English: long sandwich
English: long sandwich
I knew the name for this type of sandwich was very divergent in English but a recent trip helped point it out. I also wonder about the influence on non-native speakers, such as their teachers.
What do you call it?
Where are you from?
Where do you live now?
What else might have influenced your choice?
Now for my answers:
What do you call it? It is a grinder but rarely it is a sub
Where are you from? Connecticut, USA
Where do you live now? Connecticut, USA
What else might have influences your choice? My mother grew up in New Hampshire
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What do you call it? Turkey breast sub sandwich with lots of veggies.
Where are you from? United States. Originally Hawaii, currently North Carolina
Where do you live now? Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany
What else might have influenced your choice? Not certain.
Where are you from? United States. Originally Hawaii, currently North Carolina
Where do you live now? Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany
What else might have influenced your choice? Not certain.
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What do you call it? A sandwich
Where are you from? France
Where do you live now? France
What else might have influenced your choice? It's a friggin sandwich
Where are you from? France
Where do you live now? France
What else might have influenced your choice? It's a friggin sandwich
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What do you call it? (English) A sub (Français) Un sandwich, un sub
Where are you from? Eastern Ontario, Canada
Where do you live now? Eastern Ontario, Canada
What else might have influenced your choice? Subway, because they're everywhere, and Quiznos (Subs)
If you wanted to get into the technical, then I've also heard of them referred to as Submarines, Submarine Sandwiches, and simply sandwiches. In Canadian French, another term would be un sous-marin. Premade sub-like sandwiches sold in regular convenience stores and grocery stores are just called sandwiches, rarely subs.
Where are you from? Eastern Ontario, Canada
Where do you live now? Eastern Ontario, Canada
What else might have influenced your choice? Subway, because they're everywhere, and Quiznos (Subs)
If you wanted to get into the technical, then I've also heard of them referred to as Submarines, Submarine Sandwiches, and simply sandwiches. In Canadian French, another term would be un sous-marin. Premade sub-like sandwiches sold in regular convenience stores and grocery stores are just called sandwiches, rarely subs.
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People seriously call that a sandwich? I used the term for clarity but I would never call that a sandwich in conversation. If someone did I would question their fluency in English. To me it would be like saying they were going for a ride in their vehicle instead of saying what type of vehicle (car, truck, motorcycle, etc).
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Yeah, that's not a sandwich for me. Sandwiches are made with flat pieces of icky sliced bread, not that kind of nice bread.
What do you call it? A sub, or maybe a baguette.
Where are you from? UK.
Where do you live now? UK.
What else might have influenced your choice? Subway, probably.
What do you call it? A sub, or maybe a baguette.
Where are you from? UK.
Where do you live now? UK.
What else might have influenced your choice? Subway, probably.
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What do you call it? (English) Sandwich; (Swedish) Smörgås. Bröd.
Where are you from? Sweden.
Where do you live now? Sweden.
What else might have influenced your choice? My immense hate for Subway and their worthless, dry sandwiches and the fact that it's a frigging sandwich. I don't suddenly call a hamburger with lettuce and tomato a Big Mac every time I speak of a hamburger with lettuce and tomato just because that's what a certain restaurant calls it. It's still a hamburger!
Where are you from? Sweden.
Where do you live now? Sweden.
What else might have influenced your choice? My immense hate for Subway and their worthless, dry sandwiches and the fact that it's a frigging sandwich. I don't suddenly call a hamburger with lettuce and tomato a Big Mac every time I speak of a hamburger with lettuce and tomato just because that's what a certain restaurant calls it. It's still a hamburger!
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Re: English: long sandwich
sub (which is subset of sandwich), TN, NY, Subway
It occurs to me that Subway is neither a restaurant (no wait staff) nor a fast food place (no drive through).
Also I'm hungry.
It occurs to me that Subway is neither a restaurant (no wait staff) nor a fast food place (no drive through).
Also I'm hungry.
Re: English: long sandwich
Sandwich, or baguette, but baguettes usually have a more specific shape.
If it's from Subway it's a "Subway sandwich".
also it contains salad, not "veggies". that sounds like child talk.
If it's from Subway it's a "Subway sandwich".
also it contains salad, not "veggies". that sounds like child talk.
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The only sub-kinds of sandwiches I'm willing to distinguish are hamburgers, kebabs and hot-dogs. Anything else that involves two layers of bread (or a single folded or sliced layer) and food in between is a sandwitch.
