Yep - the lack of retroflexes is the hallmark of Southern pronunciation. I think some of them would also do a r > [z] or [l] or [j] or something.John wrote:I've noticed those changes in Southern pronunciation before, but she transforms her retroflexes as well, zh->z sh->s ch->c, which I've not heard before much. Will a Southern accent do that? I think my Daoism prof does it too, and she learned more in Taiwan and northern mainland than the South, IIRC.
(I'm very clear on it, because zhi1 is a very common word in Classical and she *always* says zi, ie zizize buru haozize, haozize buru lezize. (instead of Zhizhizhe buru haozhizhe etc) Her voice also goes up a couple octaves when she speaks Chinese instead of English, but I've noticed that in lots of people.)
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