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Here is a thread for translations of texts translated from other languages into our conlangs (or into other natlangs if you wish). I figured I needed a better place for my translations of the Lord's Prayer and the Seven Kill Stele than the conlang fluency thread.

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Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

Xeru-də=k'ə=zə Tåz-ni,
heaven-DEF.S.M=LOC=ATTR father-1.P
[xeɾuˈdɐkʼɐzɐ ˈtʰɔzni]
Our Father who art in heaven,

kih-yi=no səllə-se-n-yin-še.
name-2.S.M=PAT holy-CAUS-IPFV-3.S.F-SJV
[ˈkʰihjino sɐlːɐˈsenjinɕe]
Hallowed be thy name.

Ts'əy-yi law-še.
kingdom-2.S.M come.PFV-SJV
[ˈtsʼɐjːi ˈlæwɕe]
Thy kingdom come.

Kuha-yi la-y-še
will-2.S.M do.PFV-3.S.M-SJV
[ˈkʰuhæji ˈlæjɕe]
Thy will be done

xeru-də=k'ə ġá-yə row=lo lox-də=k'ə.
heaven-DEF.S.M=LOC exist.IPFV-3.S.M way=INST earth-DEF.S.M=LOC
[xeˈɾudɐkʼɐ ˈɣɑjɐ ˈɾowlo ˈloxdɐkʼɐ]
on earth as it is in heaven.

Nit=tša k'aw-t-e əts'id-ni k'o duz=k'ə he-ri,
1.P=DAT day-ADJ-S.F bread-1.P day PROX.S.F=LOC give-3.S.F
[ˈnitʰtɕʰæ ˈkʼæwtʰe ˈɐtsʼidni ˈkʼo ˈduzkʼɐ ˈheɾi]
Give us this day our daily bread,

nit=tša rəx-tsə-l-ni neha-ri,
1.P=DAT trespass.IPFV-GER-P.F-1.P forgive-3.S.F
[ˈnitʰtɕʰæ ˈɾɐxtsʰɐlni ˈnehæɾi]
and forgive us our trespasses,

nit=tšak' rəxə-l-wu=zə ts'ir neha-n-lå-wo row=lo,
1.P=ALL trespass.IPFV-PFV-3.P.M=REL DIST.3.P.M forgive-IPFV-1.P-3.P.M way=INST
[ˈnitʰtɕʰækʼ ˈɾɐxɐlwuzɐ ˈtsʼiɾ neˈhænlɔwo ˈɾowlo]
as we forgive those who trespass against us,

əts box-tsə=tšak' šu šåk-ni,
and tempt.PFV-GER=ALL NEG lead-1.P
[ɐtsʰ ˈboxtsʰɐtɕʰækʼ ɕu ˈɕɔkʰni]
and lead us not into temptation,

əts hare=k'əl rey gəb-ni.
and evil=ABL rather save-1.P
[ɐtsʰ ˈhæɾekʼɐl ˈɾej ˈgɐbni]
but deliver us from evil.

(This is not typical Old Laqar, because Old Laqar is normally pretty strongly left-branching and SOV, and yet to follow the traditional (English) wording used here I needed to right-branch in places. This is also why I omitted the doxology, because I would have had to change the wording around significantly from the English wording I was following.)

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Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

Xeru-də tol-yam yər-it key=tšak' lah-na-y-wo.
heaven-DEF.S.M many-P.M thing-P.M front=ALL bring-IPFV-3.S.M-3.P.M
[ˈxeɾudɐ ˈtʰoljæm ˈjɐɾitʰ ˈkʰejtɕʰækʼ ˈlæhnæjwo]
Heaven brings forth innumerable things to nurture man.

