Yucopia Project (Massive, Collaborative, and Recruiting New)

[Nannalu]

That's landlocked.

And yes you can.

[Torco]

Charu's prayer in Chalmean

“The water falls from the sky, lands in the river, and is drunk by man
Hàmi je da dochel, bâhu dugur gewà, kûwdoj tilónlu miná
Wáter fall out-of sky, arrives on river, and man drinks [it]

The gecko hatches from its egg, mates on the palm frond, and is eaten by the condor
Djidjewàr reje tohomchí, xodum pè dèr, kûwdoj kula ku
Lizard comes-out-of egg, has-sex over [the] folliage, and condor eats [it]

will finish it.

[Cockroach]

Cheru was a great king, and ruled for many years. Word of his kingdom grew, and people flocked from all over to come to him and learn from him. The stories of his wisdom are innumerable, however, and while I would like to, I am afraid I cannot tell them all, so I will be content with the most dramatic of the stories: Cheru’s downfall.

After [Tabêt] was founded, Lôká left for the northeast, to spread his newfound joviality. Before he left, however, he saw to it that Cheru was married to his three daughters: Hawé, Kelî, and Góxì. Cheru had sex with Hawé and Kelî, but Góxì, the youngest, had a thick hymen, and every time Cheru tried to penetrate her she would scream. Thus, she stayed a virgin.

As time went on, Hawé and Kelî both bore Cheru many children, but Góxì remained childless. Seeing the happiness of her sisters, Góxì grew more and more jealous each and every year. Finally, after 20 years, Kelî became a grandmother. At this Góxì ran out into the jungle until she was all alone and cursed Hawé, Kelî, Cheru, and nature itself, vowing that by her own pure strength, she would correct what the universe had gotten wrong.

(Part 3 will be up when I can think of a good revenge. Torco, feel free to write your own ending)

[Lukas Kelly]

Oh, never mind then. How do you feel about a Mathematician?

[Torco]

Oh, never mind then. How do you feel about a Mathematician?

I've always thought of Bawám as sort of a knowledge center, so yeah, it should have mathematicians and engineers and chemists and stuff

[Lukas Kelly]

]Early Life
Bavall [ba'vaɬ], was born in the City-State of Bawám some time during the ancient era. Raised as the illegitimate child of a Chalmean-Sbakaz mother and a full-blooded Tll-Ikish father, he would work as a dock hand to help support his Mother. Feeling as if he had no racial identity and being exposed to Sbakaz technologies being brought in and out of the port, were formative to his career as a mathematician, engineer, and philosopher. After saving up money, he sought out education, but the closest craft he could learn to the Sbakaz engineering was the abstract mathematics. After becoming proficient in the basics discovered at the time, and took interest in the Geometry of Djamele.

Mid-Life
Being driven by the notion that he had no racial identity, and that he must forge his own, he began to develop his mathematics. While playing with a circle and a triangle, he inadvertently discovered a cone, and began to develop the formulas needed to describe it. For nearly a year, he rarely left his house and became absolutely enthralled by this new shape, barely seen in Bawám, if it appeared there at all during the era. After the much study, he discovered the four conic sections, and began to study their properties. Bavall began to ponder their usage, after all, no idea would be used or remembered if there was no purpose to them. After continuous study, searching for a practical purpose, he was led back to engineering. Using the formulas for the parabola, he developed a tool that appeared to be a half of a circle, standing upright. Soldiers operating any indirect fire weapons (such as a catapult) was able to move a stick to the proper angle, and pull it in or push out to represent the weight of the object. Effectively, one could figure out where an object would approximately land when launched to some degree. Despite this, he couldn't figure the energy into the equation, and the constant that was Gravity eluded him for the rest of his life. On top of that, he also used parabolic sheets of metal to amplify a fire's light, creating the first lanterns and light-houses.

Later Years
In his later years, he became famous throughout Bawám and gained several pupils who continued his studies. But before he died, he established the use of domes (only the concept, as they were not able to construct them yet) and of acoustical focal points in an ellipse. There is a story that when he was in one of these buildings, examining its structure, he was attacked by a drunk. As the drunk walked through the focal point, Bavall let out a yell and the focal points made it seem as if he was yelling in his ear, stunning the drunk for a few seconds so guards could react. As he became an old man, and his mind faded to much to continue his studies, he had his pupils learn two maxims, which they were told to pass onto society. The first, was that only good can come from studies, and the good can only come from studies. The second, was that the secret to immortality was legacy, and creating something someone would remember.

