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Mie haizuo kuza ixi vas axu, to kkas o iku axu.
[mjé.haj.zwó.ku.záj.ʃí.ˈvá.sa.ʃú | tó.kʼːá.sój.kú.a.ʃú]
but if.IRR destroy ACC.3p.DEF.INAN.REL be.all be.seat thus be.not be.entity NOM.3p.NSPC.INAN.REL be.seat
But if you were to destroy all benches, benches would not exist.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific
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Ngai z lota ca thou o sapeu, saha, lota z neme coinsa ne sapeu.
[ˈŋɑʟ z̩ ʟoˈtɑ kɑ ˈtʰoː o sɑˈpɛʟ | sɑˈχɑ | ʟoˈtɑ z̩ nɛˈmɛ kõʟˈsɑ nɛ sɑˈpɛʟ]
ngai
golem
z
EX
lota
bench
ca
GEN
thou
knowledge
o
MENT
sapeu
remain
saha
thus
lota
bench
z
EX
neme
more
coin
sculpt
sa
here
ne
PHYS
sapeu
remain

People would still know of benches, and so more benches could be built.
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Adúljôžal ônal kol ví éža únah kex yaxlr gmlĥ hôga jô ônal kru ansu frú.
Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

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Bó hngàùwa gĕkŭ srŏ nò yŭ fi hngàùwa cr’ăma, q’e xe bó p’icó jí q’àì fe zéb gĕkúhwe ĕdŏ.
[póː ŋ̊ɔ̀ːwa kəkʰú ʂó nòː jú fi ŋ̊ɔ̀ːwa ʈʂ'áma | tɕ'e ɕe póː p'it̪s̪ʰóː tɕíː tɕ'ɛ̀ː fe t̪s̪ép̚ kəkʰúːʍe əd̪ó]
CNSTR/part seat ATTR/break stand CNSTR/evidence CNSTR/fact DEF.IN seat exist-PFV but NEG CNSTR/part SGV-thing ATTR/be.imaginary remain during CNSTR/event imagine-CESS 3SGV.IN

Pieces of a broken seat are evidence of the fact that the seat existed, but no pieces of an imaginary thing remain when it is no longer thought about.

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Tosazn, sa z nememeo o ha sapeu. Nae z neme than tai o shometto.
[toˈsɑ.z̩̃ | ˈsɑ z̩ nɛˈmɛ.mø o χɑ sɑˈpɛʟ ‖ ˈnɑː z̩ nɛˈmɛ ˈtʰɑ̃ tɑʟ o ʃoˈmɛ.t’o]
tosazn
but
sa
here
z
EX
nememeo
pieces
o
MENT
ha
LOC
sapeu
remain

nae
mind
z
EX
neme
many
than
easy
tai
NEG
o
MENT
shometto
forget

Yet, there are still pieces in the mind. The mind does not forget so easily.
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Adúljôžal ônal kol ví éža únah kex yaxlr gmlĥ hôga jô ônal kru ansu frú.
Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

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Rabo gbinhas, raso gbizdas.
When philosophers conjecture, templedancers play cherrystones.


(It means: 'when people blather on about useless things, the people around them can't focus on what they're meant to be doing'. Also: 'two people can't do different jobs in the same spot at one time', but I think here the meaning is closer to: 'geez, philosophers, finish already and let the dancers start'. Or more idiomatically: 'boo, get off the stage!' My informant is rather blunt...)

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Nyajó xé nasrofĕwíg tĕrà zrăhid hngàùwa. Modrabé bĕp’ég zé lyàì?
[ɲadʑóː ɕéː naʐovəwík̚ t̪ʰəɻàː ʈʂáhit̪̚ ŋ̊ɔ̀ːwa || moɖabéː pəp'ék̚ t̪s̪éː ʎɛ̀ː]
1S.AN=agree CNSTR/idea 1D.AN=PROG-consider excessively CNSTR/existence seat 2S.AN=POT-suggest maybe idea ATTR/be.new

I agree that we two are thinking too much about the existence of benches. Maybe you can suggest a new topic?

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Fas werandnes wyls du versprecen? Der hodde?
What do you want to argue the existence of? The gods'?

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Xe haidlotríd háí. Haidradágh ghŭ gĕwí háí.
[ɕe hɛɮoʈʰít̪̚ hɛ́ː || hɛɖad̪áq̚ qú kəwíː hɛ́ː]
NEG 1P.AN=IMP-argue 1P.AN 1P.AN=POT-talk.to merely ATTR/be.friendly 1P.AN

We don't have to argue with each other. We could simply talk to one another in a friendly manner.

