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Zao /ɖ͡ʐao/

/p b ɓ bβ t d ɗ dʐ ʧ ʤ ʄ k ɡ ɠ ʔ/ <p b bb v t d dd z c j jj k g gg x>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ñ ŋ>
/(f) s h/ <f s h>
/(w) l r (j) ʕ/ <w l r ŷ ĝ>

/i e ə a o u/ <i e y a o u>
/iː eː əː aː oː uː/ <ii ee yy aa oo uu>

/dʐu uru təka, abβu mema le Liː Holo-Nori Ama Lamatua. Liː Holo-Nori Ama Lamatua neʔe, nuka Dʐəu əʧi. Dʐəu neʔe berabera dəŋe Ama Lamatua. ʕaː Nəŋu ne, Ama Lamatua kahəi. loɗo liru dəŋe raihaha dʐae ʄaʄi məka, Dʐəu neʔe abβu mema le samasama dəŋe Ama Lamatua. Lamatua paʄaʄi aːʔi məuməu, pake Liː Holo-Nori Nəŋu neʔe ka./
Zu uru tyka, avu mema le lii holo-nori ama lamatua. Lii holo-nori ama lamatua nexe, nuka zyu yci. Zyu nexe berabera dyŋe ama lamatua. Ĝaa nyŋu ne, ama lamatua kahyi. Loddo liru dyŋe raihaha zae jjajji myka, zyu nexe avu mema le samasama dyŋe ama lamatua. Lamatua pajjajji aaxi myumyu, pake lii holo-nori nyŋu nexe ka.
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Rạo /ɖ͡ʐao/

/p b ɓ bβ t d ɗ dʐ ʧ ʤ ʄ k ɡ ɠ ʔ/ <p b ḅ v t d ḍ r c z ẓ k g ḳ 0/q>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ñ ṃ>
/(f) s h/ <f s ḥ>
/(w) l r (j) ʕ/ <w l ṛ y j>

/i e ə a o u/ <i e a 0/ạ o u>
/iː eː əː aː oː uː/ <ih eh h ah oh uh>

Ru uṛu tak, ạvu mem le Lih Ḥolo-Nori Ạm Lmtuạ. Lih Ḥolo-Nori Ạm Lmtuạ nee, nuk Rau aci. Rau nee beṛbeṛ daṃe Ạm Lmtuạ. Jh Neṃu ne, Ạm Lmtuạ kḥai. Loḍo liru daṃe ṛạiḥḥ rạe ẓẓi mak, Rạu nee ạvu mem le smsm daṃe Ạm Lmtuạ. Lmtuạ pẓẓi hqi maumau, pke Lih Ḥolo-Nori Naṃu nee k.
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ˈkorːd̥, kui ˈpəhi̯ɑtuːːl i̯ɑ ˈpæikːe ˈpɑrɑi̯ɑsːti ˈvɑid̥lesid̥ ˈselːe ˈyle, kumːb̥ neist on ˈtug̥evɑm, ˈtuli møːːd̥ɑ teːːd̥ ˈrænːd̥ɑi̯ɑ, ˈmæsːitːud̥ ˈsoːːi̯ɑ ˈmɑntːlisːːe. nɑd̥ ˈlepːːisid̥ ˈkokːːu, et seːː, kes ˈesimˌesenɑ ˈsunʲːib̥ ˈrænːd̥ɑi̯ɑt ˈmɑntːli ˈmɑhɑ ˈvətːmɑ, on ˈteisest ˈtugevɑm. siːːs ˈpuhus ˈpəhi̯ɑtuːːl ˈkəgest i̯əust, kuid̥ ˈmid̥ɑ ˈenɑm tɑ ˈpuhus, ˈsedɑ ˈkoːː mɑle ˈtəmːb̥ɑs ˈrænːd̥ɑi̯ɑ omɑ ˈmɑntːli ˈhəlmɑd̥. ləpuks loː ː b̯s ˈpəhi̯ɑtuː ːl ˈkɑtːsest. siːːs ˈhɑkːːɑs ˈpæikːe ˈniːː ˈsoːi̯ɑlt ˈpɑistːmɑ, et ˈrænːd̥ɑi̯ɑ ˈvətʲːːis ˈotseˌkohe ˈmɑntːli ˈseli̯ɑst. i̯ɑ ˈniːː ˈpid̥i ˈpəhi̯ɑtuːːl ˈtunʲːistˌtɑmɑ, et ˈpæikːe on ˈtemɑst ˈtugevɑm.

