Sound Change Game
Sound Change Game
On CBB, we have a game where we choose a word (usually long), then we transform it the way we want using IPA. It's one of the most popular thread of the forum. Not only it practices a lot IPA writing, but it also showed me new ways to change sounds in a language/conlang to derive it into another one.
Let me show you an example:
dɮɪ̈:.wʊ̈x > 't͡ɬəːvəx
(It's actually what we've come up with on CBB. Can you believe it first was /dɛ'zɑi.ɹəbɫ̩/ (desirable)? :3 )
Let's say: defenestration /difɛnəstreɪʃən/
Let me show you an example:
dɮɪ̈:.wʊ̈x > 't͡ɬəːvəx
(It's actually what we've come up with on CBB. Can you believe it first was /dɛ'zɑi.ɹəbɫ̩/ (desirable)? :3 )
Let's say: defenestration /difɛnəstreɪʃən/
Re: Sound Change Game
oh i remember we had something like this for a while which was like you had to adapt it into your conlang's phonology by borrowing. it might be better to go with that, or to specifically require people to use sound changes for their conlang, or something... the brief for this is a bit vague. for example, if you adapt 'defenestration' into the phonology of standard Sentalian, you get something like:
diifènystleecyn [diːfɛnəstɬeːɕən]
and then I can run it through the sound changes for Mybutan and get:
[diːfɛnstʃeːʃn]
diifènystleecyn [diːfɛnəstɬeːɕən]
and then I can run it through the sound changes for Mybutan and get:
[diːfɛnstʃeːʃn]
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Re: Sound Change Game
Ah yes the Conlang Telephone, that was fun.finlay wrote:oh i remember we had something like this for a while which was like you had to adapt it into your conlang's phonology by borrowing. it might be better to go with that, or to specifically require people to use sound changes for their conlang, or something... the brief for this is a bit vague. for example, if you adapt 'defenestration' into the phonology of standard Sentalian, you get something like:
diifènystleecyn [diːfɛnəstɬeːɕən]
and then I can run it through the sound changes for Mybutan and get:
[diːfɛnstʃeːʃn]
And taking your Mybutan > my Coastal Proto-Sayetic
dïhenjësyan [ə̃diːħẽʑːeːɕə̃]
(In Inland, standard, PS it would be more like [ⁿdiːɣɛⁿd͡ʑeːɕɑŋ])
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Re: Sound Change Game
Coastal Proto-Sayetic > Bomari:
[ɜndixɜnɨʒːeʃɜn]
[ɜndixɜnɨʒːeʃɜn]
After ordering a pint of his favorite ale, Robert was perplexed when the barmaid replied that the fishmonger was next door. The Great English Vowel Shift had begun.
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Bomari > Proto-Onpotcor-Qhalqon
[χentɪxɛnizːɛsen]
Proto-Onpotcor-Qhalqon > Central Qhalqon
[qʰenʧɪkʰɛnisːɛʃen]
[χentɪxɛnizːɛsen]
Proto-Onpotcor-Qhalqon > Central Qhalqon
[qʰenʧɪkʰɛnisːɛʃen]
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Re: Sound Change Game
> Coastal Proto-SayeticProto-Onpotcor-Qhalqon > Central Qhalqon
[qʰenʧɪkʰɛnisːɛʃen]
[qẽʑexẽisːeɕẽ]
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Re: Sound Change Game
There have been threads where you had to change a whole passage of text in English.finlay wrote:oh i remember we had something like this for a while which was like you had to adapt it into your conlang's phonology by borrowing. it might be better to go with that, or to specifically require people to use sound changes for their conlang, or something... the brief for this is a bit vague. for example, if you adapt 'defenestration' into the phonology of standard Sentalian, you get something like:
diifènystleecyn [diːfɛnəstɬeːɕən]
and then I can run it through the sound changes for Mybutan and get:
[diːfɛnstʃeːʃn]
Coastal Proto-Sayetic > LiuCaleone wrote:> Coastal Proto-SayeticProto-Onpotcor-Qhalqon > Central Qhalqon
[qʰenʧɪkʰɛnisːɛʃen]
[qẽʑexẽisːeɕẽ]
[ˈkesekʰeisːese] (I don't know where the stress was supposed to be, so I just placed it on the first syllable.)
