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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:47 pm 
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I noticed a lot of people around here use LaTeX, and I've been using it myself recently. Thing is, I've been struggling with typing the IPA characters. Since any grammar written in LaTeX will likely make use of characters from the IPA, I've been wondering how you all handle IPA characters, like the glottal stop.

So, how do you insert IPA characters into your work?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:06 pm 
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You should get the linguistics package of LaTeX


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:01 am 
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If you are using XeTeX or LuaTeX or any decent modern TeX engine with Unicode support, you can just insert the appropriate Unicode characters. Otherwise you can use commands like for ʀ, etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:45 pm 
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I really recommend using XeLaTeX, I kind of hate TIPA. then I just type things in, and they appear correctly. Though I'm using Keyman/dbus+KMFL for input with a keyboard I wrote for myself...


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:22 pm 
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Okay, I decided to try Goatface's idea. I switched to TeX Live for my TeX installation, and set up my TeX editor, TeXStudio to use XeTeX. That way, I could input Unicode characters and have them appear in my document with little more than the usual rigamarole. Only thing is, TeXStudio isn't even saving my Unicode characters! They keep turning into question marks when I save them. I think it may have something to do with the encoding, but I don't know for sure. Any ideas?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:49 pm 
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I don't know the program, but to venture an educated guess, could it be that you need to set the standard encoding to UTF-8 when saving somewhere? Many text editors I've tried for some reason still assume you want to save stuff in iso-8859-1 by default.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:56 pm 
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Okay, I solved the problem. Apparently, I forgot to put an input encoding instruction to actually tell the program to actually use UTF-8 encoding. You see, the program was actually set to use UTF-8 encoding; I had thought that was the wrong encoding, but it wasn't. Unfortunately, the file wasn't being treated like a proper UTF-8 file because the file itself wasn't telling the program to do so. It's working now.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:00 am 
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Can someone please explain to me the actual benefits, for the average writer, of doing things in *TeX rather than, saw, a word processor? I've tried and I've experimented and I've concluded that I do not have time for that shit. Why do people use it?


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I have always favored controlling what is typeset in a human-readable and editable source file from which an output file (whether PDF, PS, or DVI) is generated rather than trying to wrangle with making things look just right in a GUI word processor, which almost always seems like a pain in the ass, particularly with regard to keeping everything in order and looking consistent. For being supposedly "WYSIWYG" everything seems more difficult than it ought to be in them.

(I remember in particular at my previous job trying to create a sizeable body of documentation for a particular test application. Trying to make things be formatted right with "styles" under Word was a pain in the ass, especially when Word would try to change styles automatically for me as if I somehow wanted it to, making a mess of things. I would have had a much easier time with this were I able to use LaTeX for it.)

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I copy/paste them from Wikipedia XD

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:45 pm 
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alt shortcuts also help, if you can memorize them.

I'm using a mac, here's a quick alt + faceroll
¡™£¢∞§¶•≠œ∑´®†¥¨ˆøπ“‘«åß∂ƒ©˙∆˚¬…æΩ≈ç√∫˜µ≤≥÷

ß∂∫æ

and those are the four IPA symbols I can shortcut to atm. Might relink some more later though.

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I use Ekaya in Windows and KMFL in Linux, which both let me use uncompiled Keyman keyboard files. Over something like the last 7 years, I've developed and refined a pretty good keyboard system for IPA and common Latin characters, including combining diacritics.


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