Venting thread that still excludes eddy (2)

[Travis B.]

At this point it is hard for me to not dispise all Trump voters as a general grouping of people, but it is hard for me to dispise people I actually know who probably voted for Trump, like my brother-in-law, my ex (I have my reasons for disliking her, but I suppress them for the sake of getting along with her for the sake of my daughter), and my ex's husband.

[jmcd]

Much as I disapprove of Trump and similar ideas, I don't think retaliation is the answer. [/schoolteacher]

[Ketumak]

I'm another one with problems with the Trumpists in my life. Most of my relatives in Michigan voted DJT,especially one cousin and her husband. My wife and I got on really well with them when they came over last summer. The husband has done some interesting family history research on both sides of the family and he's collating old family photos on Facebook. Difficult people to dislike in many ways, but this Trump thing is starting to come between us. Brexit has been doing the same with me and some English relatives.

I've decided there's no point in arguing about it, in both cases. Just let events take their course. At some point the wheels will come off both these bandwagons, probably several times. I've decided, then, to wait for those and use them to slip in ideas and try and bend people more my way. I hope to have a cumulative effect before more elections come along. We shall see. Or not.

[Travis B.]

I don't know how I will live on my own, by myself, ever again. I function so poorly when left to my own devices that it is not funny.

[Chagen]

The election has definitely done some damage to the two discord servers I frequent. In one of them, a bunch of members (who never showed up before--they had always been on the member list, but were never around) showed up the night of the election and spammed /pol/ memes all night long. That guy who I said gave me a serious tear-down a few days back? Trump supporter.

The woman whom I view as a surrogate mother (it's a long story) and intimate confidant? Also a trump supporter. I patched things up with her, because she truly does not seem like a bad person, but it shook me terribly bad. I nearly fell into tears, and that's really hard for a depressed person like me.

There was another girl who I have been chatting with often. She did not vote for Trump, but said she thought he was better than Hillary. She is an incredibly shy and nice girl and that nearly cleaved my heart in half. I forgave her though since she didn't actually vote for him.

There is also another girl (a friend of the one above) who I had been chatting with for the first time all day long yesterday. We were hitting it off very well, then she disappears all today. I get worried (and a little anxious), and then she shows up and says "I'm blocking all trump supporters", and then I learn from the girl above that she has drank herself into a hangover.

These discord servers were once lovely places of like-minded people chat with. We were communities. Overnight they have been torn apart and even though we have returned to "normal", the atmosphere is different. That community atmosphere--that feeling that we were all friends who would never hate each other--is gone. I feel on edge.

At the same time, I am very glad I came to these two places. I have received so much support and friendship. I have friends, fuck I have a damn mom that actually cares for me.

I just wish I could go back. To a happier and less stressful time.

[KathTheDragon]

I've had to more or less ban talk on the election and Trump on a server I admin, due to it stressing out a number of people into leaving completely (since a good half the people on it are insufferable memers who think they're hillarious)

[Travis B.]

Unloaded everything about what's been going on lately and the past positive and negative symptoms to my therapist...

At least my therapist took everything quite seriously. For some reason I was afraid she wouldn't.

[Viktor77]

I'm another one with problems with the Trumpists in my life. Most of my relatives in Michigan voted DJT,especially one cousin and her husband. My wife and I got on really well with them when they came over last summer. The husband has done some interesting family history research on both sides of the family and he's collating old family photos on Facebook. Difficult people to dislike in many ways, but this Trump thing is starting to come between us. Brexit has been doing the same with me and some English relatives.

I've decided there's no point in arguing about it, in both cases. Just let events take their course. At some point the wheels will come off both these bandwagons, probably several times. I've decided, then, to wait for those and use them to slip in ideas and try and bend people more my way. I hope to have a cumulative effect before more elections come along. We shall see. Or not.

Yea I have a number of Michigan relatives and friends who are Trump supporters and voters. My father, my best friend and his wife, my grandparents, many others. It got really heated with my father and my best friend in ways but I decided to just apologize and let it go. I think they'll come to regret their decision but I say, let them have their moment and let them reap what they've sown. It's still hard to look at them and I haven't spoken to any of them in length since, but I'm trying to work through it.

Though I do honestly want to know if I can say 'grab some pussy' in front of my very traditional grandmother. She voted for Trump so she must condone this sort of behavior.

[Chagen]

I am exhausted and I have walked around very little today. I came to blows with that surrogate mother figure I mentioned above. We are still together (as much as two people online can be said to be "together"), but I...

I dunno. I was easy on her. I should have been harder on her. I don't even know how to explain. I don't want to. I wish this living hell hadn't transpired, then I wouldn't watch myself nearly lose one of my best friends ever.

Someone on another server revealed themselves to be a Brexit supporter and UKIP voter too. Ugh. And I couldn't call them out on thanks to the no politics rule it has in place. Which I thought was a good idea at first, but it has the painful side effect that you can't call out bigots when you see them.

[jmcd]

Some of my best friends voted Sarokzy. We get along fine anyway, sometimes even discussing politics.

Do you know what made them vote for those parties?

If the server has a no-politics rule, how can the person say they vote for a particular party?

[Chagen]

it was a joke

she wasn't a UKIP member

i learned this after I went off on her and screamed at her

and now I feel terrible

too terrible to use capital letters

i want to just fucking die now

[Pole, the]

it was a joke

she wasn't a UKIP member

i learned this after I went off on her and screamed at her

and now I feel terrible

too terrible to use capital letters

i want to just fucking die now

Please no.

Getting angry at one another for wrong reasons is a normal part of human interactions. (It's so common there's even a whole genre based on playing that for laughs.)