Korrt, kui pyhjatuuul ja päikke parajassti vaitlesit selle üle, kummp neist on tukevam, tuli möööta teeet ränntaja, mässittut soooja manttlissse. Nat lepppisit kokkku, et seee, kes esimesena sunnip ränntajat manttli maha vyttma, on teisest tukevam. Siiis puhus pyhjatuuul kygest jyust, kuit mita enam ta puhus, seda kooo male tymmpas ränntaja oma manttli hylmat. Lypuks looops pyhjatuuul kattsest. Siiis hakkkas päikke niii soojalt paisttma, et ränntaja vytttis otsekohe manttli seljast. Ja niii piti pyhjatuuul tunnisttama, et päikke on temast tukevam.
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fegiq lees stoxq rreyring ingglish fn'eerikliy

[p b t̪ d̪ t d tʃ dʒ k g ʔ] <p b tt dd t d c j k g q>
[f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ ç h] <f v ss zz s z ch jh yh h>
[m n̪ n ŋ] <m nn n ng>
[ɫ̪ ɫ ɾ ɹ j w] <ll l r rr y w>
[æ a ɑ ɛ ʌ ɔ o ɪ ɚ ʊ] <ae aa a ee e o oo i x u>
[ɛi ʌi oi æə eə ʌu ɪi ʏu æɹ aɹ ɒɹ eɹ oɹ iɹ] <eey ey uy ae ea ew iy iw aex aax ox eex ux ix>
haaeyres iz reeprezenhri wid n epastrrxfiy
fn'ee:kliy neeyzl'aazd vaelz x riqn <Vnh>
long vaelz erraazing frrxm elijhn e zze flaep x zze vuyst denl plewsiv x siykwinsiz ev e vael n e chwa x rriqn wi koolenz

xz new penkchuweeychn kez ze aadiyez fx zzis te biy hoxd te riyd aam crraanhre prruwv e puynhr ebaeq waa ingglich idn rriqn fn'ee:kliy

aa :saa:d te mxj zze vael in nne wxd kaeq n zze vael in nne wxd vael kez ze wen linggwist aa new in rriyel laaf ssingks aa mxj em n aaonhq ssingk aa duw ber aa :suwm aeqsaarxz keanq tell lle difxnts iyzl'iy

aam naq ntaaxliy chx ebaeq zze fn'ee:k aekyxesiy ev eeniy e zziyz teks aes n'ezzx rriyzn ingglich idn rriqn fn'ee:kliy prrxzuwmebliy aa ore rekuxd maaseelf riydn oll llis beq aes tuw mec wxk
aanhenhnew yol aa hewp is rreyq

seampl teekst:

nn nnuxss wind nn nne sen wx rispyuwring wic wez ze scrrongx ween e crraevl'x keeym l'ong raept in e worm klewk zzeey egrriydd dditt dde wen huw fxs seksi:yr in meeyknn nne crraevl'x teyk iz klewk of chu biy knsi:xd scrronggx nn nniy ezzx zzeenn nne nuxss wind bluw iz hoxr iz iy kud bett dde mux iy bluw zze mux klewsliy didd dde crraevl'x foold iz klewk xrraend im n iq laestt nn nnuxss wind geyv ep zziy eteempt zzeenn nne sen chaand aeq woxmliy n m'iyriyiqliy zze crraevl'x tuk of iz klewk n sew dd nnuxss wind wez eblaaj te knfees sitt dde sen wez ze scrronggx e zze tuw
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/p t k ʔ/ <p t k q>
/θ ʂ ħ/ <s S h>
/β ð/ <v z>
/m n ŋ/ <m n N>
/l r/ <l R>
/j w/ <y w>

/i/ <i>
/ø ə o/ <O e o>
/æ a/ <A a>

/iː/ <ir>
/øː əː oː/ <Or er or>
/æː aː/ <Ar ar>

/kakħæjðæʔæn alno roħænæn rimaʔ kalaʔ watan tæwʔæn. paparaj raːan ʂøʔiʔan; jao maħiəw noka raromæħ pinaħiəw. raj koːkoːol okaʔ ka maʔijæħ jao nonak jao okik tikot. jao βaðæʔ pinajakaiʔ ni jaβaʔ komoʂaʔ ħajðæħ ka ʂaħβøj./

kakhAyzAqAn alno RohAnAn rimaq kalaq watan tAwqAn. papaRay Raran SOqiqan, yao mahiew noka RaRomAh pinahiew. Ray korkorol okaq ka maqiyAh yao okik tikot. yao vazAq pinayakaiq ni yavaq komoSaq hayzAh ka SahvOy.

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<p t k ʔ>
<þ s h>
<v ð>
<m n ŋ>
<l r>
<j w> in onsets, <i u> in codas.

<i>
<ö e o>
<á a>

<i'>
<ö' e' o'>
<á' a'>

Kakháiðáʔán alno rohánán rimaʔ kalaʔ watan táuʔán. Paparai ra'an söʔiʔan; jao mahieu noka raromáh pinahieu. Rai ko'ko'ol okaʔ ka maʔijáh jao nonak jao okik tikot. Jao vaðáʔ pinajaka"iʔ ni javaʔ komosaʔ haiðáh ka sahvöi.

agefaqeg-style:
<p t k>
<þ s h>
<v ð>
<m n ŋ>
<l r>
<r̀ w> in onsets, <i u> in codas.

