Txin maasaatukuq, tuk āššiyaḫḫa, etc.

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I am an occasional T-Shirt designer- very occasional.

However, on this occasion, I am designing a T-Shirt for that special polyglot someone in your life- a shirt that says "I love you" in at least a hundred languages- the more the merrier.

I have, as of right now, German, French, Italian/Spanish/Latin, Welsh, Old Irish, Aleut, Sanskrit, Ancient Greek, Russian, Hittite, Dutch and Slovak.

However, I need more translations! So, if you guys have some natlang translations, I'd like to have them.

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Lakota: Thečhíȟila

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Here's the Northern Germanic family:

Icelandic: Ég elska þig.
Faroese: Eg elski teg.
Nynorsk: Eg elskar deg.
Bokmål: Jeg elsker deg.
Danish: Jeg elsker dig.
Swedish: Jag älskar dig.

I would guess, although with high confidence, that Old Norse is ek elska þik, but you should want to confirm that.

Others:

Hungarian: Szeretlek.
West Greenlandic: Asavakkit.
Modern Greek: Σ'αγαπώ.
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Mandarin: 我爱你
Afrikaans: Ek het jou lief.

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Hebrew
.אני אוהב אותך
Ani ohev otkha/otakh.

You say otkha if you're loving a man and otakh if you're loving a woman. They're written the same, though, so it doesn't much matter.

Yiddish
.איך ליבע דיך
Ikh libe dikh.

Just like ich liebe dich.

Japanese
君が好きだ。
Kimi ga suki da.

IIRC, kimi is sort of a mannish way to address the person you love. If you're a woman, you're more likely to use あなた anata, I believe. You can avoid the problem altogether by not including any "pronoun" — in other words, just 好きだ。(Suki da.).

The Italian is ti amo, so it's not the same as the translation for Spanish or Latin. Brazilian Portuguese has te amo as well, though.

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Finnish: Minä rakastan sinua.
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Antirri wrote:Hebrew
.אני אוהב אותך
Ani ohev otkha/otakh.

You say otkha if you're loving a man and otakh if you're loving a woman. They're written the same, though, so it doesn't much matter.

Yiddish
.איך ליבע דיך
Ikh libe dikh.

Just like ich liebe dich.

Japanese
君が好きだ。
Kimi ga suki da.

IIRC, kimi is sort of a mannish way to address the person you love. If you're a woman, you're more likely to use あなた anata, I believe. You can avoid the problem altogether by not including any "pronoun" — in other words, just 好きだ。(Suki da.).

The Italian is ti amo, so it's not the same as the translation for Spanish or Latin. Brazilian Portuguese has te amo as well, though.

Ah, dammit. I was in a rush and was checking various Romance languages on Google Translate against te amo, and it checked out.

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Antirri wrote:Japanese
君が好きだ。
Kimi ga suki da.

IIRC, kimi is sort of a mannish way to address the person you love. If you're a woman, you're more likely to use あなた anata, I believe. You can avoid the problem altogether by not including any "pronoun" — in other words, just 好きだ。(Suki da.)
What about 愛してる?
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Ojibwe: gizaagi'in (other possibilities are giminwenimin or giwiijide'emin [the latter being literally "I share the same heart as you"])

I can make educated guesses on some other Algonquian languages. For (Plains) Cree: kisâkihitin. For Arapaho: bíxoo3é3en (where <3> is the standard orthography representation of /θ/). I might try more later.

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Doesn't Plains Cree use macrons for long vowels?
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It can use either. I don't know if the macrons are more "official" or not. Though to quote languagegeek: "Some linguists using Roman orthography prefer a circumflex ‹â› over a macron ‹ā› to mark long vowels."

I mean if you want you could just write it <ᑭᓵᑭᐦᐃᑎᐣ> and problem solved.

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Zulu: Ngyiyakuthanda
ngi=1st person singular subject agreement
ya=present tense indicative + indicates that nothing that has focus follows the verb (this is a much simplified picture of the distribution of ya)
ku=2nd person singular object agreement
thand= to love
a= the default form of the final suffix that every regular Zulu verb has.

Dutch is "ik hou(d) van jou", but you knew that already.

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Skomakar'n wrote:Doesn't Plains Cree use macrons for long vowels?
As far as I know, the use of macrons in Cree is a fairly rare practice; circumflexes are by far more common, and the only thing I've seen used for Plains Cree outside of Wikipedia.

Okinawan:
かなさんどー【悲さんどー・哀さんどー】
kanasan doo

I'd personally avoid writing it in Kanji, since the characters imply a sense of sadness and anguish. Edit: there's also the possibility of using 愛さんどー.

Tagalog:
Mahal kita
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Hakaku wrote:
Skomakar'n wrote:Doesn't Plains Cree use macrons for long vowels?
As far as I know, the use of macrons in Cree is a fairly rare practice; circumflexes are by far more common, and the only thing I've seen used for Plains Cree outside of Wikipedia.
That's my sense as well, although the macrons are certainly used in linguistic publications. They aren't by any means an idiosyncratic Wikipedia Thing.

