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Travis B. wrote:
linguoboy wrote:
Viktor77 wrote:And are these just more white trash names like Faith and Hope?
"White trash"? I only know one "Faith" and she could hardly be more of a Trixie.
Interesting that I have not heard any signs of the term Trixie leaking into Milwaukee from down in Chicago. Of course, I might not be amongst the right people to be familiar with the term in the first place.
It's not here in Michigan either.
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I've gone to school with a Trixie from the Seattle area.
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Wisconsin, Michigan--these are the kinds of places Trixies come from. Y'all don't need the term; your Trixies are living here.

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"Trixie", hah. That names says something very different to me. Unlike 'Faith' and 'Hope', which strike me as typical names for daughters of ultra-clean conservative-Christian families and who invariably still wear their promise rings at 30 and have straight, brown, unadorned hair, "Trixie' suggests instead a deathly thin girl with - well, a ponytail, but <10 teeth - and selling herself on the Ave for meth money. "Tricks" is even phonetically part of the name, for god sakes.

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Mason. Jayden. Aiden. Ava. Madison. Addison. Avery. Aubree. Mia. Liam. Logan. Landon. London. Blake. Bentley. Brody. Grayson. Bryson. Brayden. Ayden??? Khloe????? Jaxon??????????

Hahahaha yeah we're fucked.
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Nortaneous wrote:Mason. Jayden. Aiden. Ava. Madison. Addison. Avery. Aubree. Mia. Liam. Logan. Landon. London. Blake. Bentley. Brody. Grayson. Bryson. Brayden. Ayden??? Khloe????? Jaxon??????????

Hahahaha yeah we're fucked.

Mason= Bricklayer in Middle-Late English
Aiden/Ayden= Anglicization of some Irish name
Ava= Short for something, can't put my finger on it.
Liam= Short for William, also [not trying to start an argument] how do you think commonwealthites (besides Canadians) feel when they find out Dwight, Quincy, and Hiram are actually considered legit names in America and Canada? [ten dollars says they find this out before 11th grade tho].
Logan= Borrowing from Scottish
Khloe= A better transliteration for the Greek name.
Mia, Landon, Blake= Been in English a loooooong time.
Bentley, Jayden, Hayden, Brayden, Madison, Jaxon= Don't bother me, but relatively new and surprisingly popular (even Jaxon).

Ditto for the rest.

I have met people with names like Yoni (An AAVE name from Hebrew), Tariq, Chanel, Chansey, Arbaz (An Urdu), Boston, Simrin (sister to aforementioned Boston), Kanan (whose last name is Mehta), Fatma, Cotter, Perez (no, I didn't meet Perez Hilton- just some one who shares a name with him), Hunter, Shepard (two in fact, one related said Hunter, the other related to said Simrin), Elborz (who is Armenian), Daizhin (rough guess based on a look at his ID [my school makes people wear them at all times], he is Chinese and pronounces his name TAY-jhin) and finally Rashidi.
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Ah yes, Bricklayer is a perfectly good name, as are misspellings like Aiden and nicknames like Liam.
Zontas wrote:how do you think commonwealthites (besides Canadians) feel when they find out Dwight, Quincy, and Hiram are actually considered legit names in America and Canada?
Nothing, because they aren't anymore.
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Mr. Z wrote:People in Israel these days have horrible names... Akhzava (disappointment), Adolf (well...), Khalon (window), Shulkhana (table...fem?), etc. Some are disgusting and insulting, some are stupid, some don't make sense. They tried to implement naming regulations a few months ago, but I don't think it worked out.

Fun Fact: Mongolians typically name their children names with odd qualities like you mentioned if a previous child had died prematurely. This is supposedly done to ward off evil spirits. I'm not positive if anywhere else does this practice.

@Nort Yeah they are, I've met more than a few people with names like that, but expect some one named Hiram or William* to almost always go by something else. Nicknames/Variants as given names are fine as long as they're shortenings/aesthetic.

@Zomp I've met a few Hispanics and Asians who went by recently archaic or proper English names like Harrison, Maurice, and Dylan.

