What are you listening to? -- Non-English Edition

[Torco]

yeah, it's common amongst teenagers.

[Aurora Rossa]

Metal is crap.

Yeah, it may sound heretical but I never understood the appeal of metal. It mostly sounds like random screaming to me and it has some rather dubious and repugnant politics.

[Ulan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcXNPI-IPPM

Die Antwoord is so strangely apealing in a mind melting way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uee_mcxvrw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbW9JqM7vho
The story behind the last song is a little nuts (horrible pun)

[Pinetree]

Metal is crap.

Yeah, it may sound heretical but I never understood the appeal of metal. It mostly sounds like random screaming to me and it has some rather dubious and repugnant politics.

Metal vocals aren't just screaming.

[Risla]

Hey Astraios, this is metal.

[AK-92]

speaking of metal, here's what I am listening to right now: drudkh

[Herr Dunkel]

It also applies to Dark, since he's also trying to prove that what he likes is best. And I'm not a kid, I'm a grown-up, so there.

You're circa my age :3

[Astraios]

Hey Astraios, this is metal.

So I meant metal with screaming is crap.

You're circa my age :3

I am a grown-up.

[Herr Dunkel]

You're circa my age :3

I am a grown-up.

I'm turning 21 on October

[Astraios]

I'm turning 21 on October

Aww, I have to wait until February.

[Herr Dunkel]

:O
Happy pretty late birthday

[Astraios]

Why sankyuu.

[jmcd]

Metal is crap.

Yeah, it may sound heretical but I never understood the appeal of metal. It mostly sounds like random screaming to me and it has some rather dubious and repugnant politics.

The screaming aspect already having been discussed, I do wonder which minor metal bands you are thinking of when you say this. Unless it's anti-war songs you object to?

Oh wait that's in English. Unlike this.

[Pthagnar]

there is no need to wonder with a sufficiently capacious memory [and not much is needed to suffice -- this is eddy]. he is thinking of rightist nordic bands.

[jmcd]

Yeah you're right. I didn't phrase it well enough to emphasise the sarcasm.

[Torco]

Metal is crap.

Yeah, it may sound heretical but I never understood the appeal of metal. It mostly sounds like random screaming to me and it has some rather dubious and repugnant politics.

saying that metal has politics is like saying rpg videogames have politics; complicated because these genre labels mean very little; also the former is weird and false and a tiny bit bigoted, but it has a shred of truth regarding classic metal [the best kind... nowadays things are just weird, methinks... doom metal, dark metal, death metal, progressive trash punk classic fusion megafuckwhatisthismeananymore metal, i can't keep track]. Take metallica, for example: metallica lyrics' no-bullshit individualism appeals to republicans, especially to would-be-libertarian republicans. hell, there's even nazi metal, it seems. Metal in general is HARD AND TOUGHT AND MANLY and so stuff like community and solidarity is, for the most part, played down in favour of individualism and social criticism... but that's mostly for you anglosaxons: european metal has wildly different ideologies, and just take a look at latin american metal; our metal is way to the left of your metal.

[jmcd]

You don't need to tell Eddy about Nazi metal. He assumes the small minority of metal bands that are Nazi are representative of all metal.

[Aurora Rossa]

there is no need to wonder with a sufficiently capacious memory [and not much is needed to suffice -- this is eddy]. he is thinking of rightist nordic bands.

Yes, precisely.

The screaming aspect already having been discussed, I do wonder which minor metal bands you are thinking of when you say this.

I dunno which bands in particular, but I know that all the metal I have overheard sounds like screaming.

You don't need to tell Eddy about Nazi metal. He assumes the small minority of metal bands that are Nazi are representative of all metal.

I sure do see a lot of fascist or nationalist-looking bands, though, far more than I see in most other genres. I can hardly remember looking a pop album with iron crosses and runic script on it like you find on metal albums.

[AK-92]

I dunno which bands in particular, but I know that all the metal I have overheard sounds like screaming.

You haven't heard a lot of metal then.

I sure do see a lot of fascist or nationalist-looking bands, though, far more than I see in most other genres. I can hardly remember looking a pop album with iron crosses and runic script on it like you find on metal albums.

So iron crosses and runic script= fascist or nationalist band?

[Pthagnar]

this is a fruitless topic of conversation

[Torco]

I sure do see a lot of fascist or nationalist-looking bands, though, far more than I see in most other genres. I can hardly remember looking a pop album with iron crosses and runic script on it like you find on metal albums.

So iron crosses and runic script= fascist or nationalist band?

Of cors! just like any work depicting elephants as noble and steadfast is inherently republican

[Ulan]

So iron crosses and runic script= fascist or nationalist band?

If its full of swastikas, it must mean be some hindu or buddhist band



... That actually sounds like it would be interesting metal

[Aurora Rossa]

Of cors! just like any work depicting elephants as noble and steadfast is inherently republican

Depends on the context. Is this elephant living in the jungles of Africa or marching through Washington and driving out protestors? I cannot think of any contexts where iron crosses and neo-Pagan runic inscriptions would suggest anything other than the hard right, though.

[Ulan]

Of cors! just like any work depicting elephants as noble and steadfast is inherently republican

Depends on the context. Is this elephant living in the jungles of Africa or marching through Washington and driving out protestors? I cannot think of any contexts where iron crosses and neo-Pagan runic inscriptions would suggest anything other than the hard right, though.

So this is nazi? ...

And motorhead uses the iron cross, so simply using it means they are brownshirts?


Edit, just to keep things on topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5zNK--DUDg

[Torco]

Of cors! just like any work depicting elephants as noble and steadfast is inherently republican

Depends on the context. Is this elephant living in the jungles of Africa or marching through Washington and driving out protestors? I cannot think of any contexts where iron crosses and neo-Pagan runic inscriptions would suggest anything other than the hard right, though.

exactly, this is the concept.

top of my head: metal by a band that is extremely leftwing, communist even, but which at the same time wants to rescue notions of honor and duty. OR metal that simply seeks to appeal to the awesomeness of traditional german mythology. OR metal that, through superficially appearing nazi, wants to humanize the current 'they were evil cause they were evil cause they were evil baddies who were evildoers because of reasons' view of nazism, highlighting the way in which nazism is an astonishingly appealing ideology, if it weren't so, well, evil. OR dudes that just like the imagery.

ninjaed by ulan, who did it less verbosely and in picture format, perhaps more suited for the eddyman