<i>
<ö ĕ o>
<è a>

<ii>
<öö ĕĕ oo>
<è a>

kakhèiðèèn alno r̀ohènèn r̀ima kala watan tèuèn, papar̀ai r̀aaan söian, rao mahiĕu noka r̀ar̀omèh pinahiĕu, r̀ai kookoool oka ka mairèh rao nonak rao okik tikot, rao vaðè pinarakai ni rava komosa haiðèh ka sahvöi,
ìtsanso, God In The Mountain, may our names inspire the deepest feelings of fear in urkos and all his ilk, for we have saved another man from his lies! I welcome back to the feast hall kal, who will never gamble again! May the eleven gods bless him!
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/p t k ʔ/ <p t k ʼ>
/θ ʂ ħ/ <s ṣ h>
/β ð/ <ḇ đ>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ŋ>
/l r/ <l r>
/j w/ <j w>

/i/ <i>
/ø ə o/ <ø ɨ o>
/æ a/ <e a>

/iː/ <í>
/øː əː oː/ <ǿ ɨ́ ó>
/æː aː/ <é á>

/kakħæjðæʔæn alno roħænæn rimaʔ kalaʔ watan tæwʔæn. paparaj ra:an ʂøʔiʔan; jao maħiəw noka raromæħ pinaħiəw. raj ko:ko:ol okaʔ ka maʔijæħ jao nonak jao okik tikot. jao βaðæʔ pinajakaiʔ ni jaβaʔ komoʂaʔ ħajðæħ ka ʂaħβøj./

Kakhejđeʼen alno rohenen rimaʼ kalaʼ watan tewʼen. Paparay ráan ṣøʼiʼan; jao mahiɨw noka raromeh pinahiɨw. Raj kókóol okaʼ ka maʼijeh jao nonak jao okik tikot. Jao ḇađeʼ pinajakaiʼ ni javaʼ komoṣaʼ hajđeh ka ṣahḇøj.

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/p t k ʔ/ <p t k ch>
/θ ʂ ħ/ <s sch g>
/β ð/ <b d>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/l r/ <l r>
/j w/ <y w>

/i/ <i>
/ø ə o/ <ö e o>
/æ a/ <ä a>

/iː/ <ih>
/øː əː oː/ <öh eh oh>
/æː aː/ <äh ah>

/kakħæjðæʔæn alno roħænæn rimaʔ kalaʔ watan tæwʔæn. paparaj ra:an ʂøʔiʔan; jao maħiəw noka raromæħ pinaħiəw. raj ko:ko:ol okaʔ ka maʔijæħ jao nonak jao okik tikot. jao βaðæʔ pinajakaiʔ ni jaβaʔ komoʂaʔ ħajðæħ ka ʂaħβøj./

Kakgäydächän alno rogänän rimach kalach watan täwchän. Paparay rahan schöchichan; yao magiew noka raromäg pinagiew. Ray kohkohol okach ka machiyäg yao nonak yao okik tikot. Yao badäch pinayakaich ni yabach komoschach gaydäg ka schagböy.

/p t k ʔ/ <p t k x>
/θ ʂ ħ/ <s z g>
/β ð/ <b d>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/l r/ <l r>
/j w/ <y w>

/i/ <i>
/ø ə o/ <u e o>
/æ a/ <ä a>

/iː/ <ih>
/øː əː oː/ <uh eh oh>
/æː aː/ <äh ah>

Kakgäydäxän alno rogänän rimax kalax watan täwxän. Paparay rahan zuxixan; yao magiew noka raromäg pinagiew. Ray kohkohol okax ka maxiyäg yao nonak yao okik tikot. Yao badäx pinayakaix ni yabax komozax gaydäg ka zagbuy.
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/p t k ʔ/ <p t k x>
/θ ʂ ħ/ <z s h>
/β ð/ <v d>
/m n ŋ/ <m n g>
/l r/ <l r>
/j w/ <y w>

/i/ <i>
/ø ə o/ <ö ë o>
/æ a/ <e a>

/iː/ <ii>
/øː əː oː/ <öö ëë oo>
/æː aː/ <ee aa>
Vowel hiatus split by '

/kakħæjðæʔæn alno roħænæn rimaʔ kalaʔ watan tæwʔæn. paparaj raːan ʂøʔiʔan; jao maħiəw noka raromæħ pinaħiəw. raj koːkoːol okaʔ ka maʔijæħ jao nonak jao okik tikot. jao βaðæʔ pinajakaiʔ ni jaβaʔ komoʂaʔ ħajðæħ ka ʂaħβøj./
Kakheydexen alno rohenen rimax kalax watan tewxen. Paparay raa'an söxixan; yao mahiëw noka raromeh pinahiëw. Ray kookoo'ol okax ka maxiyeh yao nonak yao okik tikot. yao vadex pinayakaix ni yavax komosax haydeh ka sahvöy.
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Xârâcùù

/p pʷ ᵐb ᵐbʷ t ⁿd ʧ ᶮɟ k kʷ ᵑɡ ᵑɡʷ/
/m mʷ n ɲ ŋ/
/r/
/f v ʃ ç x xʷ/
/w l j/

/i ĩ e ɛ ɛ̃ ɑ ɑ̃ ɔ ɔ̃ o u ũ ɨ ɨ̃ ɤ ʌ ʌ̃/
/iː ĩː eː ɛː ɛ̃ː ɑː ɑ̃ː ɔː ɔ̃ː oː uː ũː ɨː ɨ̃ː ɤː ʌː ʌ̃ː/

