I just wanted to point out, IPA y is not an unrounded u. [uu] (kind of) is.Mark, on the Elkar?l language page, wrote:E.g., u is the same as the Russian bI or Japanese u, IPA y.
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I thought it was [M]...vegfarandi wrote:I just wanted to point out, IPA y is not an unrounded u. [uu] (kind of) is.Mark, on the Elkar?l language page, wrote:E.g., u is the same as the Russian bI or Japanese u, IPA y.
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And isn't the Russian <bI> /1/, not /M/?vegfarandi wrote:I just wanted to point out, IPA y is not an unrounded u. [uu] (kind of) is.Mark, on the Elkar?l language page, wrote:E.g., u is the same as the Russian bI or Japanese u, IPA y.
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I have seen claims for the Russian bI to be anything from /1/ to /M/, but according to the most thorough phonology for Russian I've ever seen, it does have a considerable number of allophones that glide so we have /M+_1+/ and similar stuff (especially with labials these are usual iirc).
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