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Y cnaie ny so wel de indlynen emid de luwe an de wil. Bys du claer?
I don't know very well the limits between affection and passion. Are you sure?

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Lasa ta Vira eia Naixa shajnita da viu taa datakaa i Ankava. I Antrazhia. (Rakashja Mazhika)
Only the Journey into Nyx will show you the way to the Gods of Old. Of Renown. (Magic Reference)
Talāṃ leya kalakena rāmah, saktalām peha leya bhūmena ca.
See a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower.
Omkāṃs tava sutvantayam pharo, 'naiṃ le' jeś ca.
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour.

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abaddamn wrote:Lasa ta Vira eia Naixa shajnita da viu taa datakaa i Ankava. I Antrazhia. (Rakashja Mazhika)
Only the Journey into Nyx will show you the way to the Gods of Old. Of Renown. (Magic Reference)
Xe nyatĕrĕ...
[ɕe ɲat̪ʰəɻé]
NEG 1S.AN=understand

I don't get it...

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Lie xuas ene ikka lumi.
ARG be.also DAT.1s.MUJA PRED-be.not be.intelligible.
I don't get it either.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific
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CatDoom wrote:Xe haidlotríd háí. Haidradágh ghŭ gĕwí háí.
[ɕe hɛɮoʈʰít̪̚ hɛ́ː || hɛɖad̪áq̚ qú kəwíː hɛ́ː]
NEG 1P.AN=IMP-argue 1P.AN 1P.AN=POT-talk.to merely ATTR/be.friendly 1P.AN

We don't have to argue with each other. We could simply talk to one another in a friendly manner.
Ngūqáreppj wōrmbbhííēmb qtrááŕbha kwaqhópja mbātēkjenguqh.
[ⁿguːqaˈɻ̝epʲː woːɻ̝bʰiˈːeːᵐb qtɻ̝aˈːbʰa kwaqʰoˈpʲa ᵐbaːteːkʲeⁿguqʰ]
time-DEF.PL-NOM travel-INFIN-DAT foreign.country.PL.DEF-LOC other-DEF.SG-ACC suggest-IMPERF-1S
My experiences concerning traveling in foreign countries suggest otherwise.

(Never really did sentences in Proto-Pasuu before, so I thought I try one out. The direct Pazmat reflex would be noyqōyeṣṣ wārbvūyīm qtraulva kwaḥāya mētīśeguḥ)
Nūdhrēmnāva naraśva, dṛk śraṣrāsit nūdhrēmanīṣṣ iźdatīyyīm woḥīm madhēyyaṣṣi.
satisfaction-DEF.SG-LOC live.PERFECTIVE-1P.INCL but work-DEF.SG-PRIV satisfaction-DEF.PL.NOM weakeness-DEF.PL-DAT only lead-FUT-3P

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Doc’ĕdĕrădĕdre bĕp’ég gè haidágh gĕwí nyĕnràì, q’e febĭ fi p’ĭ haibáú nyebré hmà.
[t̪ot̪s̪'əd̪əɻád̪əɖe pəp'ék̚ kèː hɛd̪áq̚ kəwíː ɲəɳɛ̀ː | tɕ'e febí fi p'í hɛbɔ́ː ɲebɻéː m̥àː]
3COL.IN=be.difficult-sometimes maybe CNSTR/job 1PL.AN=speak.to ATTR/be.friendly PL-foreigner but as DEF.IN manner 1PL.AN=find PL-friend ATTR/be.valueable

It may sometimes be difficult for us to speak with foreigners in a friendly manner, but in doing so we may find valuable friends.

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To kkue uo iji ha?
thus NEG.JUSS deliberately.kill ACC.3p.DEF.ANIM Q
So we shouldn't kill them then?
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific
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Dodĕnrusrŏ hmèg xé nyâ rrĕmĕhíd fe zéb nyahí cè hmo xe nyahnyé jĭ...
[t̪od̪əɳuʂó m̥èk̚ ɕéː ɲà rəməhít̚ fe t̪s̪ép̚ ɲahíː t̪s̪ʰèː m̥o ɕe ɲaɲ̊éː tɕí]
3COL.IN=rarely-stand first CNSTR/idea 1S.AN murder during CNSTR/event 1S.AN=meet person REL.AN NEG 1S.AN=know 3S.AN

Murder is rarely the first thing that occurs to me when I meet an unfamiliar person...