/ⁿdɔumɛ nɑ̃ ʃe tɛpɤ wɑ̃ wɛɑ ᵐbɨ mɛ̃ wɛɑ xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ || ⁿdɔuçɑɨnɑ nʌ̃ wɛɑ ᵐbɨ nʌ̃ çɑɨ ᶮɟɛ ᶮɟɛ mɛ rɛ ⁿdɑ mɛ̃ nʌ̃ || ʃɑː pʷɛ̃ xuː kʷiɛ wɑ̃ nʌ̃ xʷɑ rɛ || nʌ̃ ɛ wɑ̃mɛ̃ tɛ̃ĩ | ɛ wɑ̃mɛ̃ ʃeː | ɛ wɑ̃ kɔː pʷɑ ʃɑː çɛ̃ᵑɡɛ || nʌ̃ ʃɑː xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ wɑ̃ ʧɑtoɑ nʌ̃ ⁿdɔᵐbʷɑ ɛ nʌ̃ nũ fɑmʷɑː rɛ ᶮɟurumeɑ rɛː | mɛ rɛ xʷi ʃɑː ⁿdɔu | mɛ rɛ peː rɑ mɛ rɛ mĩɑ̃ || ⁿdɔunʌ̃ xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ wɑ̃ kɛkɛ ᶮɟurumeɑ rɛː || nʌ̃ ɛ ʃe mɛ || "wĩᶮɟɛ kɨ kɛkɛ ᶮɟurumeɑ rɛ nɑ̃? kʷikɑ̃ː | kʷikɑ̃ː || | ⁿdɔu witɑ kɛkɛ rɛ nũ wɛi xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ kɨ teː kɨ nʌ̃ kɛːpɑiː rɛ nũ iː kɨ nʌ̃ kɛkɛ rɛ wɑ̃ kɛtɛ ᵐbʷɑ mɛ kɨ çiː kɛkɛ rɔwɑ̃ nɑ̃ | kʷikɑ̃ː | kʷikɑ̃ː ||"tɛpɤ rɛ wɛi nʌ̃ xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ mɛ̃ wɛi nʌ̃ ᵐbɨ ɑrɛnʌ̃ || nʌ̃ wɛɑ ᵐbɨ wɑ̃ ʧɑtoɑ kɛ kɛtɛ mʷĩrĩ nʌ̃ ɛ fɛ ti mũᵑɡe ⁿdɑ kɛwɑ̃ ʌ̃ːⁿdɑ mʷĩrĩ ɛ fɛ ɛ ⁿdɛ xʷɛ mũᵑɡe mɑ̃ːɨ̃ | ɛ xʷɛ mɑ̃ːɨ̃ | xʷɛ | xʷɛ.../

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What is a labialised bilabial? Can you have velarised velars and palatalised palatals (not palato-alveolars and alveo-palatals) as well?
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mèþru wrote:What is a labialised bilabial? Can you have velarised velars and palatalised palatals (not palato-alveolars and alveo-palatals) as well?
The first is possible and common in some branches of Austronesian (as this language is). The second is not and the third seems unlikely.

The thing is I see a labialised bilabial as a bilabial with a labio-velar offglide, so it's not entirely indistinguishable from a normal bilabial.
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The name sounds like a misnomer then.
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mèþru wrote:What is a labialised bilabial? Can you have velarised velars and palatalised palatals (not palato-alveolars and alveo-palatals) as well?
“labialized” is synonymous to “rounded” in this context—so, yes, it is possible and it is not analogous to velarized velars or palatalized palatals.
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I thought that bilabials are rounded. What is the difference?
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Bilabial means that both lips are involved. Rounded means that corners of the mouth are involved and drawn together. Plain [p] is pronounced with the corners relaxed.
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Xãrãtsìì

<p pw b bw t d ts ď k kw g gw>
<m mw n ň ŋ>
<r>
<f v s x́ x xw>
<w~ẉ l j> (ẉ is used after /p ᵐb k ᵑɡ m x/

<i ĩ é e ẽ a ã o õ ó u ũ ì ȉ ɇ́ ɇ ɇ̃>
<ii ĩĩ éé ee ẽẽ aa ãã oo õõ óó uu ũũ ìì ȉȉ ɇ́ɇ́ ɇɇ ɇ̃ɇ̃>

