Many vowels in ME can't be reconstructed with much certainty, since the writing system only recorded consonants. Working back from Coptic and comparing transcriptions of Egyptian proper names into other languages yields some results, but a full reconstruction of the vowels in each word hasn't been done yet (and in many cases can't be done yet). So Egyptological literature usually just ignores the vowels entirely, and it's difficult to find any text that actually gives them. Hence I was forced to leave them out here, not having any sample text that tried to reconstruct them. (The text here is from the Sehetepibre Stela, but if anyone has some text with vowels inserted, feel free to replace it.)

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yeah no

Coptic:
/p t (d) tʲ (tʃ dʒ) k (g) kʲ ʔ/
/β f s (z) ʃ h/
/m n/
/l r j w/
/a ə ɛ ɔ e: o: i: u:/

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/p t (d) tʲ (tʃ dʒ) k (g) kʲ ʔ/ <p t d j tj dj k g c q>
/β f s (z) ʃ h/ <v f s z x h>
/m n/ <m n>
/l r j w/ <l r y w>
/a ə ɛ ɔ e: o: i: u:/ <â a e o ê ô i u>

pətʲɔɛis nakrinɛ ənnəlaɔs. a tɛfsoːnɛ dɛ ɔl ənnɛfkeːs.
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Coptic:
/p t (d) tʲ (tʃ dʒ) k (g) kʲ ʔ/ p t d ć ç dç k g c q
/β f s (z) ʃ h/ v f s z x h
/m n/ m n
/l r j w/ l r y w
/a ə ɛ ɔ e: o: i: u:/ á a e o é ó i u

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Middle Egyptian:

/m n/ <m n>
/p t c k ʔ/ <p t c k '>
/b~β tʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <b d j g q>
/f s ʃ ç x ħ h/ <f s š ś x ḣ h>
/w (l) j ʕ/ <w l y ġ>
/ɾ/ <r>
/a aː i iː u uː/ <a ā i ī u ū>

/jɾjpʕt ħʔtjʕ xtmwbjtj jmjɾʔ kʼspɾ jtʼnw n jmjɾʔ xtmt sħtpjbɾʕ mʔʕxɾw cʼtʼf jɾnj kʼɾt mʕħʕt tn sʔxtj smnx sts ɾcʼjnj xtmt cʼbʔw n ħmwncɾ nw ʔbcʼw jw jɾnj sʔmɾf m sʃm ħwtnbw m sʃtʔ n nb ʔbcʼw jw xɾpnj kʔt m nʃmt msnj jns jɾnj hʔkɾ n nbf pɾt wpjwʔwt/
Yrypġt ḣ'tyġ xtmwbyty ymyr' gspr ydnw n ymyr' xtmt sḣtpybrġ m'ġxrw jdf yrny grt mġḣġt tn s'xty smnx sts. Rjyny xtmt jb'w n ḣmwncr nw 'bjw. Yw yrny s'mrf m sšm ḣwtnbw m sšt' n nb 'bjw. Yw xrpny k't m nšmt msny yns. Yrny h'kr n nbf prt wpyw'wt.

Coptic:

/p t (d) tʲ (tʃ dʒ) k (g) kʲ ʔ/ <p t d ć č ģ k g c q>
/β f s (z) ʃ h/ <v f s z š h>
/m n/ <m n>
/l r j w/ <l r j w>
/a ə ɛ ɔ e: o: i: u:/ <ā a e o ē ō i u>

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Nortaneous wrote: (...)
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ <c cw tj ch chw>
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ <dz dzw dj dzh dzhw>
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ <c' cw' tj' ch' chw'>
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ <f s sw sl slw sj sh shw x xw xh xhw h hw>
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <v z zw zl zlw zj zh zhw gx gxw gh ghw>
(...)
[/b]
That's it! I'm gonna go for this <h>-marks-different-from-normal-POA romanization, but with <th dh etc.> for retroflex affricates and <y> for /ɣ/ and some other minor changes.
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(<i> = <j>)
Grunnen wrote:Start working on some mergers man!
Part of the fun of this conlang is its large consonant inventory (71). Ubykh had 84 consonants; and I'd say that even Abkhaz with "only" 58 is actually more complex than what I have - it has more contrasts. I just have more labialized consonants.
Thanks again!

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Nortaneous wrote:
Grunnen wrote:
Nortaneous wrote:Sláifsea oitéoghaistbho náthae sbhobódnoighe
Drúdhbao naródobh naidiódhnaoigh oplót
Pártighea Léniuna síula naródnaighea
Nas ctordhaostbhú comuiníushma bhediót!
That text doesn't look like Irish at all. Seriously
yes perhaps this is because it is slavic
Grunnen wrote:I don't speak Russian, but I get the impression the text has a bit of a political ring to it...
yes perhaps this is because it is the soviet anthem
Perhaps :p
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I'm looking for a better romanization for Sažir:

/m n ɳ ŋ/
/p t ʈ͡ʂ k q/
/b d ɖ͡ʐ g ɢ/
/ɸ θ s ʂ x/
/β ð z ʐ ɣ ʁ/
/l r ʀ/
/a e ɛ i (ɪ) o ɔ u (ʊ)/
/ai ou au/

Onsets: C, unvoiced plosive + s, plosive + rhotic
Rimes: V(C), Vlθ, Vrθ, Vʀθ, ou, au(C), ai(C) — V excludes diphthongs
Nasals assimilate to following consonants' POA. /a/ becomes [ɜ] word-finally, /r/ becomes [ɻ] by retroflex consonants, /ʁ/ becomes [χ] in unvoiced clusters. /ai ou au/ contrast with /a.i o.u a.u/. Stress is not contrastive.
/ɪ ʊ/ exist in some dialects, but are merged with /i u/ in others.

(Not a very interesting phonology, but then this was a very old conlang.)

Example text:
/no.θon ak ɔn.don.tor alθ ʀa.ma ŋur ʁe alθ ʀa.ma au.gir ɪk.ɛθ ot kai.ur kaθ ɢor.ɔr ot ʀa.mau brɪl.ɪl ʊ.ɳai.ur ʐar au.gir.ɪl a.na.tos a.rɛ.lur nɛʐ.qʀa.nɛθ ak.i ɣalθ a.rɪ.lur a.rɛ.lur ʀom ʁer.θam qʀa.θa.gor/

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