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Re: Cheese that smells

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Confusing BBC Headline of the Day:
Pietersen 326 sends England message

Stared at that one a couple of moments before it hit me.
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Salmoneus wrote:Confusing BBC Headline of the Day:
Pietersen 326 sends England message
Is it common to leave out the genitive 's in headlines?


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Re: Cheese that smells

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jal wrote:
Salmoneus wrote:Confusing BBC Headline of the Day:
Pietersen 326 sends England message
Is it common to leave out the genitive 's in headlines?


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Not uncommon, but I was also struggling at first to read '326' as a noun ('pietersen 326? how many pietersens are there!?'), and I was initially trying to read 'England' as the first element in a compound, rather than as a recipient in its own right.

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Re: Cheese that smells

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Salmoneus wrote:Confusing BBC Headline of the Day:
Pietersen 326 sends England message

Stared at that one a couple of moments before it hit me.
I still don't know what Pietersen 326 is. I do understand, though, that England is the recipient of the message here.

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sirdanilot wrote:I still don't know what Pietersen 326 is. I do understand, though, that England is the recipient of the message here.
That's because you lack the natural curiosity that has advanced human kind. Blame it on your upbringing ;).


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jal wrote:
sirdanilot wrote:I still don't know what Pietersen 326 is. I do understand, though, that England is the recipient of the message here.
That's because you lack the natural curiosity that has advanced human kind. Blame it on your upbringing ;).


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Oh for... do we need to ban both of you guys? Because that's going to happen if you don't grow up. And no, "he staaaarted iiiiit!" is not an adequate excuse.
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Salmoneus wrote:Because that's going to happen if you don't grow up. And no, "he staaaarted iiiiit!" is not an adequate excuse.
To quote my Dad, "He may've started it, but I'm gonna finish it!"

Back on topic: Courtesy of Language Log, CT High School Slut Shames Students Over "Inappropriate" Prom Dresses.

I'm so used to "slut shame" as a verbal compound that it never occurred to me this would have a different interpretation for some speakers.

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oh cmon it's a joke

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sirdanilot wrote:oh cmon it's a joke
I'd almost fall of my chair, but I'd have to agree with sirdanilot here. Mild gests should be allowed, no?


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It's not a "mild jest" when you target the same person in five different threads at the same time. It's bullying.
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Salmoneus wrote:It's not a "mild jest" when you target the same person in five different threads at the same time. It's bullying.
Mmmm, I doubt whether it's "five different threads", but I'll contain my effort to the E thread from now on.


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Well ideally you could stop being pointlessly unpleasant in every thread, but I guess I may have to take what I can get.
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Salmoneus wrote:Well ideally you could stop being pointlessly unpleasant in every thread, but I guess I may have to take what I can get.
Well, I call bullshit on that (I don't think I've been "pointlessly unpleasant" in the "Help your (conlang) fluency" threads, for example), but hey, whatever. I'll behave.


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jal wrote:
Salmoneus wrote:Well ideally you could stop being pointlessly unpleasant in every thread, but I guess I may have to take what I can get.
Well, I call bullshit on that (I don't think I've been "pointlessly unpleasant" in the "Help your (conlang) fluency" threads, for example), but hey, whatever. I'll behave.
By some minor miracle, we seemed to have circled back on topic.

I also originally read Sal's statement as: "You are pointlessly unpleasant in every thread. Ideally you could stop this." But upon rereading I realised the actual thrust was, "Rather than restricting your pointless unpleasantness to a single thread, ideally you could put an end to it everywhere."

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The reason that I replied with a joke was that he does that thing you call 'bullying' (I wouldn't seriously call it that as it puts me in the position of 'whiner', and I am not a whiner) in almost every thread where we encounter each other, so instead of reacting to it seriously I simply posted a joke.

That said, a vent: my eyesight is playing up again and I am back on medication... :/

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sirdanilot wrote:That said, a vent: my eyesight is playing up again and I am back on medication... :/
What thread do you think this is?

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My venting thread now?

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Feel free to think that. It will probably, however, result in being banned.
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Salmoneus wrote:Feel free to think that. It will probably, however, result in being banned.
What rule am I breaking then? I am following moderator guideliens in that I no longer post in the venting thread. I tried to combine my vents in my own personal thread, but this was removed. So what else can I possibly do?

You are not giving me many options here. You are victimizing and bullying me. I find it appaling behaviour for a moderator. You are essentially punishing me for following your rules.

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sirdanilot wrote:
Salmoneus wrote:Feel free to think that. It will probably, however, result in being banned.
What rule am I breaking then? I am following moderator guideliens in that I no longer post in the venting thread. I tried to combine my vents in my own personal thread, but this was removed. So what else can I possibly do?
Do what I instructed you to do in the PM I sent you: vent somewhere else. And that is where this conversation should be taking place, not in whichever thread you decide to spam next. All that will result in is being banned from those threads as well (and, ultimately, this Board), as you now are from this one. What on earth makes you think that a guerrilla war against the mods is something you can win?

ETA: sirdanilot, I just sent you another PM which should answer your questions (although not with what you wanted to hear). Read it and, if you feel you need to respond, do it by PM. And further posts by you to this thread will be deleted.

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linguoboy wrote:But upon rereading I realised the actual thrust was, "Rather than restricting your pointless unpleasantness to a single thread, ideally you could put an end to it everywhere."
Ah, I see, yeah I think I agree with you on that reading.


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House that Jane Austen hero Mr Darcy is on sale for £8million (Daily Mail, online preview only)

I guess they just out an important word?

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I this is likely

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linguoboy wrote:House that Jane Austen hero Mr Darcy is on sale for £8million (Daily Mail, online preview only)
I guess they just out an important word?
I guess sloppy editing. Too long "House that (...) Mr Darcy lived in / owned is on sale (...)" changed to "House of (...) Mr Darcy is on sale", but somehow only the latter was changed.


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