Nice sounding natlangs

[Astraios]

recording or it didn't happen.
I'm not scared and freaked out by men... I *am* a man, being freaked out by men would be scary and freaky. however, I enjoy porn with and without men more or less equally... if you define men as biologically male. I do think, however, that dudes act or are directed horribly in porn, though, and haven't got the cultural and/or psychological freedom to express themselves corporally that chicks have. the good porn chicks wiggle, move around, breathe, talk, tease, they transmit a lot through their bodies. dudes, on the other hand, tend to just stand there, looking stupid and doing like 'huf, huf, huf, huf, oh fuck, oh yea, oh fuck' and waiting for the 'money shot'. Even gay porn, as far as I've watched it, has dudes being extremely less expressive than their boobed counterparts... hell, even most tgirls are not particularly expressive. I wonder if it's genetic.

Maybe later.
Enormous disagreement with the girls having more cultural/psychological freedom than guys thing. It's just what you said, the "good" ones do it like that because they're told to because it turns men on more to imagine a girl who's so horny for them and having so much pleasure she's gone crazy. Normal people having normal sex just don't act like that. And besides, if I am watching straight porn then the girl so obviously faking it like that is just unhot and off-putting. Also disagreement with the genetic thing. It's a being-fucked thing, IME, cause it gives you a massive feeling of NEED MORE YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME ENOUGH DO BETTER.

[finlay]

Guys in straight porn aren't supposed to be alluring, they're supposed to be a sort of stand-in for the viewer's cock...

As for gay porn, if they're just huffing and puffing... well some people do find that attractive, but perhaps you're just watching the wrong porn, because there are plenty of alluring guys out there.

[Torco]

recording or it didn't happen.

Maybe later.
Enormous disagreement with the girls having more cultural/psychological freedom than guys thing. It's just what you said, the "good" ones do it like that because they're told to because it turns men on more to imagine a girl who's so horny for them and having so much pleasure she's gone crazy. Normal people having normal sex just don't act like that. And besides, if I am watching straight porn then the girl so obviously faking it like that is just unhot and off-putting. Also disagreement with the genetic thing. It's a being-fucked thing, IME, cause it gives you a massive feeling of NEED MORE YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME ENOUGH DO BETTER.

wait, there is a disconnect there. on one hand, being fucked gives a feeling of powerlessness that's liberating, exhillarating and sort of teasy at the same time, I get that [theoretically, at least, it must be awesome]. but, on the other hand, you say that when chicks do it it's faked. Sure it is sometimes, but I've dome enough girls to know that, while less rehearsed, they *do* scream and squeal, and wiggle around, and shake uncontrollably, and crisp their hands, and all that jazz... if done correctly. so which is it, fuckees are more expressive than fuckers, or girls are more expressive because they're just trying to fulfill male fantasies [and don't gays have similarly male fantasies of the dude being so mindshatteringly overwhelmed with pleasure he can't do anything but try to catch their breath in desperation and shake uncontrollably as his body comes to terms with the feelings, btw?]

NINJAED: oh, finlay, you had to spill the beans.

a fine point, though: also, not all straight porn is watched by males: there's a growing industry of porn for girls, and even there dudes are basically a wooden golem with a cock.

[finlay]

Spill the beans? oh come on, it's not like people didn't know you were writing something there. Besides, it's cunts like you that are the reason I've had a minimum font size set on my browser for the past 6 or 7 years... because people on here use it as a cheap way of making an "easter egg" in a post and I can't be bothered navigating back and forth with the quote button to read it.

[Torco]

Easy, man, you said yourself it's extremely easy to fix, if you find it annoying, I also have a min font set.
so grumpy

[Astraios]

wait, there is a disconnect there. on one hand, being fucked gives a feeling of powerlessness that's liberating, exhillarating and sort of teasy at the same time, I get that [theoretically, at least, it must be awesome]. but, on the other hand, you say that when chicks do it it's faked.

Nope, sorry, I didn't say that at all. I said the "good" porn girls are faking it, which they clearly are.

[Torco]

wait, there is a disconnect there. on one hand, being fucked gives a feeling of powerlessness that's liberating, exhillarating and sort of teasy at the same time, I get that [theoretically, at least, it must be awesome]. but, on the other hand, you say that when chicks do it it's faked.

Nope, sorry, I didn't say that at all. I said the "good" porn girls are faking it, which they clearly are.

well, of course, they´re *professionals*. they're most likely enjoying it, the ones who are good at their jobs, to some degree, and in acting there's always a thin line between faking it and actually living it, but they *are* actresses. My question is why aren't the dudes so good at fuckacting ?