Re: English: long sandwich
Usually grinder, rarely a hero, even rarelier (yay derivation) sub. Unless I'm at Subway, in which case it's a sub. (Even though the two have different etymologies ). A grinder is an individual sandwich ranging from like 5" to 14", a hero is one of those REEEEEALLY long ones that they make for catering events to serve many people.
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What do you call it? That's a sub. "Sandwich" works too.
Where are you from? Houston
Where do you live now? Houston
What else might have influenced your choice? It's clearly a sub.
Where are you from? Houston
Where do you live now? Houston
What else might have influenced your choice? It's clearly a sub.
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What do you call it? Bolognasalad/Sandwich EDIT: When they're bad, I call them Rotten Ham
Where are you from? Munich, Germany
Where do you live now? Nis (?), Serbia
What else might have influenced your choice? La Bologna Sausage meat look
Where are you from? Munich, Germany
Where do you live now? Nis (?), Serbia
What else might have influenced your choice? La Bologna Sausage meat look
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Re: English: long sandwich
hmm it seems the Europeans are more apt to call it a sandwich. Maybe because they consider baguette to be bread? For me there is a semantic distinction between bread (i.e. sliced bread) and a roll. Yes rolls may be a bread but they aren't prototypical "bread". Any sandwich on bread or non-oblong roll is just a sandwich. A sandwich on an oblong roll may technically be a sandwich but here it is called a grinder or a sub.
And yeah a grinder isn't really a grinder without the veggies, which are strictly optional on a sandwich. If someone said they were putting salad on my grinder I would cuss them out. A salad, to me, is something that sits on its own and has a dressing. I find these idea of prototyping interesting, those defining bits whose exclusion or including define the semantic boundaries of a concept. I was trying to avoid those issues by using the picture but I guess they are going to come up anyways, which is neat.
As for the comment about burgers, would you still call it a burger if it was served between 2 pieces of cake, pizza, or pancakes? They are all breads just like a french bread. Maybe we just make more distinctions here, if a burger is on a non-oblong roll it is a burger, if it is tiny it is a slider, if it is on toast and has melted cheese it is a patty melt, and if it is on an oblong roll it is a grinder. All this talk about it has made me hungry for a cheese-burger grinder.
And yeah a grinder isn't really a grinder without the veggies, which are strictly optional on a sandwich. If someone said they were putting salad on my grinder I would cuss them out. A salad, to me, is something that sits on its own and has a dressing. I find these idea of prototyping interesting, those defining bits whose exclusion or including define the semantic boundaries of a concept. I was trying to avoid those issues by using the picture but I guess they are going to come up anyways, which is neat.
As for the comment about burgers, would you still call it a burger if it was served between 2 pieces of cake, pizza, or pancakes? They are all breads just like a french bread. Maybe we just make more distinctions here, if a burger is on a non-oblong roll it is a burger, if it is tiny it is a slider, if it is on toast and has melted cheese it is a patty melt, and if it is on an oblong roll it is a grinder. All this talk about it has made me hungry for a cheese-burger grinder.
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"Meatball grinder"???Přemysl wrote:And yeah a grinder isn't really a grinder without the veggies, which are strictly optional on a sandwich. If someone said they were putting salad on my grinder I would cuss them out. A salad, to me, is something that sits on its own and has a dressing. I find these idea of prototyping interesting, those defining bits whose exclusion or including define the semantic boundaries of a concept. I was trying to avoid those issues by using the picture but I guess they are going to come up anyways, which is neat.
Or do/would you put veggies on a meatball grinder? Normally I just get mine with meatballs and cheese. Alternatively, do you not call it a "meatball grinder"?
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Crap! Just when I thought I had my own bounds figured out. You are absolutely right meatball grinders and cheese steak grinders tend to be veggieless except for *maybe* some shredded lettuce.Chibi wrote:"Meatball grinder"???
Or do/would you put veggies on a meatball grinder? Normally I just get mine with meatballs and cheese. Alternatively, do you not call it a "meatball grinder"?
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What do you call it?: en (fylld) batong (Swedish) (possibly en fylld baguette, but that would be somewhat atypical), (täyte)patonki (Finnish)
Where are you from?: Björkö (Korsholm), Finland
Where do you live now? Turku, Finland
What else might have influenced your choice?: education, contrary reaction to people calling it a subsandwich in Swedish, me having a large Swedish vocabulary by most standards. I would not use "smörgås" for it, on account of smörgås IMD being either a semla (standard swe "fralla", basically a roll) or a flat piece of bread with something on (butter is sufficient, and not even necessary, but if butter is lacking something else has to be present). Bröd wouldn't go, as bröd essentially only signifies the physical piece of bread, and not a manner of serving bread. Of course, if I said I am hungry for bread or am going to go for a bit of bread, me eating one of those isn't out of the picture - but I would never refer specifically to something like that by "bröd", and I strongly doubt skomakarn would either.