Notes[/]
Throughout his career, Bavall was able to apply tremendous amounts of focus and time to accomplish a single problem, and his switching between fields and interests had led people to modern experts to believe that he had ADD, which would cause him to lose interest in things that didn't provide value to him and to focus intensely on a single subject. Regardless, he has left impressions upon the society of Bawám, most notably among the Ethnically mixed who see him as a hero, and sailors and overseas traders who thought of him as something akin to a patron saint of protection (because the light house would mean safety and would guide people into harbors).




Anything I should add?

[Torco]

I dunno... a bit more about him as a person? his politics? his ethics? the ethics and politics of his followers and the social consequences thereof? or just what you want

It's cool how you integrated Djamele into the whole thing. We're starting to weave the region together.

[Lukas Kelly]

I'll get that in tomorrow, so consider it a rough draft. I have to get some sleep.

[Cockroach]

[treskro]

[Lyhoko Leaci]

It seems odd how advanced everyone is getting, considering that I though that this was supposed to be prehistory now... unless these tropical regions are the equivalent of Ancient Egypt and the fertile crescent regions of Earth, where civilization started.

Hmm.. I wonder what sort of stuff could pop up in other regions...

[Lukas Kelly]

It seems odd how advanced everyone is getting, considering that I though that this was supposed to be prehistory now... unless these tropical regions are the equivalent of Ancient Egypt and the fertile crescent regions of Earth, where civilization started.

Hmm.. I wonder what sort of stuff could pop up in other regions...

This actually happened about this era in our world. The Phoenicians were an economic power on the sea, and spread culture, writing, and other things to far-flung areas of the world. The Sbakaz have done a very similar thing, with Bawám as Alexandria, becoming the center of culture and Economy.

[Torco]

It seems odd how advanced everyone is getting, considering that I though that this was supposed to be prehistory now... unless these tropical regions are the equivalent of Ancient Egypt and the fertile crescent regions of Earth, where civilization started.

Hmm.. I wonder what sort of stuff could pop up in other regions...

This actually happened about this era in our world. The Phoenicians were an economic power on the sea, and spread culture, writing, and other things to far-flung areas of the world. The Sbakaz have done a very similar thing, with Bawám as Alexandria, becoming the center of culture and Economy.

Indeed... Even Chalmea, which is kind of advanced in that it has ships and cities and stuff, has like a 90% rural population, and most people use wooden tools for farming. It's just there are vanguards.

Which reminds me... I should develop the non-vanguards... or maybe we should take the leap ?

[Lukas Kelly]

Early Life
Bavall [ba'vaɬ], was born in the City-State of Bawám some time during the ancient era. Raised as the illegitimate child of a Chalmean-Sbakaz mother and a full-blooded Tll-Ikish father, he would work as a dock hand to help support his Mother. Feeling as if he had no racial identity and being exposed to Sbakaz technologies being brought in and out of the port, were formative to his career as a mathematician, engineer, and philosopher. After saving up money, he sought out education, but the closest craft he could learn to the Sbakaz engineering was the abstract mathematics. After becoming proficient in the basics discovered at the time, and took interest in the Geometry of Djamele.

Mid-Life
Being driven by the notion that he had no racial identity, and that he must forge his own, he began to develop his mathematics. While playing with a circle and a triangle, he inadvertently discovered a cone, and began to develop the formulas needed to describe it. For nearly a year, he rarely left his house and became absolutely enthralled by this new shape, barely seen in Bawám, if it appeared there at all during the era. After the much study, he discovered the four conic sections, and began to study their properties. Bavall began to ponder their usage, after all, no idea would be used or remembered if there was no purpose to them. After continuous study, searching for a practical purpose, he was led back to engineering. Using the formulas for the parabola, he developed a tool that appeared to be a half of a circle, standing upright. Soldiers operating any indirect fire weapons (such as a catapult) was able to move a stick to the proper angle, and pull it in or push out to represent the weight of the object. Effectively, one could figure out where an object would approximately land when launched to some degree. Despite this, he couldn't figure the energy into the equation, and the constant that was Gravity eluded him for the rest of his life. On top of that, he also used parabolic sheets of metal to amplify a fire's light, creating the first lanterns and light-houses.

