Cadhinorian phonotactics
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- Avisaru
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Cadhinorian phonotactics
Don't you think words like PELEGUT and SNUCET totally ruin the classical Graeco-Latin effect? Or was Zompist deliberately aiming for a more Balto-Slavic sound so as to break the stereotype?
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While some of Zompist's languages can be reminiscent of a terrestrial language, I don't think any of them attempt to fully capture the phonotactics and aesthetics of any earth language. Cuezi and Flaidish are probably the two which come closest (particularly Flaidish), but in both cases there's a large degree of difference.
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I for one certainly wouldn't want Almean languages to "fully capture" the essence of any single terrestrial language. It's just that in my opinion, words like PELEGUT push Cadhinorian phototactics a good couple of light years away from the classical European aesthetic ideal. I have no problem with that whatsoever. I'm just wondering about Zompist's goals in fixing the phonology of Cadhinor.Dewrad wrote:While some of Zompist's languages can be reminiscent of a terrestrial language, I don't think any of them attempt to fully capture the phonotactics and aesthetics of any earth language. Cuezi and Flaidish are probably the two which come closest (particularly Flaidish), but in both cases there's a large degree of difference.
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Sure, but that doesn't necessarily determine what Cadhinor had to sound like. If you wanted to infuse a feeling of classical antiquity, you could have easily had most modern Central languages descend from a common ancestor, maybe a prakritized Middle Cadhinor, itself a descendant or sister language of a (unstable?) standard register, Classical Cadhinor. I haven't studied the Proto-Eastern page in detail, but it couldn't have been very hard to derive snuga form, say, a slang form of SUNCET or something. Just saying; I like Cadhinor.zompist wrote:There's no intention to make Cadhinor very close to Latin, and in fact it would be quite difficult given the heavy Russian influence on Verdurian.
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How so? PELEGUT doesn't sound that non-European to me. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in a Latinish text.rotting ham wrote:It's just that in my opinion, words like PELEGUT push Cadhinorian phototactics a good couple of light years away from the classical European aesthetic ideal.
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nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
What Earth language is Cuezi particularly reminiscent of?Dewrad wrote:While some of Zompist's languages can be reminiscent of a terrestrial language, I don't think any of them attempt to fully capture the phonotactics and aesthetics of any earth language. Cuezi and Flaidish are probably the two which come closest (particularly Flaidish), but in both cases there's a large degree of difference.
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Sure, in Portuguese.Nortaneous wrote:How so? PELEGUT doesn't sound that non-European to me. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in a Latinish text.
I love the word SNUCET, by the way. It sounds like schnook-eth. As in, "The son, to his father, schnooketh."
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