[Astraios]

well, of course, they´re *professionals*. they're most likely enjoying it, the ones who are good at their jobs, to some degree, and in acting there's always a thin line between faking it and actually living it, but they *are* actresses. My question is why aren't the dudes so good at fuckacting ?

WfinlayS.

[Bob Johnson]

Let's get a bit back on topic here. Which natlangs does porn sound the best in?

[Torco]

well, of course, they´re *professionals*. they're most likely enjoying it, the ones who are good at their jobs, to some degree, and in acting there's always a thin line between faking it and actually living it, but they *are* actresses. My question is why aren't the dudes so good at fuckacting ?

WfinlayS.

allright, then, off to see some gay porn xD

Let's get a bit back on topic here. Which natlangs does porn sound the best in?

Spanish, of course. and italian. also, i used to like japanese for porn, but no more... it sounds too childish and rapy.
I hate portuguese porn!
o gostoso! gostoso! gostoso! delicia! gostoso! gostoso! aaaa I hate it!

[Thry]

allright, then, off to see some gay porn xD

Keep like this and you'll go gay.

[Torco]

allright, then, off to see some gay porn xD

Keep like this and you'll go gay.

assuming such a thing as "going" gay is possible, which I dunno.
we have a saying in chile: no conozco maricón arrepentido. meaning I knever knew a gay dude who went back into straightness.

[Thry]

assuming such a thing as "going" gay is possible, which I dunno.
we have a saying in chile: no conozco maricón arrepentido. meaning I knever knew a gay dude who went back into straightness.

Aw, fuck that saying (also how "back" into straightness, wasn't he gay all the way?). I'd like going bi. I think it's the most desirable state possible. Atm, unlike Straighos, I'm not quite turned off by girls .

[Torco]

assuming such a thing as "going" gay is possible, which I dunno.
we have a saying in chile: no conozco maricón arrepentido. meaning I knever knew a gay dude who went back into straightness.

Aw, fuck that saying (also how "back" into straightness, wasn't he gay all the way?). I'd like going bi. I think it's the most desirable state possible. Atm, unlike Straighos, I'm not quite turned off by girls .

¿ you'd *like* to *like* both dudes and dames ?
why don't you just... you know... like dudes and dames?

[Aurora Rossa]

¿ you'd *like* to *like* both dudes and dames ?
why don't you just... you know... like dudes and dames?

I think he means it would be cool if he were bisexual, but unfortunately is not.

[Thry]

¿ you'd *like* to *like* both dudes and dames ?
why don't you just... you know... like dudes and dames?

You ask, as in that you wouldn't?! Why wouldn't you? It's like right-handedness and ambidexterity.

I do like them already, as in they're pleasant to watch, but the real thing is different. Who knows, maybe one day I'll wake up and realize I am bi.

[Thry]

I think he means it would be cool if he were bisexual, but he is not in real life.

xD so I'm bi online?

[Torco]

¿ you'd *like* to *like* both dudes and dames ?
why don't you just... you know... like dudes and dames?

I think he means it would be cool if he were bisexual, but unfortunately is not.

hmm... on one hand, I'm tempted to say "well, I learned to like onion salad, which i loathed as a kid and now love... maybe it's the same with cock!"
but, on the other hand, it might not be.... xD

¿ you'd *like* to *like* both dudes and dames ?
why don't you just... you know... like dudes and dames?

You ask, as in that you wouldn't?! Why wouldn't you? It's like right-handedness and ambidexterity.
I do like them already, as in they're pleasant to watch, but the real thing is different. Who knows, maybe one day I'll wake up and realize I am bi.

I don't know... this country, this western society, it must be crappy, having to deal with hate and bigotry, religious shits banning you to marry, laws being passed explicitly to discriminate against you and fuck you over... plus, bisexualism is the object of bigotry by both queers and straights. plus, it's too much of a label... I'll probably fuck a dude or two before I die of old age, maybe I'll love it and marry one, maye it'll be meh and I'll not do it again. either way, I'm not going to *define* myself based on that, just like I'm not going to define myself based on whether I like blondes or brunettes, or A cups or D cups, or strawberries or blueberries.

[Thry]

hmm... on one hand, I'm tempted to say "well, I learned to like onion salad, which i loathed as a kid and now love... maybe it's the same with cock!"
but, on the other hand, it might not be.... xD

God, it's not only about that. You talk as if it was just sex. A sexual orientation is more than that - how much hot people are you missing out there? the good sights? half of humanity! And all of those extremely delightful sensations are in theory possible for every single sane human to feel, male or female. And we just only live once. It's more than clear to me. Let the hormones flow!