Doume nã sé tepɇ́ wã wea bì mẽ wea xẽsãrã. Doux́aìna nɇ̃ wea bì nɇ̃ x́aì ďe ďe me re da mẽ nɇ̃. Saa pwẽ xuu kwie wã nɇ̃ xwa re. Nɇ̃ e wãmẽ tẽĩ, e wãmẽ séé, e wã koː pwa saa x́ẽge. Nɇ̃ saa xẽsãrã wã tsatóa nɇ̃ dobwa e nɇ̃ nũ famwaa re ďuruméa ree, me re xwi saa dou, me re péé ra me re mĩã. Dounɇ̃ xẽsãrã wã keke ďuruméa ree. Nɇ̃ e sé me. "Wĩďe kì keke ďuruméa re nã? Kwikãã, kwikãã. Dou wita keke re nũ wei xẽsãrã kì téé kì nɇ̃ keepaii re nũ ii kì nɇ̃ keke re wã kete bwa me kì x́ii keke roẉã nã, kwikãã, kwikãã." Tepɇ́ re wei nɇ̃ xẽsãrã mẽ wei nɇ̃ bì arenɇ̃. Nɇ̃ wea bì wã tsatóa ke kete mwĩrĩ nɇ̃ e fe ti mũgé da kewã ɇ̃ɇ̃da mwĩrĩ e fe e de xwe mũgé mããȉ, e xwe mããȉ, xwe, xwe...

agefaqeg-style :

Khaò̃raò̃ťìì

<p pw mb mbw t nd ť ňd k kw g ŋgw>
<m mw n ň ŋ>
<r̀>
<f v š ťh kh khw>
<w l r>

<i ĩ e è è̃ aò aò̃ ò ò̃ o u ũ ì ì͂ ɇ ɇ̀ ɇ̀͂>
<ii ĩĩ ee èè è̃ aòaò aò̃aò̃ òò ò̃ò̃ oo uu ũũ ìì ì͂ì͂ ɇɇ ɇ̀ɇ̀ ɇ̀͂ɇ̀͂>

ndòumè naõ še tèpɇ waõ wèao mbì mè̃ wèao khè̃šaõr̀aõ, ndòuťhaoìnao nɇ̀̃ wèao mbì nɇ̀̃ ťhaoì ňdè ňdè mè r̀è ndao mè̃ nɇ̀̃, šaoao pwè̃ khuu kwiè waõ nɇ̀̃ khwao r̀è, nɇ̀̃ è waõmè̃ tè̃ĩ, è waõmè̃ šee, è waõ kòò pwao šaoao ťhè̃ŋgè, nɇ̀̃ šaoao khè̃šaõr̀aõ waõ ťaotoao nɇ̀̃ ndòmbwao è nɇ̀̃ nũ faomwaoao r̀è ňdur̀umeao r̀èè, mè r̀è khwi šaoao ndòu, mè r̀è pee r̀ao mè r̀è mĩaõ, ndòunɇ̀̃ khè̃šaõr̀aõ waõ kèkè ňdur̀umeao r̀èè, nɇ̀̃ è še mè, "wĩňdè kì kèkè ňdur̀umeao r̀è naõ? kwikaõaõ, kwikaõaõ, ndòu witao kèkè r̀è nũ wèi khè̃šaõr̀aõ kì tee kì nɇ̀̃ kèepaoii r̀è nũ ii kì nɇ̀̃ kèkè r̀è waõ kètè mbwao mè kì ťhii kèkè r̀òwaõ naõ, kwikaõaõ, kwikaõaõ,"tèpɇ r̀è wèi nɇ̀̃ khè̃šaõr̀aõ mè̃ wèi nɇ̀̃ mbì aor̀ènɇ̀̃, nɇ̀̃ wèao mbì waõ ťaotoao kè kètè mwĩr̀ĩ nɇ̀̃ è fè ti mũŋge ndao kèwaõ ɇ̀̃ɇ̀̃ndao mwĩr̀ĩ è fè è ndè khwè mũŋge maõaõì̃, è khwè maõaõì̃, khwè, khwè...

I'd be interested to see someone else do an agefaqeg-style romanisation of a language based on my posts on this thread.
ìtsanso, God In The Mountain, may our names inspire the deepest feelings of fear in urkos and all his ilk, for we have saved another man from his lies! I welcome back to the feast hall kal, who will never gamble again! May the eleven gods bless him!
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Hanrant'yy

/p pʷ ᵐb ᵐbʷ t ⁿd ʧ ᶮɟ k kʷ ᵑɡ ᵑɡʷ/ <p p̪ö b bö t d t' d' k kö g gö>
/m mʷ n ɲ ŋ/ <m mö n ñ ŋ>
/r/ <r>
/f v ʃ ç x xʷ/ <ff f x c h hö>
/w l j/ <w l j>

/i ĩ e ɛ ɛ̃ ɑ ɑ̃ ɔ ɔ̃ o u ũ ɨ ɨ̃ ɤ ʌ ʌ̃/ <i in ie e en a an o on uo u un y yn yv v vn>
/iː ĩː eː ɛː ɛ̃ː ɑː ɑ̃ː ɔː ɔ̃ː oː uː ũː ɨː ɨ̃ː ɤː ʌː ʌ̃ː/ <í ín íe é én á án ó ón úo ú ún ý ýn ýv v́ v́n> ' is used to distinguish a nasal vowel from a /n/ in onset.