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Krichrah kalai mava mase suda he lairaṃ Tony-Abatam viranuram. Vrichro ra.
pain.SBJ thing-only.SBJ my mind.INESS was.3sg when 1st-time.ACC Tony Abbott.ACC saw. Because gut reaction
Pain was the only thing on my mind when I first saw Tony Abbott. Because gut reaction.
Talāṃ leya kalakena rāmah, saktalām peha leya bhūmena ca.
See a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower.
Omkāṃs tava sutvantayam pharo, 'naiṃ le' jeś ca.
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour.

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Ahe. Bas ahe. Hunie ju.
be.indeed | be.very be.indeed | preemptively.kill‹GDV› NOM.3s.DEF.ANIM
Yes. Very much yes. He needs to be killed for our safety.

Hi ASIO. ^ The above is in character. I do not advocate assassination. I am strongly advocating a double dissolution.
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Xe nyahnyé Tóni Ábad. Hráú jĭ?
[ɕe ɲaɲ̊éː t̪ʰóːni áːbat̪ || r̥ɔ́ː tɕí]
NEG 1S.AN=know Tony Abbott be.who 2S.AN

I'm not familiar with Tony Abbott. Who is he?

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hugyrı Asraĺa cyńyĺ. toruɟuslysl nunisonı*, ısa se txycśa sası nunisotsa ślıslı ugı.
[hʌŋɯri: (a)sraʎa: cɯɲɯ:ʎ | təɹʌjʌɬɯ:ɬ nʌni̥səni: isa: se: txɯcɕa: sasi: nʌnisətsa: ʎ̝iɬi: (ʌ)ŋi:]
elder-PAT Australia-GEN 3PP.PAT-be-PRS | 3PP.AGN-NEG-cause.to.like.oneself-PRS creature-PL-PAT too.much because 3PP.AGN-cause.to.collapse-PF this-COL.PAT creature-PL-DAT water-COL.PAT food-COL.PAT
He's the current leader of Australia. Not many people like him because he collapsed too many funds for the people.

śoksyřa se aɟ sasını resnoslan "coquřahaw Tunı Akotı" nasėtlonı.
[ɕəksɯʀa: se: aj sasini: resnəɬa:n cəqʌʀahaɰ tʌni: akəti: nase̥tɬəni:]
1PP.AGN-see-PF and still this-PL-PAT 3PP.PL-say.IMPF 3PP.PAT-rape-DNT.IMPF Tony-PAT Abbott-PAT picture-PL-PAT
I often still see signs that say "Fuck Tony Abbott".

*The Hycsoni are very different beings from humans (though still Earthly), so humans are simply collected under the tag of non-Qusratsi: the Nunison.
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Imo hu yi sehisku?
No one comes (speaks) here anymore?
Non omne id quod fulget aurum est.

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Imralu wrote:To kkue uo iji ha?
thus NEG.JUSS deliberately.kill ACC.3p.DEF.ANIM Q
So we shouldn't kill them then?
Sétháwokam tésé láotlotlamwokam lákanellálo7í khétotla séwane ephákhá7ó tsá tísékhá7ó wesalló7ú tla


{NC3}-make-{EVID8}-{ERG3sg} when {pl.NC1}-meet-{EVID8}-{ERG3pl} {pl}-strangers-{ERGpl} allowance.ABS {NC3}great.ABS custom-{CONS} and training-{CONS} difference-{CONS} for

When strangers meet, great allowances should be made for differences of custom and training.
A New Yorker wrote:Isn't it sort of a relief to talk about the English Premier League instead of the sad state of publishing?
Abi wrote:At this point it seems pretty apparent that PIE was simply an ancient esperanto gone awry.
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Do... na omke nhe uh noso m?
but... if they we eat want (interr.)

And what if they want to eat us?
Non omne id quod fulget aurum est.

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Pham nó láoékúmpeltshé tawolaŋ.
then oh {pl}-{NC1}-eat.meat/celebrate-{EVID3.taste}-{ERG.2sg} first-{ADV.manner}
Then you eat them first
A New Yorker wrote:Isn't it sort of a relief to talk about the English Premier League instead of the sad state of publishing?
Abi wrote:At this point it seems pretty apparent that PIE was simply an ancient esperanto gone awry.
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Yihi diwi sehisku...
Bad flavor say

It is said it tastes bad...
Non omne id quod fulget aurum est.

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