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Just read up on the various names for this:
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Pain au chocolate, in that barbarous faux-French /pæn əʊ ʃɒkəʊlɑ/

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Careful: a man once died for calling it [pæ̃ o ʃokola] instead of [ʃokolaˈtinə].

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I'd call it gross, but I then I don't like chocolate, so... :p
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Ryusenshi wrote:Careful: a man once died for calling it [pæ̃ o ʃokola] instead of [ʃokolaˈtinə].
Holy shit what is that article. I mean I've seen an old man yell at a girl for not calling a pastry the local name, but that was general Berliner grumpiness.

Pain o' chocolate is called Schokobrötchen "chocolate bun" here, in case anyone wonders. Or Schokocroissant even though it isn't technically a croissant, but Schokobrötchen is also this.

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The only term I've ever heard for that is "chocolate croissant".
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Acid Badger wrote:Holy shit what is that article
It's from Le Gorafi, a satirical news site. Basically a French The Onion.

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Ryusenshi wrote:Careful: a man once died for calling it [pæ̃ o ʃokola] instead of [ʃokolaˈtinə].
Yeah, I basically had a Frenchman pick a fight with me on Facebook because I teased him for referring to pain au chocolat as "le vrai nom" as if we were living in some mediaeval philosophical paradigm. He immediately took me for a chocolatiniste when really, as we say where I come from, I don't have a dog in this fight.

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The Onion could make a similar article about a Californian man getting killed for ordering a "soda" in the Midwest.

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KathTheDragon wrote:Pain au chocolate, in that barbarous faux-French /pæn əʊ ʃɒkəʊlɑ/
Never heard/seen it called anything other than 'pain au chocolate'. Though I'd probably say it something like /p{~ oU SQkQlA:/.
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Thinking about it, I probably do say /ʃɒkɒlɑ/ as well, maybe /ə/ in the second syllable.

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Ryusenshi wrote:The Onion could make a similar article about a Californian man getting killed for ordering a "soda" in the Midwest.
But it would miss the mark since millions of people native to the Midwest say "soda". (I know this because I'm one of them--and Onion staff would know this, too, since although their offices are in Chicago, not all of them are from here.)

IME, Midwesterners don't get het up about what you call certain foods. Some do get irrationally excited about how you prepare certain foods, as typified by how easy it is to troll Chicagoans with any mention of ketchup on hotdogs. But Philadelphians get at least as worked up over what kind of cheese you can put on a cheesesteak, so I think this is more a big-city thing than anything.

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linguoboy wrote:Some do get irrationally excited about how you prepare certain foods, as typified by how easy it is to troll Chicagoans with any mention of ketchup on hotdogs.
Wait, what? How are you supposed to eat a hot dog in Chicago then?

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linguoboy wrote: IME, Midwesterners don't get het up about what you call certain foods.
Aside from the soda/pop distinction, I think I agree with you.

(Soda is the correct word, by the way)

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Axiem wrote:
linguoboy wrote:IME, Midwesterners don't get het up about what you call certain foods.
Aside from the soda/pop distinction, I think I agree with you.
I've lived in Chicago for thirty years. I still call it "soda". I remember getting teased for that once or twice in college, when everyone's getting used to everyone else's accents. Literally no one else has ever cared.
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linguoboy wrote:Some do get irrationally excited about how you prepare certain foods, as typified by how easy it is to troll Chicagoans with any mention of ketchup on hotdogs.
Wait, what? How are you supposed to eat a hot dog in Chicago then?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_hot_dog
The canonical recipe does not include ketchup, and there is a widely shared, strong opinion among many Chicagoans and aficionados that ketchup is unacceptable.

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Well, if you have all that in a hot dog, then you certainly don't need ketchup. :P Oh, Americans and messy-ass food...

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linguoboy wrote:
Ryusenshi wrote:The Onion could make a similar article about a Californian man getting killed for ordering a "soda" in the Midwest.
But it would miss the mark since millions of people native to the Midwest say "soda". (I know this because I'm one of them--and Onion staff would know this, too, since although their offices are in Chicago, not all of them are from here.)

IME, Midwesterners don't get het up about what you call certain foods. Some do get irrationally excited about how you prepare certain foods, as typified by how easy it is to troll Chicagoans with any mention of ketchup on hotdogs. But Philadelphians get at least as worked up over what kind of cheese you can put on a cheesesteak, so I think this is more a big-city thing than anything.
Here in the Milwaukee area, the word is soda, and saying anything else marks you as not being from here.
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Vijay wrote:Oh, Americans and messy-ass food...
Hey, it's better than messy ass-food!

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Axiem wrote:
Vijay wrote:Oh, Americans and messy-ass food...
Hey, it's better than messy ass-food!
I would take grilled chicken ass over that hot dog any day.

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Vijay wrote:Well, if you have all that in a hot dog, then you certainly don't need ketchup. :P Oh, Americans and messy-ass food...
This is in accord with the American national character. Like the electric guitar, and NASCAR, and President Trump.

However, the Correct hot dog preparation is with sauerkraut.
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Nortaneous wrote:However, the Correct hot dog preparation is with sauerkraut.
Sauerkraut is for sausages that can stand up to it, like brats and kielbasa. Why would you waste it on a hotdog?

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Nortaneous wrote:
Vijay wrote:Well, if you have all that in a hot dog, then you certainly don't need ketchup. :P Oh, Americans and messy-ass food...
This is in accord with the American national character. Like the electric guitar, and NASCAR, and President Trump.

However, the Correct hot dog preparation is with sauerkraut.
The correct hot dog preparation is to throw it in the garbage and get some real meat. :p *sigh* Now I'm going to crave lamb kebabs all day--not that I don't anyway. :( (Is one good Middle Eastern restaurant in my city too much to ask?)
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New question: You make plans with someone and then they don't show up. What verb(s) would you use to describe what they did?

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Boringly, "not show up".

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KathTheDragon wrote:Boringly, "not show up".
I would probably use the same. I would also accept "flake out," "ghost," and "stand me up."

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