Doume nan xie tepyv wan wea by men wea henxanran. Doucayna nvn wea by nvn cay d'e d'e me re da men nvn. Xá pöen hú köie wan nvn höa re. Nvn e wanmen ten'in, e wanmen xié, e wan kó pöa xá cenge. Nvn xá henxanran wan t'atuoa nvn doböa e nvn nun fa̪möá re d'urumiea ré, me re höi xá dou, me re pié ra me re min'an. Dounvn henxanran wan keke d'urumiea ré. Nvn e xie me. "Wind'e ky keke d'urumiea re nan? Köikán, köikán... Dou wita keke re nun wei henxanran ky tié ky nvn képaí re nun í ky nvn keke re wan kete böa me ky cí keke rowan nan, köikán, köikán". Tepyv re wei nvn henxanran men wei nvn by arenvn. Nvn wea by wan t'atuoa ke kete möinrin nvn e fe ti mungie da kewan v́nda möinrin e fe e de höe mungie mán'yn, e höe mán'yn, höe, höe...
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/p pʷ ᵐb ᵐbʷ t ⁿd ʧ ᶮɟ k kʷ ᵑɡ ᵑɡʷ/ <p pw b bw t nd rr j k kw g gw>
/m mʷ n ɲ ŋ/ <m mu n ny ng~n̶g̶>
/r/ <d>
/f v ʃ ç x xʷ/ <f v r c x xw>
/w l j/ <w l y>

/i ĩ e ɛ ɛ̃ ɑ ɑ̃ ɔ ɔ̃ o u ũ ɨ ɨ̃ ɤ ʌ ʌ̃/ <i ing y' e eng a ang o ong o' u ung u' ung' e' a' eyng>
/iː ĩː eː ɛː ɛ̃ː ɑː ɑ̃ː ɔː ɔ̃ː oː uː ũː ɨː ɨ̃ː ɤː ʌː ʌ̃ː/ <ih ingh yh'...>

/ⁿdɔumɛ nɑ̃ ʃe tɛpɤ wɑ̃ wɛɑ ᵐbɨ mɛ̃ wɛɑ xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ || ⁿdɔuçɑɨnɑ nʌ̃ wɛɑ ᵐbɨ nʌ̃ çɑɨ ᶮɟɛ ᶮɟɛ mɛ rɛ ⁿdɑ mɛ̃ nʌ̃ || ʃɑː pʷɛ̃ xuː kʷiɛ wɑ̃ nʌ̃ xʷɑ rɛ || nʌ̃ ɛ wɑ̃mɛ̃ tɛ̃ĩ | ɛ wɑ̃mɛ̃ ʃeː | ɛ wɑ̃ kɔː pʷɑ ʃɑː çɛ̃ᵑɡɛ || nʌ̃ ʃɑː xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ wɑ̃ ʧɑtoɑ nʌ̃ ⁿdɔᵐbʷɑ ɛ nʌ̃ nũ fɑmʷɑː rɛ ᶮɟurumeɑ rɛː | mɛ rɛ xʷi ʃɑː ⁿdɔu | mɛ rɛ peː rɑ mɛ rɛ mĩɑ̃ || ⁿdɔunʌ̃ xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ wɑ̃ kɛkɛ ᶮɟurumeɑ rɛː || nʌ̃ ɛ ʃe mɛ || "wĩᶮɟɛ kɨ kɛkɛ ᶮɟurumeɑ rɛ nɑ̃? kʷikɑ̃ː | kʷikɑ̃ː || | ⁿdɔu witɑ kɛkɛ rɛ nũ wɛi xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ kɨ teː kɨ nʌ̃ kɛːpɑiː rɛ nũ iː kɨ nʌ̃ kɛkɛ rɛ wɑ̃ kɛtɛ ᵐbʷɑ mɛ kɨ çiː kɛkɛ rɔwɑ̃ nɑ̃ | kʷikɑ̃ː | kʷikɑ̃ː ||"tɛpɤ rɛ wɛi nʌ̃ xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ mɛ̃ wɛi nʌ̃ ᵐbɨ ɑrɛnʌ̃ || nʌ̃ wɛɑ ᵐbɨ wɑ̃ ʧɑtoɑ kɛ kɛtɛ mʷĩrĩ nʌ̃ ɛ fɛ ti mũᵑɡe ⁿdɑ kɛwɑ̃ ʌ̃ːⁿdɑ mʷĩrĩ ɛ fɛ ɛ ⁿdɛ xʷɛ mũᵑɡe mɑ̃ːɨ̃ | ɛ xʷɛ mɑ̃ːɨ̃ | xʷɛ | xʷɛ..."/