Where are you from?: Björkö (Korsholm), Finland
Where do you live now? Turku, Finland
What else might have influenced your choice?: education, contrary reaction to people calling it a subsandwich in Swedish, me having a large Swedish vocabulary by most standards. I would not use "smörgås" for it, on account of smörgås IMD being either a semla (standard swe "fralla", basically a roll) or a flat piece of bread with something on (butter is sufficient, and not even necessary, but if butter is lacking something else has to be present). Bröd wouldn't go, as bröd essentially only signifies the physical piece of bread, and not a manner of serving bread. Of course, if I said I am hungry for bread or am going to go for a bit of bread, me eating one of those isn't out of the picture - but I would never refer specifically to something like that by "bröd", and I strongly doubt skomakarn would either.
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Hamburgers aren't sandwiches.Legion wrote:The only sub-kinds of sandwiches I'm willing to distinguish are hamburgers, kebabs and hot-dogs. Anything else that involves two layers of bread (or a single folded or sliced layer) and food in between is a sandwitch.
Hot-dogs aren't even similar to sandwiches.
Kebabs.... the fuck?
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What do you call it? A sub (submarine sandwich), yes, its a type of sandwich.
Where are you from? Ohio, US
Where do you live now? Ohio, US
What else might have influenced your choice? Subway? Ich weiß nicht.
Other Notes: There are veggies in it. There is no salad in it, a salad is a separate dish that is not in something else. Burgers, and maybe hotdogs, are technically sandwiches as well, but I wouldn't call them one normally.
Where are you from? Ohio, US
Where do you live now? Ohio, US
What else might have influenced your choice? Subway? Ich weiß nicht.
Other Notes: There are veggies in it. There is no salad in it, a salad is a separate dish that is not in something else. Burgers, and maybe hotdogs, are technically sandwiches as well, but I wouldn't call them one normally.
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A sandwich, and it has salad in it. Maybe a baguette, but that tends to imply crusty bread.
And "veggies" are vegetarians, not vegetables.
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And "veggies" are vegetarians, not vegetables.
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What do you call it? A sub (sandwich)
Where are you from? Milwaukee, WI, US
Where do you live now? MD, US
What else might have influenced your choice? Nothing aside from normal usage back home.
Where are you from? Milwaukee, WI, US
Where do you live now? MD, US
What else might have influenced your choice? Nothing aside from normal usage back home.
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Same thought here.Xephyr wrote:Hamburgers aren't sandwiches.Legion wrote:The only sub-kinds of sandwiches I'm willing to distinguish are hamburgers, kebabs and hot-dogs. Anything else that involves two layers of bread (or a single folded or sliced layer) and food in between is a sandwitch.
Hot-dogs aren't even similar to sandwiches.
Kebabs.... the fuck?
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Re: English: long sandwich
As I said, we Europeans tend to call any manner of ingredients trapped between two slices of bread (or in a single slice folded in half, or in a baguette cut open, etc) a sandwich.Xephyr wrote:Hamburgers aren't sandwiches.Legion wrote:The only sub-kinds of sandwiches I'm willing to distinguish are hamburgers, kebabs and hot-dogs. Anything else that involves two layers of bread (or a single folded or sliced layer) and food in between is a sandwitch.
Hot-dogs aren't even similar to sandwiches.
Kebabs.... the fuck?
When we go to McDonalds, we ask for "un Big Mac en sandwich" ("one Big Mac as a sandwich") when we want a single Big Mac hamburger, as opposed to the Big Mac menu.
And the places that sell kebabs are called, among other things, sandwicheries.
The kind of bread doesn't matter.
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Re: English: long sandwich
What do you call it? Dutch: Stokbrood (stick-bread), English: Sandwich
Where are you from? Holland
Where do you live now? Holland
What else might have influenced your choice? To me anything consisting of two pieces of bread wth something in between is a sandwich. (Broodje in Dutch)
To me, hamburgers and hot-dogs are always sandwiches and kebabs are a boundary case, but are a bit on the negative side of the sandwich spectrum.
Where are you from? Holland
Where do you live now? Holland
What else might have influenced your choice? To me anything consisting of two pieces of bread wth something in between is a sandwich. (Broodje in Dutch)
To me, hamburgers and hot-dogs are always sandwiches and kebabs are a boundary case, but are a bit on the negative side of the sandwich spectrum.