I believe that that should be "is the most common"... is the commonest...
At least, that is how I was raised to think about it.
I believe that that should be "is the most common"... is the commonest...
Legion wrote:[triangular slavery] > [african polyrythms] + [western folk music] (+ (sometimes) [western art music]) = [biggest explosion in diversity since the Cambrian]
Seconded, although I'm biased toward synthetic forms. I think, however, that, "most common," is favored by some prescriptivists and amongst younger speakers of General American, for whom the synthetic superlative seems largely moribund.finlay wrote:I think commonest is right...
Legion wrote:[triangular slavery] > [african polyrythms] + [western folk music] (+ (sometimes) [western art music]) = [biggest explosion in diversity since the Cambrian]
Generally speaking, that's true, but there are exceptions like "happier". Is it something to do with Germanic roots?Guitarplayer wrote:I learned in school that -est, -er are most common with monosyllabic adjectives. If the word gets longer than two syllables by adding comparison suffixes, you use the analytic form.
It might also be that bisyllabic adjectives ending in -y tend to use the synthetic forms; I seem to recall something like that given as a rule in school. Then again, our English teachers also taught us that you can never use if and would in the same clause, that the -'s possessive clitic (or "es-genitive" as it was called) is only used with nouns referring to people, and that Jesus is the True Hero of Christmas. So it might be that this, too, is worth taking with a few grains of salt.Rory wrote:Generally speaking, that's true, but there are exceptions like "happier". Is it something to do with Germanic roots?Guitarplayer wrote:I learned in school that -est, -er are most common with monosyllabic adjectives. If the word gets longer than two syllables by adding comparison suffixes, you use the analytic form.
Zompist's Markov generator wrote:it was labelled" orange marmalade," but that is unutterably hideous.
Which is still a bigger difference than that between , say T6 and T7C. And it's different what bricka put in already.cedh audmanh wrote:Which is basically S9 with slightly fronted /ɨ u/ and an additional open-mid central vowel.jmcd wrote:Also I would say this is more like Scottish English:Code: Select all
i ʉ ɪ e ə o ɛ ʌ ɔ a
Well, you're still referring to "Lappish" which, as has been pointed out, isn't a language, but rather (an outdated and at present somewhat politically incorrect name for) a whole group of languages, which, incidentally, feature a whole bunch of different vowel systems. The T6 system is apparently found in Kildin Sami.Nancy Blackett wrote:Definitely no more changes now unless they're mistakes or typos.
Oops - I forgot about that.Xonen wrote:Well, you're still referring to "Lappish" which, as has been pointed out, isn't a language, but rather (an outdated and at present somewhat politically incorrect name for) a whole group of languages, which, incidentally, feature a whole bunch of different vowel systems. The T6 system is apparently found in Kildin Sami.Nancy Blackett wrote:Definitely no more changes now unless they're mistakes or typos.
I don't remember. I've removed it now anyway.Xonen wrote:Also, Wikipedia lists ten vowels for Somali; what's your source for the seven-vowel system?
When you can show me an example of a cube with nine vertices, I'll consider a C9 system One of my conlangs used to have C12, but I don't know if it's worth including.Xonen wrote:Other than that, looks pretty neat. Well, I personally don't really see the need for classifying "cubic" vowel systems separately, especially since you only have examples for C8 and none for C9 or C10 (and your vowel chart for Turkish looks like it was skewed a bit to make it a better example of, uh, cubicity), but that might be just a matter of taste.
Zompist's Markov generator wrote:it was labelled" orange marmalade," but that is unutterably hideous.
I think it came from Wells's Accents of English; I'll have to check.jmcd wrote:So what's your source for the Scottish English one?
Zompist's Markov generator wrote:it was labelled" orange marmalade," but that is unutterably hideous.
How's that different from having a triangle with five or a square with seventeenNancy Blackett wrote:When you can show me an example of a cube with nine vertices, I'll consider a C9 system
I can see from the Google Books preview that it says "From a diagnostic point of view, the most important characteristic of the Scottish vowel system in its lack, as mentioned above, of a phoneme /u/."Nancy Blackett wrote:I think it came from Wells's Accents of English; I'll have to check.jmcd wrote:So what's your source for the Scottish English one?
I checked, and it was.Nancy Blackett wrote:I think it came from Wells's Accents of English; I'll have to check.jmcd wrote:So what's your source for the Scottish English one?
Zompist's Markov generator wrote:it was labelled" orange marmalade," but that is unutterably hideous.
The point is it's not and it gives the false impression of that if you use /u/ and not /ʉ/. People will think like that that foot [fʉt] has the same vowel as the one in Schule [ʃulə]. When really it's more likely to be closer to the vowel in Schüler [ˈʃyːlɐ] if anything.finlay wrote:It does have a phoneme /u/, though; to suggest otherwise would be proposterous. It's just that this isn't , or isn't near cardinal 8, however you want to put it. I mean i suppose you could call it /ʉ/, but this all depends on what point you want to make about it.