Ndoume nang ry' tepe' wang wea bu' meng wea xengrangdang. Ndoucau'na neyng wea bu' neyng cau' je je me de nda meng neyng. Rah pweng xuh kwie wang neyng xwa de. Neyng e wangmeng tenging, e wangmeng ryh', e wang koh pwa rah cengge. Neyng rah xengrangdang wang rrato'a neyng ndobwa e neyng nung famwah de judumy'a deh, me de xwi rah ndou, me de pyh' da me de mingang. Ndouneyng xengrangdang wang keke judumy'a deh. Neyng e ry' me. "Wingje ku' keke judumy'a de nang? Kwikangh, kwikangh., ndou wita keke de nung wei xengrangdang ku' tyh' ku' neyng kehpaih de nung ih ku' neyng keke de wang kete bwa me ku' cih keke dowang nang, Kwikangh, kwikangh. "Tepe' de wei neyng xengrangdang meng wei neyng bu' adeneyng. Neyng wea bu' wang rrato'a ke kete mwingding neyng e fe ti munggy' nda kewang eynghnda mwingding e fe e nde xwe munggy' manghung', e xwe manghung', xwe, xwe..."


or:

Ndoume nang ré tepè wang wea bù meng wea xengrangdang. Ndoucaùna nàng wea bù nàng caù je je me de nda meng nàng. Rah pweng xuh kwie wang nàng xwa de. Nàng e wangmeng tenging, e wangmeng réh, e wang koh pwa rah cengge.

Ndoume nang ré tepè wang wea bù meng wea xengrangdang. Ndoucaùna nàng wea bù nàng caù je je me de nda meng nàng. Ra: pweng xu: kwie wang nàng xwa de. Nàng e wangmeng tenging, e wangmeng ré:, e wang ko: pwa ra: cengge.

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/p pʷ ᵐb ᵐbʷ t ⁿd ʧ ᶮɟ k kʷ ᵑɡ ᵑɡʷ/ <p pw mb mbw t nd ch nj k qu g gw>
/m mʷ n ɲ ŋ/ <m mw n ny ng>
/r/ <#r/d>
/f v ʃ ç x xʷ/ <f v sh hy h wh>
/w l j/ <w l y>

/i ĩ e ɛ ɛ̃ ɑ ɑ̃ ɔ ɔ̃ o u ũ ɨ ɨ̃ ɤ ʌ ʌ̃/ <ee een ay e en a/aa# an aw awn o oo oon i in er u/a# un>
/iː ĩː eː ɛː ɛ̃ː ɑː ɑ̃ː ɔː ɔ̃ː oː uː ũː ɨː ɨ̃ː ɤː ʌː ʌ̃ː/ <eeee eeeen aiay eë eën...>

/ⁿdɔumɛ nɑ̃ ʃe tɛpɤ wɑ̃ wɛɑ ᵐbɨ mɛ̃ wɛɑ xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ || ⁿdɔuçɑɨnɑ nʌ̃ wɛɑ ᵐbɨ nʌ̃ çɑɨ ᶮɟɛ ᶮɟɛ mɛ rɛ ⁿdɑ mɛ̃ nʌ̃ || ʃɑː pʷɛ̃ xuː kʷiɛ wɑ̃ nʌ̃ xʷɑ rɛ || nʌ̃ ɛ wɑ̃mɛ̃ tɛ̃ĩ | ɛ wɑ̃mɛ̃ ʃeː | ɛ wɑ̃ kɔː pʷɑ ʃɑː çɛ̃ᵑɡɛ || nʌ̃ ʃɑː xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ wɑ̃ ʧɑtoɑ nʌ̃ ⁿdɔᵐbʷɑ ɛ nʌ̃ nũ fɑmʷɑː rɛ ᶮɟurumeɑ rɛː | mɛ rɛ xʷi ʃɑː ⁿdɔu | mɛ rɛ peː rɑ mɛ rɛ mĩɑ̃ || ⁿdɔunʌ̃ xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ wɑ̃ kɛkɛ ᶮɟurumeɑ rɛː || nʌ̃ ɛ ʃe mɛ || "wĩᶮɟɛ kɨ kɛkɛ ᶮɟurumeɑ rɛ nɑ̃? kʷikɑ̃ː | kʷikɑ̃ː || | ⁿdɔu witɑ kɛkɛ rɛ nũ wɛi xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ kɨ teː kɨ nʌ̃ kɛːpɑiː rɛ nũ iː kɨ nʌ̃ kɛkɛ rɛ wɑ̃ kɛtɛ ᵐbʷɑ mɛ kɨ çiː kɛkɛ rɔwɑ̃ nɑ̃ | kʷikɑ̃ː | kʷikɑ̃ː ||"tɛpɤ rɛ wɛi nʌ̃ xɛ̃ʃɑ̃rɑ̃ mɛ̃ wɛi nʌ̃ ᵐbɨ ɑrɛnʌ̃ || nʌ̃ wɛɑ ᵐbɨ wɑ̃ ʧɑtoɑ kɛ kɛtɛ mʷĩrĩ nʌ̃ ɛ fɛ ti mũᵑɡe ⁿdɑ kɛwɑ̃ ʌ̃ːⁿdɑ mʷĩrĩ ɛ fɛ ɛ ⁿdɛ xʷɛ mũᵑɡe mɑ̃ːɨ̃ | ɛ xʷɛ mɑ̃ːɨ̃ | xʷɛ | xʷɛ..."/

