For a Newcomer to Almea

[Ghost]

Embarrasingly, I must admit I haven't read much of VV. In fact, the stuff I have read was such a long time I might as well have read none of it. So... for me, and anyone else who's a relative newcomer to Almea, in what order should I read the pages? What's best to start with and what should I leave until last?

Thanks,
Zak

[Warmaster]

Embarrasingly, I must admit I haven't read much of VV. In fact, the stuff I have read was such a long time I might as well have read none of it. So... for me, and anyone else who's a relative newcomer to Almea, in what order should I read the pages? What's best to start with and what should I leave until last?

Thanks,
Zak

I'll answer my opinion: the atlas. i spent months reading through all that! though make sure you have a decent resolution to get the commentary in.

[Kolya]

Embarrasingly, I must admit I haven't read much of VV. In fact, the stuff I have read was such a long time I might as well have read none of it. So... for me, and anyone else who's a relative newcomer to Almea, in what order should I read the pages? What's best to start with and what should I leave until last?

Thanks,
Zak

I'll answer my opinion: the atlas. i spent months reading through all that! though make sure you have a decent resolution to get the commentary in.

Months? How did that take you months? I did it over the course of a friday evening and a saturday. Maybe I'm just crazy and do things until a finish them (though, I highly doubt that's true in most respects)

[zompist]

Embarrasingly, I must admit I haven't read much of VV. In fact, the stuff I have read was such a long time I might as well have read none of it. So... for me, and anyone else who's a relative newcomer to Almea, in what order should I read the pages? What's best to start with and what should I leave until last?

There's a reason the culture test and Visitor's Guide are at the top of the page, you know.

After that, the drilldown is designed to be a short introduction to the planet, and to Verduria in particular.

And after that, it depends on what you like. With this crowd, it's usually the languages. For outsiders, the stories may be more accessible. And I can't fault Warmaster's choice of the atlas.

[Warmaster]

i did say months for a reason - i kept rereading it.

Then i finally went through the count of years, which was very good fun as well. i also printed off effect/counter effect to read on the bus. i desprately want more stories though! (hint at babblers)

[zompist]

i desprately want more stories though! (hint at babblers)

Start saving your money. If I can't find a publisher I intend to self-publish Babblers, but not to distribute it free...

[Drydic]

i desprately want more stories though! (hint at babblers)

Start saving your money. If I can't find a publisher I intend to self-publish Babblers, but not to distribute it free...

I'd buy it.

[Warmaster]

i desprately want more stories though! (hint at babblers)

Start saving your money. If I can't find a publisher I intend to self-publish Babblers, but not to distribute it free...

i didn't say free, i'm very willing to pay cause i know the content will be good. and if self publishing is the way you have to go, well, i'll still buy it!

[Ghost]

i desprately want more stories though! (hint at babblers)

Start saving your money. If I can't find a publisher I intend to self-publish Babblers, but not to distribute it free...

i didn't say free, i'm very willing to pay cause i know the content will be good. and if self publishing is the way you have to go, well, i'll still buy it!

If it was self-published, would it make it to Europe? Or would we have to order it from America?

How many publishers have you tried, Mark?

Ghost

[zompist]

If it was self-published, would it make it to Europe? Or would we have to order it from America?

I don't know yet what distribution channels are realistic. Whatever happens, I'm sure it will be orderable through my site.

How many publishers have you tried, Mark?

All the ones that accept unagented submissions, plus a few agents.

I was hoping to use my between-jobs time to get an agent, but the time got eaten up by house projects and moving. I aim to get back to it once things settle down.

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All the ones that accept unagented submissions, plus a few agents.

I've been meaning to ask you. (Maybe I've already asked this, but if so, I've forgotten, sorry!) Have you tried publishing excerpts of the MS? One common way to give a book more "weight" when you send it to a publisher is to release pieces of it in small journals -- that way, it's already got some publishing history behind it when it lands an the editor's desk, and they're a lot likelier to actually read it.

[Dewrad]

How many publishers have you tried, Mark?

All the ones that accept unagented submissions, plus a few agents.

I know this might sound weird, but have you tried submitting it to publishers outside the US? IIRC Brian Stableford couldn't get published in the UK when he started out so he sent it to the US (or possibly Canada, I forget) and publishers there virtually snatched the manuscript out of his hand. Same story with Katharine Kerr, I think, only the other way round.

Naturally, if you do approach a UK publisher first and get accepted that means we'd get Babblers over here first, which would be a Very Good Thing

[Warmaster]

How many publishers have you tried, Mark?

All the ones that accept unagented submissions, plus a few agents.

I know this might sound weird, but have you tried submitting it to publishers outside the US? IIRC Brian Stableford couldn't get published in the UK when he started out so he sent it to the US (or possibly Canada, I forget) and publishers there virtually snatched the manuscript out of his hand. Same story with Katharine Kerr, I think, only the other way round.

Naturally, if you do approach a UK publisher first and get accepted that means we'd get Babblers over here first, which would be a Very Good Thing

Seconded! its rare we get anything first, but to get babblers would be supremely good.

of course, i will be willing to wait