I don't know... this country, this western society, it must be crappy, having to deal with hate and bigotry, religious shits banning you to marry, laws being passed explicitly to discriminate against you and fuck you over... plus, bisexualism is the object of bigotry by both queers and straights. plus, it's too much of a label... I'll probably fuck a dude or two before I die of old age, maybe I'll love it and marry one, maye it'll be meh and I'll not do it again. either way, I'm not going to *define* myself based on that, just like I'm not going to define myself based on whether I like blondes or brunettes, or A cups or D cups, or strawberries or blueberries.

I don't generally need to think of those problems (save society, but the time will come when I don't give a fuck).

Precisely because of that labellessness is why I want to be bisexual, not as a lifestyle, just as the ability to be able to love anybody. Women and men are different, and both have their ways to be lovable. Pansexuality? Well, though I don't like trannys, but I have nothing against them; it's just that I'm mostly attracted to masculinity in men and femininity in women, not things in between, but I respect everything.

[Torco]

I don't generally need to think of those problems (save society, but the time will come when I don't give a fuck).

Precisely because of that labellessness is why I want to be bisexual, not as a lifestyle, just as the ability to be able to love anybody. Women and men are different, and both have their ways to be lovable. Pansexuality? Well, though I don't like trannys, but I have nothing against them; it's just that I'm mostly attracted to masculinity in men and femininity in women, not things in between, but I respect everything.

then you look like you're bisexual

remember... bisexual isn't the perfect centre of the gay-straight spectrum... it's just liking dudes or dames... maybe you like dames more, maybe you like more dames, which is different, but still. but fuck labels, you're a person who'd probably do a dude.

dude who'd probably do a dude eventually high-five!

also, by contrast, I'd deffo do a tgirl [tranny is kind of pejorative i think]

[Thry]

then you look like you're bisexual

remember... bisexual isn't the perfect centre of the gay-straight spectrum... it's just liking dudes or dames... maybe you like dames more, maybe you like more dames, which is different, but still. but fuck labels, you're a person who'd probably do a dude.

"who'd probably"?

That attracted was not "sexually attracted". It's hard to explain. For dudes it's all the normal thing, but for girls; I don't mind them, they're hot and that, and they can even make the whole picture better, also very kissable, but the idea of the act itself, meh, doesn't bring my attention.

also, by contrast, I'd deffo do a tgirl [tranny is kind of pejorative i think]

I've been wondering why straight guys like trannys, but curiously I like girls who dress as boys (however, they must keep a scent of femininity - I guess some girls are hot just no matter how they dress; I don't like these in the same way I'd like a hot guy, though).

[Aurora Rossa]

This reminds me of the law someone suggested some weeks ago that as a thread on the ZBB progresses, the chances of the topic shifting to gay sex approach 1, or so I seem to recall them saying.

[Thry]

This reminds me of the law someone suggested some weeks ago that as a thread on the ZBB progresses, the chances of the topic shifting to gay sex approach 1, or so I seem to recall them saying.

Fuck! Torco, we Godwin'd one thread and now this!

Blame Astraios.

[Astraios]

Atm, unlike Straighos, I'm not quite turned off by girls .

So much misrepresentation today! I never said I'm turned off by girls, I said girls faking it and acting up turn me off. Normal girls in general don't turn me on, and there's a difference between not being turned on by and being turned off by.

it's too much of a label... I'll probably fuck a dude or two before I die of old age, maybe I'll love it and marry one, maye it'll be meh and I'll not do it again. either way, I'm not going to *define* myself based on that, just like I'm not going to define myself based on whether I like blondes or brunettes, or A cups or D cups, or strawberries or blueberries.

Why do you think you have to define yourself by it? It's just a feature of you, it's not your whole identity.

Blame Astraios.

Oh sure, blame the Jew, what the heck, we're easy targets.

[Thry]

Atm, unlike Straighos, I'm not quite turned off by girls .

So much misrepresentation today! I never said I'm turned off by girls, I said girls faking it and acting up turn me off. Normal girls in general don't turn me on, and there's a difference between not being turned on by and being turned off by.

I kneeeeeeeew, precisely because of that.
I was poking fun at you and you fell for it XD.

Oh sure, blame the Jew, what the heck, we're easy targets.

xD this is on the verge of being Godwin'd.

Don't get mad at me