A small question on Ismain pronounciation
A small question on Ismain pronounciation
Are EI and other diphthongs in Isma?n one sound, or seperate? Is Emei [EmEi]?
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Re: A small question on Ismain pronounciation
Separate, and each counts as a syllable, so it's [E 'mE i].Ghost wrote:Are EI and other diphthongs in Isma?n one sound, or seperate? Is Emei [EmEi]?
I'm flattered that you'd ask me, especially since I know about 20 words in Mandarin. Nevertheless...Ghost wrote:Whimz, as you know Mandarin, could you help me with the alveolo-palatal fricatives ? & j. They're a bit confusing to me.
Like /S/, but laminal, would be a close approximation, I'd say. And <j> is the voiced version. In other words, what Pharazon said.
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Is not /S/ normally laminal?Whimemsz wrote:I'm flattered that you'd ask me, especially since I know about 20 words in Mandarin. Nevertheless...Ghost wrote:Whimz, as you know Mandarin, could you help me with the alveolo-palatal fricatives ? & j. They're a bit confusing to me.
Like /S/, but laminal, would be a close approximation, I'd say. And <j> is the voiced version. In other words, what Pharazon said.
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But the river tripped on her by and by, lapping
as though her heart was brook: Why, why, why! Weh, O weh
I'se so silly to be flowing but I no canna stay!
But the river tripped on her by and by, lapping
as though her heart was brook: Why, why, why! Weh, O weh
I'se so silly to be flowing but I no canna stay!
And by "laminal", I of course mean "the thing after laminal, whatever that may be."Salmoneus wrote:Is not /S/ normally laminal?Whimemsz wrote:I'm flattered that you'd ask me, especially since I know about 20 words in Mandarin. Nevertheless...Ghost wrote:Whimz, as you know Mandarin, could you help me with the alveolo-palatal fricatives ? & j. They're a bit confusing to me.
Like /S/, but laminal, would be a close approximation, I'd say. And <j> is the voiced version. In other words, what Pharazon said.
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IMI, its completely unapical. Tip of the tongue is behind the bottom gums. Except in /tS/, when it starts apical and moves laminal, but nnever as laminal as by itself.
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But the river tripped on her by and by, lapping
as though her heart was brook: Why, why, why! Weh, O weh
I'se so silly to be flowing but I no canna stay!
But the river tripped on her by and by, lapping
as though her heart was brook: Why, why, why! Weh, O weh
I'se so silly to be flowing but I no canna stay!
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Yes, I know. Although I think laminal refers to any sound where the articulator is the blade of the tongue, rather than the tip - no matter how far back from the tip it may be.
My /S/ has the frication caused by the blade, far back. My /tS/ has an apical /t/, and then the /S/ starts apical and moves back to laminal as the tongue moves forward. But this time it is the front of the blade, a short distance behind the tip.
My /S/ has the frication caused by the blade, far back. My /tS/ has an apical /t/, and then the /S/ starts apical and moves back to laminal as the tongue moves forward. But this time it is the front of the blade, a short distance behind the tip.
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But the river tripped on her by and by, lapping
as though her heart was brook: Why, why, why! Weh, O weh
I'se so silly to be flowing but I no canna stay!
But the river tripped on her by and by, lapping
as though her heart was brook: Why, why, why! Weh, O weh
I'se so silly to be flowing but I no canna stay!
That seems rather weird to me; I'm pretty sure my /tS/ and /S/ are both laminal, as is post-alveolar /t/ by itself (e.g. in select).Salmoneus wrote:My /S/ has the frication caused by the blade, far back. My /tS/ has an apical /t/, and then the /S/ starts apical and moves back to laminal as the tongue moves forward. But this time it is the front of the blade, a short distance behind the tip.