Ndawöome nan shay teppa wan weäa mbi men weäa henshan'dan. Ndawöohyaïnaa nun weäa mbi nun hyaï nje nje me re ndaa men nun. Shaäa pwen hooöo queeë wan nun whaa re. Nun e wanmen ten'een, e wanmen shaiay. E wan kauaw pwaa shaäa hyen'ge. Nun shaäa henshan'dan wan chatoäa nun ndawmbwaa e nun noon famwaäa re njoodoomayaa reë. Me re whee shaäa ndawöo. Me re paiay raa me re min'an. Ndawöonun henshan'dan wan kekke njoodoomayaa reë. Nun e shay me, "Weennje ki kekke njoodoomayaa re nan? Queekaan, queekaan. Ndawöo weetaa kekke re noon weëe henshan'dan ki taiay ki nun keëpaeeëe re noon eeëe ki nun kekke re wan kette mbwaa me ki hyeeëe kekke rawwan nan, queekaan, queekaan." Tepper re weëe nun henshan'dan men weëe nun mbi adenun. Nun weäa mbi wan chatoäa ke kette mween'deen nun e fe tee moon'gay ndaa kewan uunndaa mween'deen e fe e nde whe moon'gay maan'in, e whe maan'in, whe, whe...
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EDIT (again):
My English-based orthography for Frislander's unnamed Algo-lang:
/p t k ʔ/ <p t k hh> (glottal stop is not written initially)
/m n/ <m n>
/θ s ʃ h/ <th s sh h~wh> (<wh> after <t> or <s>)
/iː i oː o aː a/ <ee e oo o aa a>
/iː˦ i˦ oː˦ o˦ aː˦ a˦/ <eei ei ooi oi aai ai>

I want critique on my alternative orthography as well as other suggestions for an English-based orthography dating from before Webster invented American English spelling.

/ʔi˧.ta˦.ni˧/
/hi˧.ta˧.ni˧/
/hi˧.ʔi˦/
/ho˧.θam˧/
/ho˧.ʃa˧.ta˦/
/ʔa˦.nti˧/
/mo˦.ʔi˧/
/miː˦.hi˧/
/θiː˦.po˧/
/ʃoː˦.pih˧/
/no˧.ma˦/
/hi˦.ʃi˧/
/na˧.pi˧/
/hi˦.si˧.ka˦/
/ho˧.θi˧/
/ʃi˦.ʃom˦/
/ho˦.han˧/
/ʔiː˦.si˦/
/ma˧.noːn˦/
/hi˧.pi˦/
/ʔi˧.noː˦.pi˧/
/ho˧.ʔi˦/
/ho˦.ʔi˧/
hetane
hehhei
hotham
hoshatai
ainte
moihhe
meeihe
theeipo
shooipeh
nomai
heishe
nape
heisekai
hothe
sheishoim
hoihan
eeisei
manooin
hepei
enooipe
hohhei
hoihhe

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A labial consonant followed by w is the traditional way of indicating velarized labials in Oceanic scholarship. They aren't "labialized bilabials" proper.

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My unnamed Algo-lang (corrected examples, use these)

/p t k ʔ/ <p t k '/unmarked at the start of words>
/m n/ <m n>
/θ s ʃ h/ <th s sh h>
/iː i oː o aː a/ <ee e oo o aa a>
/iː˦ i˦ oː˦ o˦ aː˦ a˦/ <éé é óó ó áá á>

/hi˧.ta˧.ni˧/
/hi˧.ʔi˦/
/ho˧.θam˦/
/ho˧.ʃa˧.ta˦/
/ʔan˦.ti˧/
/mo˦.ʔi˧/
/miː˦.hi˧/
/θiː˦.po˧/
/ʃoː˦.pih˧/
/no˧.ma˦/
/hi˦.ʃi˧/
/na˧.pi˧/
/hi˦.si˧.ka˦/
/ho˧.θi˧/
/ʃi˦.ʃom˦/
/ho˦.han˧/
/ʔiː˦.si˦/
/ma˧.noːn˦/
/hi˧.pi˦/
/ʔiː˧.noː˦.pi˧/
/ho˧.ʔi˦/
/ho˦.ʔi˧/
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manóón
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'inóópi
ho'í
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hetane
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hothám
hoshatá
ánte
mó'e
mééhe
théépo
shoopéh
nomá
héshe
nape
héseká
hothe
shéshóm
hohán
éésé
manóón
heepé
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hó'e

EDIT: Examples changed yet again (not by much this time)
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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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I still prefer my own over that. I like accents and stuff, but most English speakers (especially uneducated Americans) seem to have an irrational fear of them. The idea of <'> as a glottal stop didn't really exist. I used <hh> based on uh-oh. I also think that your corrected forms don't follow what you wrote on the scratchpad.
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Editing my post to reflect the changes.
ìtsanso, God In The Mountain, may our names inspire the deepest feelings of fear in urkos and all his ilk, for we have saved another man from his lies! I welcome back to the feast hall kal, who will never gamble again! May the eleven gods bless him!
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