Xeru-də=tša ts'ü=tšak' liġ-tsə=tša=zə may-ə=zə yår šu ġəla=tša ġá-yə.
heaven-DEF.S.M=DAT back=ALL pay-GER=DAT=REL good-S.M=REL thing NEG mankind=DAT exist.IPFV-3.S.M
[ˈxeɾudɐtɕʰæ ˈtsʼytɕʰækʼ ˈliɣtsʰɐtɕʰæzɐ ˈmæjɐzɐ ˈjɔɾ ˈɕu ˈɣɐlætɕʰæ ˈɣɑjɐ]
Man has nothing good with which to recompense Heaven.

Lüy-se. Lüy-se. Lüy-se. Lüy-se. Lüy-se. Lüy-se. Lüy-se.
die-CAUS die-CAUS die-CAUS die-CAUS die-CAUS die-CAUS die-CAUS
[ˈlyjse ˈlyjse ˈlyjse ˈlyjse ˈlyjse ˈlyjse ˈlyjse]
Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.

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Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

There was a Lord's Prayer thread a long while back. I think I have a saved copy of it on my other computer, which I want to check to see how much my translation has changed between then and now, even though it's the same language ....

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Poswa:
This is a very loose translation. Both culturally and syntactically. I will give notes beneath each line. I'm not good at glossing, but I'll do my best.


Mavwatšose siplapas,
father-1ps-2e fate.rescue-GEN
Our Father in Heaven,
(This is a feministic culture. So much so, that the formal word for father is simply a derived form of the word for mother, and is one syllable longer. The word for Heaven is given the genitive, not the locative, because it is seen as a state of being rather than a place.)

šupsabepob šavvybob.
name-2ps-3.IMP revere-3.IMP
may people revere your name.
(Uses active voice, not passive.)

Šipafie tšapwi; tšes pubob,
kingdom-2ps appear-1ps.PASS-IMP divine.will-2ps-GEN enact.3ps-IMP
Your kingdom come, your good things be done
(The word for "kingdom" is gender-neutral. Tši means "divine will".)

labbios, siplapas pelu.
gravity.LOC-WHILE fate.rescue-WHILE identical
down here, as they are in Heaven.
(Heaven is not equated with the sky, but with freedom, meaning that the metaphor of gravity keeping people on Earth is still relevant.)

Tafoppub sažžas
trout-1PS-ACC-INCH-2ps.IMP today-WHILE
Give us our trout today.
(Agriculture is unknown, but fish are plentiful, and by far the largest and most nutritious available fish is the trout. I decided to leave the translation of the Gk epiousios completely out, as I mentioned in another thread.)

wa dživabambi bebbi,
and sin-1ps.BEC-2p-IMP forgive-2p-IMP
and forgive us after we sin against you,
(The becausative here is rather like "clean" ---> "clean up after".)

dživažombos bebabos.
sin-1ps.PASS-BEC-1ps-WHILE forgive-1ps-WHILE
as we forgive people after they sin against us.

Tša žapam pimappepwi
next bait.LOC bubble-REFL-NEG-1ps.PASS.IMP
Don't lead us into temptation
(I'm not sure what to do here. There are three different translations of this sentence, and I have no more standing than anyone to tell which is the closest to the original. I decided to stick close to home and go with the translation I learned in school.)

Putše wibum žapožwub
choice-2ps evil-LOC rescue-2ps.IMP
Instead rescue us from evil.

Tši.
divine.will
Amen.

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Sunàqʷa the Sea Lamprey says:

Nexå-də k'itš-wə=k'ə=zə Wika ket-yet=tša=zə Keya te,
sky-DEF.S.M under-3.S.M=LOC=REL light_being king-P.M=DAT=REL ring three
[ˈnexɒdɐ ˈkʼitɕʰwɐkʼɐzɐ ˈwikʰæ ˈkʰetʰjetʰtɕʰæzɐ ˈkʰejæ ˈtʰe]
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,

Ǝts'a råw-yit-wo=k'ə=zə Lawə šey-et=tša=zə kan əts páġ,
stone hall-P.M-3.P.M=LOC=REL earth_being lord-P.M=DAT=REL two and five
[ˈɐtsʼæ ˈɾɔwjitʰwokʼɐzɐ ˈlæwɐ ˈɕejetʰtɕʰæzɐ ˈkʰæn ɐtsʰ ˈpʰɑɣ]
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,

