Help your conlang fluency (2)

[masako]

ke muyan ma’ak tanya yanihila
TOP create.ADV without destroy meaning-DIM-become
Without destruction, creativity loses meaning.

[jal]

Without destruction, creativity loses meaning.

Wen yu go af emti kanvas, yu me kriyetif an mek olda ting yu won. It in won swoy fo yu me bil, wen yu go af nof spes.
[øːn ju go ɐf emti kɐ̃ːʋɐs ju me krijetif ɐ̃ː mek oldɐ tiŋ ju w̝ɒ̃ː it in w̝ɒ̃ː sʷoːj fo yu me bil øːn ju go af nof spes]
when 2SG IRR have empty canvas 2SG POT creative and do all things 2SG want. 3 NEG want destroy in_order_to 2SG POT build when 2SG IRR have enough space

When you have an empty canvas, you can be creative all you want. It's not necessary to destroy to build, when you have enough space.


JAL

[masako]

When you have an empty canvas, you can be creative all you want. It's not necessary to destroy to build, when you have enough space.

ula ma'a yopa ka
INDEF with build Q
Whatever would one build with?

[Thry]

It blaud der onscyldye is da bietste tincte.
The blood of the innocent is the best ink.

[jal]

Whatever would one build with?

Dis ya a gut mata
[dis jɐ ɐ gut mɐtɐ]
DEM NEAR PROG good matter
That's a good point


JAL

[jal]

The blood of the innocent is the best ink.

Di blot fwom fi enami u dwingk pas ol.
[di blot ɸʷom fi enɐmi u dyːŋk pɐs ol]
DEF blood ABL POSS enemy HAB drink CMP all
The blood of your enemy is the best drink

CMP = comparative particle


JAL

[Thry]

Mynos te syen hyr sucen xD.
Unless they're diseased.

[jal]

Unless they're diseased.

Wen im a sik, yu swel in les ray leta yus fi blot
[øːn im ɐ sik ju søːl in les rɐj letɐ jus fi blot]
when 3 PROG sick 2 also NEG IMP write letter INS POSS blood
When they are sick, you also shouldn't write letters with their blood


JAL

[Thry]

An als sye it en lyveleyriss wapen?
What if it's a biological weapon?

[CatDoom]

Khau thīm kith âi? To du pekh tûn...
[xaʊ̯ θɪ̤m kʰɪθ a̤ɪ̯ || tʰɔ tʊ pʰɛx tʰṳn]
what.AN PL/person drink blood 3COL.IN really NEG be.tasty

Who drinks blood? It's not very tasty...

[Nortaneous]

It blaud der onscyldye is da bietste tincte.
The blood of the innocent is the best ink.

Se blôd of unschiudiç min bith se beist inc.
[zə ˈbloːd ʊv ʊnˈʃiu̯ditʃ mɪn bɪ(ð) zə bɛi̯st ɪŋk]

(The word for 'ink' obviously would've been borrowed in; I haven't started on the Romance conlang it'd be borrowed from, but who cares, it'd be borrowed from Old French. Or it could be derived on what looks like the Celtic model, 'black' plus some sort of nominalizer, dunno which it'd be. As for 'of', regular development would give it short o, but v diphthongizes before consonants and unstressed ou reduces to short u, and that got projected back into 'of' through analogy. I don't know how to handle adjective nominalization yet. Really ought to work out the grammar properly.)

[Matrix]

It blaud der onscyldye is da bietste tincte.
The blood of the innocent is the best ink.

Se blôd of unschiudiç min bith se beist inc.
[zə ˈbloːd ʊv ʊnˈʃiu̯ditʃ mɪn bɪ(ð) zə bɛi̯st ɪŋk]

Sa blaafon av sa uncaaljìsk fen bajong kipcaal ìst.
[sæ ˈblɑfn̩ æv sæ ˈunt͡ʃɑɫd͡ʒɪsk fen ˈbæd͡ʒŋ̩ ˈkipt͡ʃɑɫ ɪst]

(Interestingly here, 'caalj', guilt, is a homophone of 'caalj', shield - at least, in the nominative singular and accusative plural. So, the word 'uncaaljìsk' could be read as either 'innocent' or 'unshielded', which, in this case, I think can be pretty interchangable.)

[jal]

Who drinks blood? It's not very tasty...

It a rical de losa kolca, afta difit on fi enami.
[it ɐ ritʃɐl de losɐ koltʃɐ ɐftɐ difit ɒ̃ fi enɐmi]
3 PROG ritual LOC many culture after defeat PAT POSS enemy
It's a ritual in many cultures, after the defeat of their enemies.

PAT = patientive particle


JAL

[jal]

(Interestingly here, 'caalj', guilt, is a homophone of 'caalj', shield - at least, in the nominative singular and accusative plural. So, the word 'uncaaljìsk' could be read as either 'innocent' or 'unshielded', which, in this case, I think can be pretty interchangable.)

"inafcil" seml "indifensa", in "inosan". "indefensa" mining "wen yu on tak, yu in me mek no ting", ova "inosan" mining "yu in mek it". Mi in tingk dis tu ting seml nof fo swop.
[inɐfˈtʃil seml indiˈfensɐ in ˈinosɐ̃ː indiˈfensɐ ˈminiŋ øːn ju ɒ̃ː tɐk ju in me mek no tiŋ oʋɐ ˈinosɐ̃ː ˈminiŋ ju in mek it mi in tiŋ(k) dis tu tiŋ seml nof fo sʷoːp]
unshielded (NEG.have.shield) resemble defenseless (NEG.defense) NEG innocent defenseless mean when 2S PASS attack you NEG do NEG thing but innocent mean 2S NEG do 3 1S NEG think DEM two thing resemble enough for exchanging
"unshielded" resembles "defenseless", not "innocent". "defenseless" means "in case you are attacked, you can't do anything, while "innocent" means "you didn't do it". I don't think these two things are close enough to exchange


JAL

[Thry]

I don't know how to handle adjective nominalization yet.