Liu > yet unnamed conlang
[ˈseseʃeɪʃes]
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Re: Sound Change Game
Proto-Aukkaŋtin: [ˈtʰitʰeˈtʰð̞aɪ̯tʰð̞etʰ]Qwynegold wrote:Coastal Proto-Sayetic > Liu
[ˈkesekʰeisːese] (I don't know where the stress was supposed to be, so I just placed it on the first syllable.)
Liu > yet unnamed conlang
[ˈseseʃeɪʃes]
> Early Golden Aukkaŋtin: [ˈsiseˈslaɪ̯sles]
> Middle Golden Aukkaŋtin: [ˈsisːɬasaws]
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> Old Central Baranxe’i: [ˈtsiːts.ʰɬasaʊ̯s]
> Modern Standard Baranxe’i: [syˈʃɑːlasɒs]
pick whichever would be most interesting
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Re: Sound Change Game
Old Central Baranxe’i: [ˈtsiːts.ʰɬasaʊ̯s] > Kinál: [t͡sɨjt͡sʼɬasaɔ̯sʷ]
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Re: Sound Change Game
Kinál: [t͡sɨjt͡sʼɬasaɔ̯sʷ] > Proto-Sèferi: [ʧɨʧɨlɑsɑɔsu]
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Re: Sound Change Game
> Coastal Proto-SayeticOuagadougou wrote:Kinál: [t͡sɨjt͡sʼɬasaɔ̯sʷ] > Proto-Sèferi: [ʧɨʧɨlɑsɑɔsu]
syiuciuyasösu [ɕiut͡ɕiuːɑsosu]
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Re: Sound Change Game
> pre-Old Asuāneica: [t͡sʰi.ut͡sʰi.uː.ɑt͡sot͡su]Caleone wrote:syiuciuyasösu [ɕiut͡ɕiuːɑsosu]
> Modern Asuāneica: [syʈʂʷæcçocçu]
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Re: Sound Change Game
Proto-Arve-Gadaye: sutsüjjojjü [sɯtsuːə̯cːocːuːə̯]MisterBernie wrote:> Modern Asuāneica: [syʈʂʷæcçocçu]
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Proto-SayeticNortaneous wrote:Proto-Arve-Gadaye: sutsüjjojjü [sɯtsuːə̯cːocːuːə̯]MisterBernie wrote:> Modern Asuāneica: [syʈʂʷæcçocçu]
[sʊt͡suːɑcɑcuɑ] > Coastal Dialect [sut͡suːɤkjɤkjuɤ]
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Re: Sound Change Game
We can keep going?