Lüy-tsə=tša hoxe-wat-əm=zə Lüy-yod-əm=zə Mol-it=tša=zə li əts páġ,
die-GER=DAT doom-PART.PASS-P.M=REL die-PART.ACT-P.M=REL person-P.M=DAT=REL four and five
[ˈlyjtsʰɐtɕʰæ hoˈχewætʰɐmzɐ ˈlyjːodɐmzɐ ˈmolitʰtɕʰæzɐ ˈli ɐtsʰ ˈpʰɑɣ]
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,

Gåw-e=zə k'uh-wə=k'ə=zə Gåw-ə=zə Šey-də=tša=zə såx
dark-S.F=REL chair-3.S.M=LOC=REL dark-S.M=REL lord-DEF.S.M=DAT=REL one
[ˈgɔwezɐ ˈkʼuhwɐkʼɐzɐ ˈgɔwɐzɐ ˈɕejdɐtɕʰæzɐ sɔx]
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne

Ukə-l-dim kin-rå mawe=k'ə=zə Murdor-de Nora-de=k'ə.
shadow-P.F-DEF.P.F lie.IPFV-3.P.F place=LOC=REL Mordor-DEF.3.S.F land-DEF.3.S.F=LOC
[ˈʔukʰɐldim ˈkʰinɾɔ ˈmæwekʼɐzɐ ˈmuɾdoɾde ˈnoɾædekʼɐ]
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

Kå-yəm=zə dar=no nuk'a-ts-wo=tša=zə Keya Såx, dar=no ġå-ts-wo=tša=zə Keya Såx,
all-P.M=REL 3.P.M=PAT rule.IPFV-GER-3.P.M=DAT=REL ring one 3.P.M=PAT find.PFV-GER-3.P.M=DAT=REL ring one
[ˈkʰɔjɐmzɐ ˈdæɾno ˈnukʼætsʰwotɕʰæzɐ ˈkʰejæ ˈsɔx | ˈdæɾno ˈɣɔtsʰwotɕʰæzɐ ˈkʰejæ ˈsɔx]
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,

Kå-yəm=zə dar=no lah-ts-wo əts k'on-de=k'ə məkna-ts-wo=tša=zə Keya Såx
all-P.M=REL 3.P.M=PAT bring.PFV-GER-3.P.M and darkness-DEF.S.M=LOC bind.PFV-GER-3.P.M=DAT=REL ring one
[ˈkʰɔjɐmzɐ ˈdæɾno ˈlæhtsʰwo ɐtsʰ ˈkʼondekʼɐ ˈmɐkʰnætsʰwotɕʰæzɐ ˈkʰejæ ˈsɔx]
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

Ukə-l-dim kin-rå mawe=k'ə=zə Murdor-de Nora-de=k'ə.
shadow-P.F-DEF.P.F lie.IPFV-3.P.F place=LOC=REL Mordor-DEF.3.S.F land-DEF.3.S.F=LOC
[ˈʔukʰɐldim ˈkʰinɾɔ ˈmæwekʼɐzɐ ˈmuɾdoɾde ˈnoɾædekʼɐ]
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

Di Towa de Bebl

An olda wohl af wan wan langwic, an olda man tok sem.
An it apn wen dem johni ota Is, dem fayn don plen de lan kol Cinah, an dem ste dis pah ya.
An dem tok pon wanada se: "Geda, minu les mek kle ston, an bek dem gut gut. An dem yus kle ston fi ston, an tah fi mohta.
An dem tok se: "Geda, minu les bil bikton an towa af top im kac skay, an les nem imsef fi no pah gon twoh olda pah a wohl.
An di Loh kom don ota di Ebn fi luk pon bikton ya an towa ya a dem cayl a man re bil.
An di Loh tok se: "Luk pon dis, dem man ya a geda, an ol a dem af wan wan langwic: an a dis dem sta mek, an sta taym ya a olda mata dem tingk op dem me mek.
So mi les kom don an komfon fi langwic, so dem in cende wanada tok no longga."
So di Loh pah dem gon ota pah ya sta taym ya, twoh olda pah a wohl; an dem ol bil bikton ya.
Kos dis im ya kol Bebl, kos de im ya di Loh komfon di wan wan langwic a olda wohl; an ota im ya di Loh pah dem gon twoh olda pah a wohl.