If it's somebody you know and care about, you have to accept that sometimes you will be wrong about that person. And sometimes it will lead to you or them being hurt. If it's somebody you've just texted casually, you don't need to be bothered: online discussions are often rapid and violent, thanks to the perceived anonymity. Especially when it comes to politics.

But if it's someone you meet online often, and someone you care about, maybe the best option would be to talk to them, say sorry and explain the whole situation?

[KathTheDragon]

Might I also suggest that you politely request that they don't make jokes like that in future?

[jmcd]

I agree with the two posters directly preceding this post.

It is human to make mistakes anyway.

[Travis B.]

Agh. The paranoia is driving me nuts. I used to work in this section of the office all by myself (most of my coworkers on my team are in the next section over), but today it seems I got a new coworker who is now sitting in the same section as me, and I keep on glancing over at him to make sure he isn't looking at me, and even when he's not here I keep on looking over at the opening into this section just to makes sure there's no one there looking at me. I can't help it. I feel like I am being watched or that someone might be watching me. And it's bothering me quite a bit, because I'm not (at least prior to last week) usually this paranoid.

[jal]

Some of my best friends voted Sarokzy.

Well, I'd consider him moderate and main stream. It's not like they voted Le Pen...


JAL

[masako]

They've changed the probationary period for my job from 1 year to two. So, instead of being halfway done, I'm only a quarter way through. Damnit.

[Travis B.]

I've only stayed at two jobs that long, and one time didn't even count because officially I didn't stay at a single company that long, but rather moved from one company to another (contract switchover) even though I sat in the same desk at both companies.

[jmcd]

Some of my best friends voted Sarokzy.

Well, I'd consider him moderate and main stream. It's not like they voted Le Pen...


JAL

Mainstream maybe, but especially in his most recent incarnation he's no Mr Nice Guy either. I suppose I do know people considering voting Le Pen as well.

EDIT/ Try to tell the difference between the two: http://fr.quizity.com/play/quiz/22295/C ... _politique

[Chagen]

I've patched things up with that girl and we're decent friends now. Had a lovely chat with her about gaming PC's, and I even learned that she lives in Houston and used to regularly come down to where I live! I wonder if I can meet her one day...

However, to keep more in line with the theme of the thread, I've been realizing that I'm a thirsty loser thanks to this discord server. To put it bluntly--I kind of, well...jump at any girl on the server and try to get to know her. Now, I try to be nice and fun to chat with, and they all like me, but I can't help but feel that I'm acting kind of sleazy. I realized I had a problem when a girl joined, and I immediately formulated a plan to talk to her and become her friend. There is a lot of RP on this server too, as well as...um...ERP, and...yup.

Now, it's not like I'm approaching girls in a sleazy way. Everyone likes me at least as a passing acquaintance, and the girls I do know are all good friends. But I know about only 3 guys closely on this place as opposed to seven women (well, 6 women and one non-binary person who seems to present as female).

I've gone as far as inviting someone I know from off of discord onto the server, like I'm building a fucking harem or some shit. I'm not sure this is healthy, nor am I sure if my attachments. This is new stuff for me, because I always used to be extremely shy even online. I rarely added people as friends on the sites I knew. Now I'm throwing myself at everyone I see with this completely uncharacteristic confidence. I actually like it, and I hope I can keep this confidence and make more friends both online and off, but isn't this confidence just born from being online? I can play the role of a super-friendly casanova with seven girls hanging off of me (okay, I'm not actually that cool even online) but in the real world I'm still a wallflower who can't talk to anyone without getting panic attacks. Perhaps all of this confidence is just a mask I've created, and I haven't really changed.

[Travis B.]

Just because things could be better does not mean one should complain about what one has. I feel I have an invisible wall around me, keeping everyone at a distance, whether IRL or online. At most people are acquaintances to me, who I do not allow to get too close (mind you I generally allow people to get much closer online than IRL), with the exception of just two friends total - both of whom live hundreds of miles away and who I have not seen either of in years. And one of these people I have known since we were 12. So that means I have only one friend I have gained and kept since then. The only people here I really know are my immediate family. And they don't really know me either, since I do not feel comfortable letting them know me. (The only person IRL I let really know me at all is said friend I've known since we were 12, and even then I have hidden a lot from even her for many years.)

[Chagen]

God I fucking love America. Can't apply for disability benefits unless you have worked. Never mind that they exist for people who can't work in the first damn place.

[Viktor77]

I was all set to buy this awesome 50s Danish train poster from a Danish train museum but then they required me to wire them the money which has a fee of 25$. I'm sorry but I'm not wiring you money internationally. I don't understand why I can't just pay through your website, or through PayPal.... But I am disappointed. I already had a spot picked out for the poster....

I know, #firstworldproblems.

[Chagen]

Accurate representation of Social Security in the US: "You're a sucidally depressed probably-autistic near-invalid who can barely function in everyday society but you own a phone so go fuck yourself".

In the meanwhile my Canadian sub lives off disability for a minor literacy problem. She doesn't go to school or work at all.

[Travis B.]

Accurate representation of Social Security in the US: "You're a sucidally depressed probably-autistic near-invalid who can barely function in everyday society but you own a phone so go fuck yourself".

Getting disability here in the US is a pain in the ass, yes. For mental health issues one generally needs a significant treatment history indicating that this is a persistent issue that likely will not go away any time soon as well as a work history indicating that one really cannot work. And even then one will frequently have to try multiple times before one gets it. However, getting an SSI/SSDI lawyer (who is paid out of what you get for disability) will help a lot and much all of this much easier.

And, yes, how mentally ill people are treated here in the US tends to be pretty marginal; consider what proportion of homeless people are seriously mentally ill (20-25% as opposed to 6% for the general population) and that only about half of mentally ill adults and 20% of mentally ill children get treated in the first place...