Guess the Language, anyone?

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R.Rusanov wrote:Eeeea it's bulgarian

Nort wins
that is just stupid, I could go and put any language into script X and let people guess forever. is this script actually used anywhere at all?

next time I'll take a random Amazonian language and give it in Armenian script ...

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opipik wrote:
Tetwaap tanhmpa tawaam washnañ tabhtat. Waght tetwaap tawaam. Tetwaap imo thmañ ku fi fepmhñgaam. Fi fepmaañkoñka thka kaadhp dhniyapmañgaam. Kaadhp dhniyapmañada fhñhlh mofaaleleka fañaakhñka bot bemaañkoñgaam. Bemaañkoñka bañaakñhda go dhka mulin tañ sasak kaadhp tamek fepmhñka bewaam wa. Mulin tamaañkoñ bhge ku wolhka semaañkoñka bhge khlhñkhlhñ ban tawaam.
Is it spoken in South America?
a mainland south east Asian language ?

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neither
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
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spoken in some Asian islands?

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opipik wrote:spoken in some Asian islands?
What asian islands, anything from japan to Timor?
This is a bit broad innit

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Less broad than asking by entire continent, which people routinely do in this thread...
I generally forget to say, so if it's relevant and I don't mention it--I'm from Southern Michigan and speak Inland North American English. Yes, I have the Northern Cities Vowel Shift; no, I don't have the cot-caught merger; and it is called pop.

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alynnidalar wrote:Less broad than asking by entire continent, which people routinely do in this thread...
'Asian islands' aren't a language area (I see little correspondence between andamanese, ainu and tagalog). In contrast, 'south america' is definitely a language area. Just look at the many unrelated Amazonian languages that do have a lot of features in common with each other.

If you would ask south-east-asian islands then yes that is a language area.

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sirdanilot wrote:
alynnidalar wrote:Less broad than asking by entire continent, which people routinely do in this thread...
'Asian islands' aren't a language area (I see little correspondence between andamanese, ainu and tagalog). In contrast, 'south america' is definitely a language area. Just look at the many unrelated Amazonian languages that do have a lot of features in common with each other.

If you would ask south-east-asian islands then yes that is a language area.
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I don't think Sprachbund and language area are synonyms. I prefer the latter anyway as it's more vague. Let's loosely define it as 'a larger area in which the languages, even when unrelated, somewhat resemble each other in some aspects, especially in those aspects that are uncommon in languages outside the area'.

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Is it spoken on mainland Asia?

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It is not spoken on mainland Asia.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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hwhatting wrote:
R.Rusanov wrote:Eeeea it's bulgarian
Where is that orthography used (you said it's niche, but can you give more details)?
And how would that sentence look in Cyrillic? ë is ъ?
naştë së e nëpiwë, pëk unëz oştë poeçe.
Нашата се е напила, пък онази още повече.
Our girl got drunk, but that one got even drunker.

as to where it's used, well, in Albania chiefly
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Is it Indo-European?

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I think a native north-american language (not Salishan).

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No and no.
naştë së e nëpiwë, pëk unëz oştë poeçe.
Нашата се е напила, пък онази още повече.
/naʃata se e napila, pək onazi oʃte povetʃe/
Dialect, or?
edit: right, vowel reduction
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nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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Is it spoken in Asia?

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Is it spoken on the island of New Guinea?

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It is spoken on the island of New Guinea. Is New Guinea considered part of Asia? I don't know. And Wikipedia at least used to say that Kazakhstan is in Europe, so I don't trust it, so finding out would take more than thirty seconds.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
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Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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What vowel is "h"? Is this the official orthography?
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It's the first version of the orthography I found. It is a version of an official orthography, designed by a linguist who wrote a lot of papers about the language. I don't know if it's the most recent revision or if it's used in practice or any of that.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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R.Rusanov wrote:naştë së e nëpiwë, pëk unëz oştë poeçe.
Нашата се е напила, пък онази още повече.
Our girl got drunk, but that one got even drunker.

as to where it's used, well, in Albania chiefly
OK, thanks!

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Arapesh?

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no
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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I think it's only about 7% of Kazakh territory that's west of the Urals so that's how manages to count as Europe.

Is it spoken in Irian Jaya?

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jmcd wrote:I think it's only about 7% of Kazakh territory that's west of the Urals so that's how manages to count as Europe.
Depends on who you ask. When it comes to sports, it's in Europe (UEFA) for football, but for many other sports and competitions it's a member of the Asian associations.

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