*Seriously, if I had a penny for every person named William but going by something else, I'd be richer than Warren Buffet.
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Zontas wrote: @Zomp I've met a few Hispanics and Asians who went by recently archaic or proper English names like Harrison, Maurice, and Dylan.
Sure... I've known a number of Asians with unusual names; my theory is that foreign-born parents pick the English names from name lists, not knowing which ones are common. My point was that Asians are less likely to have either invented or inventively spelled names.

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zompist wrote:
Zontas wrote: @Zomp I've met a few Hispanics and Asians who went by recently archaic or proper English names like Harrison, Maurice, and Dylan.
Sure... I've known a number of Asians with unusual names; my theory is that foreign-born parents pick the English names from name lists, not knowing which ones are common. My point was that Asians are less likely to have either invented or inventively spelled names.
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Zontas wrote: @Zomp I've met a few Hispanics and Asians who went by recently archaic or proper English names like Harrison, Maurice, and Dylan.
My roommate in freshman year of college was from China. His English name was Paco. I asked him about it once and he said that he chose it because it was near the top of a list of most common names that begin with the letter P. I'm still not entirely sure where he found this list...(Mexico, maybe?).

Though he's since dropped the Paco. I'm not sure if it's because he recently went on to grad school and would rather have his thesis and all other papers with his actual name?

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Zontas wrote:Fun Fact: Mongolians typically name their children names with odd qualities like you mentioned if a previous child had died prematurely. This is supposedly done to ward off evil spirits. I'm not positive if anywhere else does this practice.
Fairly common cross-linguistically. We end up cataloguing a fair number of biographies of African politicians where I work and one in particular had the birth name "Ukomomwonmwonchohwora" which the biographer translated as "may my womb not host an evil foetus". Apparently his mother had suffered at least one miscarriage before he was born. (His name at the local mission school was "Wilson"; as an adult his given name was shortened to "Chohwora" and I've always wondered which element of the full name that represents.)

In many societies, these sorts of names are only used until a person survives childhood, at which point they are given a name which emphasises their positive characteristics.

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Didn't that happen in Things Fall Apart?

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My big question about naming is this: Why the hell would someone name their daughter America?

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Hubris Incalculable wrote:My big question about naming is this: Why the hell would someone name their daughter America?
I met some one named that...

My guess would be stupidity.
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Zontas wrote:I have met people with names like Yoni (An AAVE name from Hebrew)
No. It's just the regular Hebrew short form of Yehonatan.

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Astraios wrote:
Zontas wrote:I have met people with names like Yoni (An AAVE name from Hebrew)
No. It's just the regular Hebrew short form of Yehonatan.
I could be wrong about the Hebrew part, considering the name could be from any language in Africa or Asia.
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Zontas wrote:
Hubris Incalculable wrote:My big question about naming is this: Why the hell would someone name their daughter America?
I met some one named that...

My guess would be stupidity.
Amerigo Vespucci? It was a name originally.
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Hubris Incalculable wrote:My big question about naming is this: Why the hell would someone name their daughter America?
why not? It's a good name.

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linguoboy wrote:Fairly common cross-linguistically. We end up cataloguing a fair number of biographies of African politicians where I work and one in particular had the birth name "Ukomomwonmwonchohwora" which the biographer translated as "may my womb not host an evil foetus". Apparently his mother had suffered at least one miscarriage before he was born. (His name at the local mission school was "Wilson"; as an adult his given name was shortened to "Chohwora" and I've always wondered which element of the full name that represents.)
I'm hoping it's "evil fetus"

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What about Napoleonic surnames like "Zeldenhuis" and the like. Have you spotted anyone like that?
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You mean Zeldenthuis? Yeah, but these are surnames. I've seen Vroegindewei (and spelling variations -- lit. early in the meadow),

