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Is it? Good! Although I kind of pronounce aoi [yi].

And you know, don't be afraid of correcting what I try to say in Irish :oops:

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Cool!
Hey I have a question. I tried translating a phrase, and then i came across a few problems.

English: Jesus was my copilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him.

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Irish: B'?osa mo choph?ol?ta ach bhuaileamar in ?adan Andessl?ibhte agus bh? orm ? a ithe

1. I didn't know the word for copilote. So I remembered, usually, compound words lenate the following word.
2. Now I didn't knwo which word to use for crash in relation to a plane. I saw the verb tuairte?il, but I couldn't conjugate it right so I used a simpler verb, or so I thought.
3.The preposition in ?adan was unknown to me. I know you say "in burbh n-?adan" to say against you. But I don't undersatnd. It seems to me like it uses genitive with nouns (in ?adan bhfir?). I don't understand either why the -i changes to -in here.
4. I don't know the name of The Andes, so I thought I'd use the word Andes and then add sleibhe (or sliabh?) So I wrote Andessl?ibhte, hoping it would be genitive plural.

And that's it. I would apreciate some inlightenment!

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Damn! I knew it! I just forgot since it took me so long to write the phrase! The copula always takes ?/?! Sometimes even twice!

So as a whole it should be?

B'? ?osa mo chomh-ph?ol?ta ach bhuaileamar isteach sna Sl?ibhte na n-Aind?is agus bh? orm ? a ithe
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And while I'm at it.
Is this right?
English: Laughter is proper to man/is unique to man/is particular to.
Irish: T? g?ire d?lis don fhear.
Is beacht better than d?lis?

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Uell!
Faic ?r an tseachtain seo!
T? an scoil nua go hiontach go f?ill!
B?onn a l?n spraoi agam a bheith le mo chairde ann.
Ach t? m?r?n oibre bhaile agam a dh?anamh. T? n?os m? oibre ann n? ag an scoil ?ile. Ach is mar sin f?in ? an scoil seo francach, d? bhr? sin t? s? n?os fusa ann, i bhFraincis, i mo dteanga dh?chais n? ag mo sh?anscoil a bh? i dteanga na namhad, i
mB?arla!

Ach b?m in ?sle br? beag?n go d?ireanach mar b?onn fonn ?irithe as na h?oslainn agam. T? s? mar a bheinn go dona aici. Ach t? a fhios agam nach bhfuil.


That's enough! Had a struggle with comparative adjectives. Had never looked into them :oops: . Yet another complicated system of things and n? and is and m? and l?.

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I thought I'd record myself.
But I think I can't pronounce scoil.
I say it in like three different ways.
Oh and I also say franach instead of francach...:oops:

Anyways! It's fun because it's literally the first time (or second?) that I speak Irish. I mean, speak speak.

So have fun. It's really nothing though...probably awful!
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Oh...I can't upload it. Later maybe .

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Are short vowels in a monosyllabic word pronounced as if they are stressed or unstressed? For example, is fear pronounced /f_jar/ or /f_j@r/? If they aren't, then fear is possibly an irregularly spelt member of the first declension.

Also, is the question particle an in any way related to the copula? Or is it just coincidence?

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Hehe, No no. That's the last thing I would ever do!

Ok so here is what I shall try to say.

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Faic ?r an tseachtain seo!
T? an scoil nua go hiontach go f?ill!
B?onn a l?n spraoi agam a bheith le mo chairde ann.
Ach t? m?r?n oibre bhaile agam le dh?anamh. T? n?os m? oibre ann n? ag an scoil ?ile. Ach is mar sin f?in ? an scoil seo francach, d? bhr? sin t? s? n?os fusa ann, i bhFraincis, i mo theanga dh?chais n? ag mo sh?anscoil a bh? i dteanga na namhad, i mB?arla!

Ach n?lim ag moth? r?-mhaith le d?ana?, mar b?onn fonn ?irithe as na ?oslainnis agam. T? s? mar a bheinn go dona aici. Ach t? a fhios agam nach bhfuil.


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is it so bad? :oops:

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I remember when learning Scottish, they would pronounce ainn (againn maybe?) like [a?n] or something. Which is abit like [aun]

But do you know where the people in the recordings I own might come form, knowing they say "inniuv" and "'Bhfuil" (not An bhfuil)?

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