I have the impression I'm abit asking for much but is their anywhere on the net where I could find an adequate round up of the sound changes of Proto-Germanic to Old Frisian or even, if possible, all the way down to (some of) the modern dialects? I checked google books and hardly found anything satisfying enough. I don't reckon any such a thing can be found in the L&L museum, right?
If anything at all, I'd like to know precisely where apocope and syncope of vowels applied. So I figure some of you knowledgeable ones must surely have some idea here what happened?
Thank you!
Proto-Germanic>Old Frisian sound changes & apocope, syncope
Proto-Germanic>Old Frisian sound changes & apocope, syncope
"Brothers will battle to bloody end,
and sisters' sons their sib betray;
woe's in the world, much wantonness;
axe-age, sword-age, cloven shields,
wind-age, wolf-age, ere the world crumbles;
will the spear of no man spare the other."
-->Voluspa
and sisters' sons their sib betray;
woe's in the world, much wantonness;
axe-age, sword-age, cloven shields,
wind-age, wolf-age, ere the world crumbles;
will the spear of no man spare the other."
-->Voluspa
Re: Proto-Germanic>Old Frisian sound changes & apocope, sync
I don't have the complete picture, but I do have some stuff:
Selected sound changes from Proto-Germanic to Proto-West Germanic
-/æ:/→/a:/
-Unstressed /ai au/→/æ: o:/
-Word-final /z/ lost
-All other /z/→/r/
-Consonants except /r/ are doubled before /j/
Selected sound changes from Proto-West Germanic to Anglo-Frisian
-Nasals are lost before fricatives (thus we have things like German "fünf" : English "five"); preceding vowel is lengthened
-/a:/→/æ:/ unless followed by /w/ or a nasal
-/a/→/æ/ unless followed by a geminate, a back vowel, or a nasal
-/ai/→/a:/
That's all I have that I can be reasonably sure of.
Most of that comes from this Wikipedia article.
Seeing as it's from Wikipedia, I make no guarantees of the accuracy of this information.
Have a nice day
Selected sound changes from Proto-Germanic to Proto-West Germanic
-/æ:/→/a:/
-Unstressed /ai au/→/æ: o:/
-Word-final /z/ lost
-All other /z/→/r/
-Consonants except /r/ are doubled before /j/
Selected sound changes from Proto-West Germanic to Anglo-Frisian
-Nasals are lost before fricatives (thus we have things like German "fünf" : English "five"); preceding vowel is lengthened
-/a:/→/æ:/ unless followed by /w/ or a nasal
-/a/→/æ/ unless followed by a geminate, a back vowel, or a nasal
-/ai/→/a:/
That's all I have that I can be reasonably sure of.
Most of that comes from this Wikipedia article.
Seeing as it's from Wikipedia, I make no guarantees of the accuracy of this information.
Have a nice day
At, casteda dus des ometh coisen at tusta o diédem thum čisbugan. Ai, thiosa če sane búem mos sil, ne?
Also, I broke all your metal ropes and used them to feed the cheeseburgers. Yes, today just keeps getting better, doesn't it?
Also, I broke all your metal ropes and used them to feed the cheeseburgers. Yes, today just keeps getting better, doesn't it?
Re: Proto-Germanic>Old Frisian sound changes & apocope, sync
Ya I already knew about the wikipedia page. But thanks anyways.Bedelato wrote:I don't have the complete picture, but I do have some stuff:
Selected sound changes from Proto-Germanic to Proto-West Germanic
-/æ:/→/a:/
-Unstressed /ai au/→/æ: o:/
-Word-final /z/ lost
-All other /z/→/r/
-Consonants except /r/ are doubled before /j/
Selected sound changes from Proto-West Germanic to Anglo-Frisian
-Nasals are lost before fricatives (thus we have things like German "fünf" : English "five"); preceding vowel is lengthened
-/a:/→/æ:/ unless followed by /w/ or a nasal
-/a/→/æ/ unless followed by a geminate, a back vowel, or a nasal
-/ai/→/a:/
That's all I have that I can be reasonably sure of.
Most of that comes from this Wikipedia article.
Seeing as it's from Wikipedia, I make no guarantees of the accuracy of this information.
Have a nice day
In case Bedelato or anybody else is insterested I found this quite useful http://www.lotpublications.nl/publish/a ... okpart.pdf. I must warn you tho' it's a bit of a gigantic piece of work.
"Brothers will battle to bloody end,
and sisters' sons their sib betray;
woe's in the world, much wantonness;
axe-age, sword-age, cloven shields,
wind-age, wolf-age, ere the world crumbles;
will the spear of no man spare the other."
-->Voluspa
and sisters' sons their sib betray;
woe's in the world, much wantonness;
axe-age, sword-age, cloven shields,
wind-age, wolf-age, ere the world crumbles;
will the spear of no man spare the other."
-->Voluspa
Re: Proto-Germanic>Old Frisian sound changes & apocope, sync
Are you familiar with Rolf H. Bremmer Jr.'s An Introduction to Old Frisian? It has a decent enough summary of the soundchanges from Proto-Germanic. You can download a pdf copy from Rapidshare here.
Salmoneus wrote:(NB Dewrad is behaving like an adult - a petty, sarcastic and uncharitable adult, admittedly, but none the less note the infinitely higher quality of flame)