Later Years
In his later years, he became famous throughout Bawám and gained several pupils who continued his studies. But before he died, he established the use of domes (only the concept, as they were not able to construct them yet) and of acoustical focal points in an ellipse. There is a story that when he was in one of these buildings, examining its structure, he was attacked by a drunk. As the drunk walked through the focal point, Bavall let out a yell and the focal points made it seem as if he was yelling in his ear, stunning the drunk for a few seconds so guards could react. As he became an old man, and his mind faded to much to continue his studies, he had his pupils learn two maxims, which they were told to pass onto society. The first, was that only good can come from studies, and the good can only come from studies. The second, was that the secret to immortality was legacy, and creating something someone would remember. This became a lasting call to action for the lower class mixed race who were thought of as lesser. Politically, he applied his same two maxims, believing the a government has a duty to provide education to anyone who wants to learn a field. He would assert that in doing so, we would "Increase our mass of talent, and our ability to move forward". With his students, he not only emphasized learning itself, but taught them methods to remain in their studies, and to absorb content more efficiently. One of the things he would do, is he would look for people that had problems doing something, and command his pupils to come up with a mechanical solution for it, with the simplest option being the best. Very few of the inventions made by his pupils during that time were remembered and reproduced, but several other had created things when they were studying on their own. One notable creation was the implementation of a lock onto a Sbakaz style door(slides up and down, and is pulled up by a pressure switch), to create a storage for supplies or items a merchant wants to keep protected.


Notes
Throughout his career, Bavall was able to apply tremendous amounts of focus and time to accomplish a single problem, and his switching between fields and interests had led people to modern experts to believe that he had ADD, which would cause him to lose interest in things that didn't provide value to him and to focus intensely on a single subject. Regardless, he has left impressions upon the society of Bawám, most notably among the Ethnically mixed who see him as a hero, and sailors and overseas traders who thought of him as something akin to a patron saint of protection (because the light house would mean safety and would guide people into harbors). There is also a university that is currently run by men that were in the direct line of succession in mentorships to Bavall himself who carry on his tradition today. Generally, he was described as having the tendency to be abrasive towards his students while amicably shy towards other. But he was still very much loved by his students for the wisdom and life teachings they learned from him, and it was said his harsh speech was only to push them to greater things, and that he would at times show a soft spot. He never married or had an affair with a woman because he lacked time for romance.

[Torco]

A passionate jerk savant mathematician with a "we must educate teh people" ethics... I like it, and I love the idea of a University of Bawám [ Tásdotoxu Bawámlo in Chalmean, just edited the city's page ]

[Lyhoko Leaci]

I wonder what could pop up among the Caron... or maybe the Qhalqon instead, which are closer to all the other action that is already going on.

How does the notable person thing work? Should I create a parson for someone else, wait for someone to make one for me and then make one for someone else, something else?

We could take a leap, but then others might get behind... though most of the others seem to be on other continents, and not all continents are likely to advance at the same rate...

[Lukas Kelly]

Pretty much. You make an agreement with a person to create a great person for them as they create a great person for you.

[Lyhoko Leaci]

The question is, who... Cockroach, maybe, though he already is doing one, though having multiple notable people in that region is probably quite likely... Or maybe Absolem or treskro3, they haven't done this yet... I'm too tired to think of any ideas right now, though, maybe tomorrow. Be nice if I could figure out who before then, though.

[treskro]

I could work on yours, although I'll have to read up on your culture first. I also have a person that I just started an article for.

[Cockroach]

I hit kinda a roadblock on Cheru (I'm not giving up though), and I'd be more than happy to create a Slavasko or Caron person. I'm also thinking of doing a Tll-Ikish culture test

And of course, I have to start on my poor, neglected people on Ibabaw

[Lyhoko Leaci]

On a side note, it's now "Slavasco." There's also some more information on the wiki of them, if you wish to create a person for them. Though there still are a couple gaps... The Caron and the Qhalqon have much the same culture, just different environments, and are more settled down than the Slavasco, and I already have most of the information for them down.

Meanwhile, I'll see what I can think of for Ezperta.

[Torco]

Pretty much. You make an agreement with a person to create a great person for them as they create a great person for you.

I always thought it was like a one-way deal... I really could make another one, though, since Djamele got such a good reception... how about a genocidal warlord for you, treskro?

Finally, I put the following idea to you all: we need more conflict!

After all, yucopia seems to be too benign, and in the real world[s?] people kill each other. How about your guys invade the southern tip of Chalmea, Lukas? we can resolve things with a game

[vec]

Can I join in? Can I put my avrelang someplace? An average language for some average peoples.

[Cockroach]

Go right ahead! We love new recruits

I agree with Torco on conflict, but most of the conflict I'll be creating will be between Tll States, until Khshkhd's rise to power at least

BTW I'm still working on the writing system, but I'm stuck on how to do ideograms without ripping off existing systems. Torco, if there's anything you need for your abugida, let me know.

[Torco]

some 30 logograms for religious things that begin with different syllables should be enough

Also, don't be afraid to use drawing combinations; like a sun means day and a little penis means man and a penis and a sun means an employee [day+man=guy that works and gets paid by day => laborer by metonymy] or somesuch.

I agree with Torco on conflict, but most of the conflict I'll be creating will be between Tll States, until Khshkhd's rise to power at least

Until you get to know the famous State-Sponsored Chalmean Terrorists