Coastal Dialect: [sut͡suːɤkjɤkjuɤ] > Proto-Sèferi: [su.ʧu.u.ɘ.ki.jɘ.ki.ju.ɘ]Caleone wrote:Proto-Sayetic[sʊt͡suːɑcɑcuɑ] > Coastal Dialect [sut͡suːɤkjɤkjuɤ]
Re: Sound Change Game
Proto-Sèferi[/b]: [su.ʧu.u.ɘ.ki.jɘ.ki.ju.ɘ] > Xuáli sutcuuakiiakiiua [ˈsu.tʃu.wa.ki.ja.kɪj.wa]
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific
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Proto-Dnaric: [sɯ.k'ɯn.ɣɞ.ki.jɞ.ki.jo.ɣɞ] > Kti suhunæ:keho:æ Will doImralu wrote:Proto-Sèferi: [su.ʧu.u.ɘ.ki.jɘ.ki.ju.ɘ] > Xuáli sutcuuakiiakiiua [ˈsu.tʃu.wa.ki.ja.kɪj.wa]
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Re: Sound Change Game
Athonian [sʉˑ˦.näˑ˦.ˈkɔ:˦˥] <súnákô> > Kecykan /sn̩kɑ/ <s̃ka>Darkgamma wrote:Proto-Dnaric: [sɯ.k'ɯn.ɣɞ.ki.jɞ.ki.jo.ɣɞ] > Kti suhunæ:keho:æ Will doImralu wrote:Proto-Sèferi: [su.ʧu.u.ɘ.ki.jɘ.ki.ju.ɘ] > Xuáli sutcuuakiiakiiua [ˈsu.tʃu.wa.ki.ja.kɪj.wa]
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> Proto-Aketamsei [tʲn̩kɑ]Mr. Z wrote:Athonian [sʉˑ˦.näˑ˦.ˈkɔ:˦˥] <súnákô> > Kecykan /sn̩kɑ/ <s̃ka>
>> Modern Standard Baranxe’i [ˈʃɒːŋ]
(which exists in the lexicon, actually, as śāŋ- holy, blessed)
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Proto-SayeticMisterBernie wrote:> Proto-Aketamsei [tʲn̩kɑ]Mr. Z wrote:Athonian [sʉˑ˦.näˑ˦.ˈkɔ:˦˥] <súnákô> > Kecykan /sn̩kɑ/ <s̃ka>
>> Modern Standard Baranxe’i [ˈʃɒːŋ]
(which exists in the lexicon, actually, as śāŋ- holy, blessed)
[ɕɑʊŋ] > Coastal Dialect [sjoŋ] > Peninsular Dialect [sɪjɔ̃ɡ]
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Peninsular Dialect: [sɪjɔ̃ɡ] > Proto-Sèferi: [ˈsi.jɔ.ŋɔ]MisterBernie wrote:Proto-Sayetic [ɕɑʊŋ] > Coastal Dialect [sjoŋ] > Peninsular Dialect [sɪjɔ̃ɡ]
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Teskwan: sixjung [six.juŋ]Ouagadougou wrote:Peninsular Dialect: [sɪjɔ̃ɡ] > Proto-Sèferi: [ˈsi.jɔ.ŋɔ]
(the way I wrote the example is how we used to do it on the last ZBB Sound Change Game, providing name: romanization/transcription then [pronunciation] and sometimes the underlying phonemes if necessary)
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Nōn quālibet inīquā cupiditāte illectus hoc agō
Yo te pongo en tu lugar...
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Nōn quālibet inīquā cupiditāte illectus hoc agō
Yo te pongo en tu lugar...
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Txala: sikyon [si.kjo̞n̪/si.co̞n̪]Teskwan: sixjung [six.juŋ]
* "ky" can be realised as both [kj] and [c].
* "u" does not existed as a letter or a phoneme.
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Proto-Aukkaŋtin: zik.zun [ˈð̞ik.ð̞on]L'alphabētarium wrote:Txala: sikyon [si.kjo̞n̪/si.co̞n̪]
> Proto-Eastern Aukkaŋtin: [ˈɤːkʲon]
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The actual next word is at the bottom. Ignore this first one, I'm just doing it for sillyness.
SI = the Ancaron prefix that creates a related word from a root.
Now the actual one:
> Standard Ancaron: sicion [sʲɪˈkjon] si-cion SI-weird "The feeling of an odd or unexpected coincidence"L'alphabētarium wrote: Txala: sikyon [si.kjo̞n̪/si.co̞n̪]
SI = the Ancaron prefix that creates a related word from a root.
Now the actual one:
> Standard Ancaron: ocion [ˈokjon]MisterBernie wrote:Proto-Aukkaŋtin: zik.zun [ˈð̞ik.ð̞on]
> Proto-Eastern Aukkaŋtin: [ˈɤːkʲon]
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