Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2

[Mr. Z]

Sigh... although Enochian is pretty famous I thought that I'd bring it up anyway. It kind of depresses me that people could believe that a second-rate conlang by a 15-century loonie is a holy angelic tongue. (or a Satanic tongue, depending on your degree of, um, interestingness) . But they do, so, yeah.
The wikipedia article and an honest-to-god believer website:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian
http://biphome.spray.se/d.scot/Enochian/enocmain.htm

Amusing, but not extraordinary.

[WeepingElf]

Sigh... although Enochian is pretty famous I thought that I'd bring it up anyway. It kind of depresses me that people could believe that a second-rate conlang by a 15-century loonie is a holy angelic tongue. (or a Satanic tongue, depending on your degree of, um, interestingness) . But they do, so, yeah.
The wikipedia article and an honest-to-god believer website:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian
http://biphome.spray.se/d.scot/Enochian/enocmain.htm

"Older than Sanskrit". Oh dear. That alone is worth 200 millinylands. But indeed, Enochian is so spurious that the belief that it was the language of angels amounts to another 500 millinylands.

[Zumir]

I wonder if there are people who believe in the Lingua Ignota as a sacred language.

[Zumir]

How many millinylands do you think the IOUO guy gets?

[tezcatlip0ca]

Sigh... although Enochian is pretty famous I thought that I'd bring it up anyway. It kind of depresses me that people could believe that a second-rate conlang by a 15-century loonie is a holy angelic tongue. (or a Satanic tongue, depending on your degree of, um, interestingness) . But they do, so, yeah.
The wikipedia article and an honest-to-god believer website:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian
http://biphome.spray.se/d.scot/Enochian/enocmain.htm

"Older than Sanskrit". Oh dear. That alone is worth 200 millinylands. But indeed, Enochian is so spurious that the belief that it was the language of angels amounts to another 500 millinylands.

I wouldn't say "older than Sanskrit" is 200, let's give it 120 mNy.
Angelic language? Definitely some 480 mNy.
The script? Definitely too noobish to be angelic. 40 mNy.
The language? Quack. 40 mNy.
Plus some other features. 80 mNy.
Grand total: 760 mNy. Not bad for 16th century quacks.

[Zumir]

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/04 ... the-l.html
I'm not sure what to make of this. There's a good chance that it's a joke.

[Timmytiptoe]

The date of the article is a good hint that it's a joke .

[alice]

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/04 ... the-l.html
I'm not sure what to make of this. There's a good chance that it's a joke.

The conventional wisdom is that Hebrew and the languages of Europe share only three words: amen, hallelu-Yah, and Kokah-Kolah.

Just what does the last of those words mean in Hebrew, anyway? "Mystical ingredient"?

[Zumir]

Okay definitely a joke.

[Mecislau]

Came across this post on the Word Reference forums in my google results when I was searching for something unrelated. This isn't actually first person quackery, but is some misinformed person perpetuating someone else's quackery.

Here's the gem:

It's a bit off topic, but I've read, that the words of the same origin in North Caucasian languages may consist of similar phonemes in different order, because the "proto-language", which they have been developed from had so many phonemes, that it did not matter much, if you pronounce them in wrong order. I.E. It would be very unlikely to have all those phonemes in another root.

In other words, in North Caucasian languages, it doesn't matter what order the consonants come in!

[alice]

Came across this post on the Word Reference forums in my google results when I was searching for something unrelated. This isn't actually first person quackery, but is some misinformed person perpetuating someone else's quackery.

Here's the gem:

It's a bit off topic, but I've read, that the words of the same origin in North Caucasian languages may consist of similar phonemes in different order, because the "proto-language", which they have been developed from had so many phonemes, that it did not matter much, if you pronounce them in wrong order. I.E. It would be very unlikely to have all those phonemes in another root.

In other words, in North Caucasian languages, it doesn't matter what order the consonants come in!

What a shame a certain bannee isn't around any longer to comment. It might explain the large numbers of phonemes in his reconstructions.

[Jashan]

Sigh... although Enochian is pretty famous I thought that I'd bring it up anyway. It kind of depresses me that people could believe that a second-rate conlang by a 15-century loonie is a holy angelic tongue. (or a Satanic tongue, depending on your degree of, um, interestingness) . But they do, so, yeah.
The wikipedia article and an honest-to-god believer website:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian
http://biphome.spray.se/d.scot/Enochian/enocmain.htm

I've had long conversations on Satanic/Luciferian messageboards (I'm a Satanist, albeit it a semi-lapsed one) about Enochian, and approaching it from a linguistic perspective. It's both depressing and amusing to see how many people actually really do believe that it is (at very least) a fully-functional natural language and (at very most) Ye Olde Divine/Diabolicke Tongue

[dhok]

"I MAY BE A HOGWARTS STUDENT...." Hairgrid paused angrily. "BUT I AM ALSO A SATANIST!"

[Mr. Z]

Okay definitely a joke.

It doesn't matter if it's a joke or a quackery; we can laugh at it anyway.

[Xephyr]

What in fucking shit is "Nynorsk Yupik Language"??

(EDIT: Yes I know it's automatically generated. I got sent there by a link while browsing the interwebs for Yup'ik stuff, though, and was amused.)

[Kereb]

Xephyr that's automatically generated, you know.
GAAAAHD.
And you're welcome for me telling you that.

[Xephyr]

Oh SHIT this is so embarassing! I have no choice now but to go live in the wilderness so nobody sees my face again.

[Drydic]

Oh SHIT this is so embarassing! I have no choice now but to go live in the wilderness so nobody sees my face again.

The idea of you turning into a Ted Kaczynski/Randy Weaver oddly wouldn't suprise me one bit.

[finlay]

What's also amusing is that if you browse the other languages, it does that for all of them...

"If you knew Nynorsk Azerbaijani ..."

[rickardspaghetti]

"If you knew Nynorsk Lakota..."

[dhok]

"Burushaski as an Indo-European Kentum Language"

[Šm Mepuyoš ab Duhen]

"Burushaski as an Indo-European Kentum Language"

Yes.Navajo is also a Niger-Congo language and Nynorsk is Austro-Asiatic.

[Tropylium]

"Burushaski as an Indo-European Kentum Language"

I dunno if that's necessarily crackpottery… ever taken a look at some modern-day Iranian langs? Someone familiar with only European IE would be hard-pressed to notice anything familiar. Any IE lang that split off fairly early, and had developed on its own twice as long as Tocharian, would be expected to be not very obvious about its ancestry even to experts.

[Arzena]

Arabic doesn't have words for she and he

!الله استغفر

[Civil War Bugle]

Arabic doesn't have words for she and he

!الله استغفر

Forgive me if I am missing some irony in your statement, but does that article not say it is deliberately reversing the way pronouns work in Arabic and Chinese for a thought experiment?