JAL

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Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

Dsile ira nama ku arok nai ed kilai sor, ni ap te nôma pin.
heaven CL(big) many NEG number CL(abstract) SUB give to.them, human CL(human) 3SG.OBJ feed should
Heaven brings forth innumerable things to nurture man.

The phrase nama ku arok, glossed as many NEG number, should be interpreted as something along the lines of "so many that it is not a number", i.e. "innumerable". The particle ed in this and the next sentence indicates that a subordinate clause follows. The third-person object pronoun te can also be used as an object marker, as it is in this text.

Ku ni ap pige ed loka, dsile te aihu kilai era.
NEG human CL(human) nothing SUB have, heaven 3SG.OBJ thank give can
Man has nothing with which to recompense heaven.

Aihu kilai basically means "return a favour".

Rhomu môt. Rhomu môt. Rhomu môt. Rhomu môt. Rhomu môt. Rhomu môt. Rhomu môt.
dead make
Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.

One might shorten this saying rhomu only the first time and implying it the other six times.

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Bearlandic - Kunesian - Nåmúþ

Hwam yai ndruy qha thie tshau syeŋ ńa hwiek ndyok ńaŋ.
sky DEF carry.IPFV DED thing PL.INAM count.IPFV NEG go_towards.IPFV nurture.IPFV people
[ʍaɴ jɛ ɳdʐyj qʰa tʰie̯ tsʰɑ sjɤɴ ɲa ʍɯɤ̯ʔ ndjoʔ ɲɑɴ]
Heaven brings forth innumerable things to nurture man.

Thie dyaŋ he goy qha ndźuk ńaŋ ŋgyoh syak Hwam yai.
thing good NEG exist.IPFV DED BEN.IPFV people pay.IPFV back sky DEF
[tʰie̯ djɑɴ he gøj qʰa ɲdʑuʔ ɲɑɴ ŋgjoh sjɑʔ ʍaɴ jɛ]
Man has nothing good with which to recompense Heaven.

Ruo. Ruo. Ruo. Ruo. Ruo. Ruo. Ruo.
dead dead dead dead dead dead dead
[ɻuo̯ ɻuo̯ ɻuo̯ ɻuo̯ ɻuo̯ ɻuo̯ ɻuo̯]
Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.

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Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

How's "dead" become "kill"? Yes, both may be nouns, but dead's second usage is as an adjective while kill's is as a transitive verb.

"Second usage"? You for real? Trolling much?


JAL

I worded to incorrectly, but that's no reason to call me a troll. I'm asking because "dead" can be either a noun or an adjective while "kill" can be either a noun or a verb ("to kill").

Your wording, as the wording of the above, displays a profound lack of insight into how languages can work, combined with the apparent believe that English is the measure of how languages work (and I doubt you even understand how English works, with regards to nominalized adjectives and otherwise). Don't you understand at all how profoundly daft it is to say "I don't understand how word X in your language can be transcrived as Y because that's not how it works in English"???


JAL

Point.

Simple - in Old Zlang imperfective intransitive verbs (which "adjectives" are in Old Zlang) have the second, transitive usage with a causative meaning (and naturally the causative of "dead" is "kill"). In my translation you refer to, I did not add the antipassive marker so as to specify this particular meaning because I figured it would be implicit from context (but to be less ambiguous I could have added it).

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Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

"Don't dead me!" he screamed, but he deaded him anyway.

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Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific
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MY MUSIC

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Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.