Ver neu bruce y articlens an de sonworde der strangen vorme.
Atm I use articles and the reflexes of the strong forms.

(It's supposed to mirror romance straightforward nominalization, after all.)

Really ought to work out the grammar properly.

Y au xD.

@Matrix: what's the etym of kipcaal?

[Matrix]

@Matrix: what's the etym of kipcaal?

It's a loan from an a priori conlang of mine. In the Talurmen contemporary with Southlandic, the root is qipf- [qip͡ɸ], with the masculine singular -tsl [t͡sl̩]

[Nate]

Ιδήος, ιλ ακαζό δε λήστες άδες αλ φιναίδω.
/iˈde.ɔs||il akaˈt͡so də ˈlestəs ˈadəs al fiˈnedo/
So, the summer vacation is drawing to a close.

Σπείρω κε λο φις πλαιδ πορ ώνι.
/ˈspairo kə lɔ fis ˈpled pɔr 'oni/
I hope it was fun for everyone.

[Chagen]

Buwot vīḥevyū, daga urēnīm ūyōya nējjrāyīm ātovyī.
fun be.PERF-3S, even.though all-INDEF-DAT nothing-INDEF-ACC.SG imporant.stuff-DEF-DAT.SG do-PERF-1S
It was fun, even though I did absolutely nothing of importantance

[CatDoom]

Na nakh só íleth; na pekh tá hâi du.
[nə nəx so ˈilɛθ || nə pʰɛx tʰa ha̤ɪ̯ tʊ]
1S wish stand student 1S NEG work recently really

I wish I was a student; recently I haven't worked at all.

[Thry]

Ιδήος, ιλ ακαζό δε λήστες άδες αλ φιναίδω.
/iˈde.ɔs||il akaˈt͡so də ˈlestəs ˈadəs al fiˈnedo/
So, the summer vacation is drawing to a close.

Σπείρω κε λο φις πλαιδ πορ ώνι.
/ˈspairo kə lɔ fis ˈpled pɔr 'oni/
I hope it was fun for everyone.

Ny, hit is ny have.
No its not gtfo.

Dit is Hispaene.
This is Spartain.

[Nannalu]

I'm trying to produce two languages at the same time for my conworld, which is hard but I'm focussing on Taqluong right now (and eventually move to the Luong family in the future) but I did get a lot farther with Selkut, another language. So here is a random sentencein Selkut:

Hirťin wtamħas urťu maǧešiz.
>FEM.PL<stone >N/ACC.PL<dark garden.GEN <DEF>climb-PST.I.1.SG
/hirθin wtamxas urθu maʕəʃiz/
I climbed the garden's dark stones.

[clawgrip]

Ιδήος, ιλ ακαζό δε λήστες άδες αλ φιναίδω.
/iˈde.ɔs||il akaˈt͡so də ˈlestəs ˈadəs al fiˈnedo/
So, the summer vacation is drawing to a close.

Σπείρω κε λο φις πλαιδ πορ ώνι.
/ˈspairo kə lɔ fis ˈpled pɔr 'oni/
I hope it was fun for everyone.

Neuomuan ler Jappang jngorp bia leuokmuan jark choacheung yang.
Summer in Japan ends when winter begins.

[Bristel]

Ιδήος, ιλ ακαζό δε λήστες άδες αλ φιναίδω.
/iˈde.ɔs||il akaˈt͡so də ˈlestəs ˈadəs al fiˈnedo/
So, the summer vacation is drawing to a close.

Σπείρω κε λο φις πλαιδ πορ ώνι.
/ˈspairo kə lɔ fis ˈpled pɔr 'oni/
I hope it was fun for everyone.

Neuomuan ler Jappang jngorp bia leuokmuan jark choacheung yang.
Summer in Japan ends when winter begins.

Quez l'etymolog de "Jappang"?
/kEz lEtimol@k d@ Zapp@N/
What is the etymology of "Jappang"?

Yay, instead of copypasta IPA, I decided to try using X-SAMPA.

[Thry]

Na borgien, caen it syn?
A borrowing maybe?

[clawgrip]

Ιδήος, ιλ ακαζό δε λήστες άδες αλ φιναίδω.
/iˈde.ɔs||il akaˈt͡so də ˈlestəs ˈadəs al fiˈnedo/
So, the summer vacation is drawing to a close.

Σπείρω κε λο φις πλαιδ πορ ώνι.
/ˈspairo kə lɔ fis ˈpled pɔr 'oni/
I hope it was fun for everyone.

Neuomuan ler Jappang jngorp bia leuokmuan jark choacheung yang.
Summer in Japan ends when winter begins.

Quez l'etymolog de "Jappang"?
/kEz lEtimol@k d@ Zapp@N/
What is the etymology of "Jappang"?

Yay, instead of copypasta IPA, I decided to try using X-SAMPA.

Jappang psaysgeugeyt aajung. Chikchi ler jap "ten" aajung ley chikchi ler pang "hold/enclose" aajung.
"Jappang" is made up of characters used phonetically only. "Jap" means "ten" and "pang" means "hold/enclose".