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Skomakar'n wrote:What about 愛してる?
Mmh, <aishiteru> is a bit forward; but I'd go with it here, given the context.

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Hakaku wrote:
Skomakar'n wrote:Doesn't Plains Cree use macrons for long vowels?
As far as I know, the use of macrons in Cree is a fairly rare practice; circumflexes are by far more common, and the only thing I've seen used for Plains Cree outside of Wikipedia.
A friend of my mother brought home a pretty old CD on learning some basic Plains Cree vocabulary, that was primarily intended for native children. It used macrons, at least.
Hakaku wrote:I'd personally avoid writing it in Kanji, since it implies a sense of sadness and anguish.
How is that possible when the words are the same anyway? "I'm an angsty, misunderstood teenager using kanji for a non-Japanese Japonic variety when nobody else does"?
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Skomakar'n wrote:A friend of my mother brought home a pretty old CD on learning some basic Plains Cree vocabulary, that was primarily intended for native children. It used macrons, at least.
My current Plains Cree teacher solely uses circumflexes, a few teaching materials I've seen only use them, and the main reference dictionary for Western Cree also only uses circumflexes. That's kind of what made me state that, but I certainly don't doubt that macrons are used here and there. Personally, I kind of prefer them, but they're more difficult to type on a standard keyboard, which hinders their widespread adoption (you can see the same phenomenon happen with Japanese romanization).
Skomakar'n wrote:How is that possible when the words are the same anyway? "I'm an angsty, misunderstood teenager using kanji for a non-Japanese Japonic variety when nobody else does"?
Huh? I'm not following. Okinawan is written with Kanji, and nearly all old records of Okinawan feature Kanji, a practice which has subsisted into modern times. It just has no standard. 悲 and 哀 are (or at least technically are) the appropriate characters for kanasan, a term which is etymologically related to the standard Japanese word kanashii. The implication of sadness, anguish, and pity is the translingual interpretation of the characters. It just happens that the semantics of Okinawan shifted kanas- from "sad" to "sad (as in missing someone)" to "dear", and that the expression kanasan doo overlaps with "I love you" in English, though it carries more a certain sense of attachment, of endearment. Since the etymology is correct, the characters are valid and supported by at least one attempted standardization outline.

I discourage them because there aren't that many people who speak, read and write frequently in Okinawan, which means that the most likely reader will be Japanese or someone who's familiar with the language, and so the intended meaning will get obscured by the reading of the kanji character. You could also use 愛さん, by association with the Japanese terms 愛す aisu and 愛する aisuru "to love" or 愛しい itoshii "lovely, dear", but then you lose the recognizability of the character's reading. And so, for a single word, you can end up with lots of written variants. Ultimately though, it's up to the author's preference.
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Esperanto: Mi amas vin.
[bɹ̠ˤʷɪs.təɫ]
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Main Tumse Pyaar Kartaa Hoon is the de facto phrase
मैं तुमसे प्यार करता हूँ
Mujhe Tumse Pyaar Hai - shorter and seems to be as correct but you'd want to confirm this with a native.
मुझे तुमसे प्यार है

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Vietnamese: Anh yêu em.
or if you're a girl
Em yêu anh.
Turkish: Seni seviyorum.
Czech: Miluji te.
Georgian: მიყვარხარ (miqvarkhar)

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Take some of these with a grain of salt..

Xhosa: Ndiyakuthanda.
Swazi: Ngiyakutsandza.
Tsonga: Ndza ku rhandza.
Southern Sotho: Kēa u rata.
Northern Sotho: Ke a go rata.
Tswana: Kea go rata.

Yup'ik: Kenkamken.
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GrinningManiac wrote:Main Tumse Pyaar Kartaa Hoon is the de facto phrase
मैं तुमसे प्यार करता हूँ
Mujhe Tumse Pyaar Hai - shorter and seems to be as correct but you'd want to confirm this with a native.
मुझे तुमसे प्यार है
YOU NEED TO SPECIFY THE LANGUAGE

Cebuano: Gihigugma ko ikaw

Walloon: Dji t'veû vol'tî
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I'd love to see the Hittite for "I love you" - is that the subject line?"
GrinningManiac wrote:Main Tumse Pyaar Kartaa Hoon is the de facto phrase
मैं तुमसे प्यार करता हूँ
Mujhe Tumse Pyaar Hai - shorter and seems to be as correct but you'd want to confirm this with a native.
मुझे तुमसे प्यार है
which language is this? (I think the OP would like the names too)
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Rodlox wrote:which language is this? (I think the OP would like the names too)
looks like plain hindi; the first one assumes a male speaker I think

Edit: see translation section http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/I_love_you

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Skomakar'n wrote:
Antirri wrote:Japanese
君が好きだ。
Kimi ga suki da.

IIRC, kimi is sort of a mannish way to address the person you love. If you're a woman, you're more likely to use あなた anata, I believe. You can avoid the problem altogether by not including any "pronoun" — in other words, just 好きだ。(Suki da.)
What about 愛してる?
I've read that it sounds corny/overly dramatic/soap opera-ish.

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