I used to work in customer service, and I'm interested in Dutch names. I've collected remarkable or funny surnames over the past few years. Here are a few that might meet your criteria (and if not, they're still funny).
  • Grootendorst (big thirst),
    Naaktgeboren (born in the nude),
    De Kwaadsteniet (not unkind),
    Lievenoogen (kind eyes),
    Gladpoodjes (little slick paws),
    Fijnvandraat (finely threaded),
    De Dood (death),
    De Wegwijzer (fingerpost),
    Ramp (disaster),
    Manshanden (man's hands),
    Welbedacht (well considered),
    Goedbloed (good blood),
    Openneer (up and down),
    Stofregen (drizzle),
    Klungel (klutz),
    Sparenrijk (save-rich),
    Keukenmeester (kitchen master),
    Kaasjager (cheese hunter),
    Doornenbal (thorny ball),
    Blankespoor (white man's trail),
    Duistermaat (dark companion),
    Stom (mute),
    Radijs (radish),
    De Wekker (alarm clock),
    Scheefhals (crooked neck),
    Doodeman (dead man),
    Halfman (half a man),
    Dolle (wild one),
    Gortzak (bag of barly),
    Hartlief (kind heart),
    Kandelaar (chandelier),
    Onrust (unrest),
    Halvemaan (crescent moon),
    Onderwater (underwater),
    De Redelijkheid (reason),
    Bruidegom (bride),
    Van de Ketterij (of heresy),
    Buitenhek (outdoor fence),
    Koekenbier (cake and beer),
    Kaasenbrood (cheese and bread),
    Pekelharing (pickled herring),
    Regtuit (straight on),
    Kreukniet (does not wrinkle),
    Spaarwater (save water),
    Kortleven (short life),
    Volwater (full of water),
    Modderman (mud man),
    Vuurpijl (skyrocket)
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linguoboy wrote:Wisconsin, Michigan--these are the kinds of places Trixies come from. Y'all don't need the term; your Trixies are living here.
My sister moved to Chicago from Milwaukee (with a period of living on Long Island in between), and she is definitely not a Trixie. She is marrying a Chicagoan soon, but the guy she is marrying is not a Chad either.
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Zontas wrote:
Nortaneous wrote:Mason. Jayden. Aiden. Ava. Madison. Addison. Avery. Aubree. Mia. Liam. Logan. Landon. London. Blake. Bentley. Brody. Grayson. Bryson. Brayden. Ayden??? Khloe????? Jaxon??????????

Hahahaha yeah we're fucked.
Ava= Short for something, can't put my finger on it.
Is that not just a variant of Eva or Eve? All the people I know with this name are Jews from the sort of families that would attempt hip but religious names.

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Chances are, if you name your kid Braxlee, he or she is gonna end up bent over the sink in the back of a TGI Friday's, offering tail in exchange for a better skim off the tip pool.
WHAT... the hell does that mean?!

There seems to be some sort of an agreement that absurd names are mainly a lower-class thing, but my goodness, when I found out that someone was named Airey Middleton Sheffield Neave I just couldn't believe how ridiculous it sounds, to me.
Dewrad wrote:Nobody's yet mentioned the weird Brazilian habit of using pseudo-English surnames ending in -son as male personal names as a comparison? I've met and worked with a Jackson, an Eddyson, a Ramson, an Anderson, and there's a footballer with the first name Richerlyson (sp?).
Pinto means 'dick', a quick search for Joao Pintos reveals that
João Pinto may refer to:

João Domingos Pinto (born 1961), former Portuguese football defender
João Vieira Pinto (born 1971), former Portuguese football forward
João Oliveira Pinto (born 1971), former Portuguese football midfielder
João Manuel Pinto Tomé (born 1973), former Portuguese football defender
João Paulo Pinto Ribeiro (born 1980), Portuguese football forward
YES! They're ALL footballers, WTF?!
Mr. Z wrote:People in Israel these days have horrible names... Akhzava (disappointment), Adolf (well...), Khalon (window), Shulkhana (table...fem?), etc. Some are disgusting and insulting, some are stupid, some don't make sense. They tried to implement naming regulations a few months ago, but I don't think it worked out.
How does that work? I honestly can't imagine what it's like to be Adolf in Israel, surely there must be proper outrage at the parents?!

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