Salmoneus wrote:[...]Firstly, there's the inherent exposure element. America has a very large number of women in it, and their attractiveness can be 'sampled' merely by looking at them (or for some people just smelling or hearing them). These women are quite varied in appearance, comprising pretty much any combination of features possible. Thus, it's reasonable to think that a heterosexual man would before long discover an attractive woman in America, even without seeking them out. Good chocolate, on the other hand, is by all accounts very rare in America - only found in shops, for a start, and then only in good and specialised shops, and probably not at all in many regions. What's more, good chocolate can only be sampled by actually eating it, unlike women. If men only became attracted to women once they'd eaten them, and attractive women were in any case only found in specialised slave-shops that you'd have no reason to go into normally, with all other women (still only found in shops) being hideously deformed... well then, it wouldn't be unreasonable at all to suggest that someone who claims not to be attracted to women may just not have eaten the right one yet.
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To use your analogy again: the 'gay man' doesn't just say he's gay, he says "I saw some women once, but I think women are ugly. Those beards, and the lumpy growths on the neck, and the scabbing, and the missing limbs.... they're just disgusting!". In this case, yes, sure, maybe he really doesn't find women attractive... but it's also quite reasonable to suggest to him that maybe these view have more to do with the fact that he's living in a leper colony for carnival folk than with the attractiveness of women per se.[...]
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The search function on the ZBB has always been pretty bad. Even before the server switches.Lyhoko Leaci wrote:The search function doesn't show everything, the hacking and/or the move to the new server messed it up I think. Or there's some other bug in the system somewhere...
And there's a quote relating to Bryan on the second page of this thread. Not sure if it's the type that he's looking for, though...
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Salmoneus wrote:Problems with grid-cities:...they're sinister, evil, inhuman, sterile, cold, intimidating, evil, alien and evil. Nothing nice can happen in a city with a grid layout. They're designed to be inhabited by our future robot overlords. They're designed for an emotionless, artless eugenicised master-race....Just thinking about American cities makes my skin crawl...
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Drydic Guy wrote:Get over it and go take a dump on a banjo or something
"There was a particular car I soon came to think of as distinctly St. Louis-ish: a gigantic white S.U.V. with a W. bumper sticker on it for George W. Bush."
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I was about to write "You realize..." but then I remembered who I was talking to so insteadJabechasqvi wrote:Drydic Guy wrote:Get over it and go take a dump on a banjo or something
That's a reference to a comic whose sole purpose is to explain how utterly broken you are you nincompoop.
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You wanted so badly to hurt my feelings, but I am just laughing it off.Drydic Guy wrote:I was about to write "You realize..." but then I remembered who I was talking to so instead
That's a reference to a comic whose sole purpose is to explain how utterly broken you are you nincompoop.
"There was a particular car I soon came to think of as distinctly St. Louis-ish: a gigantic white S.U.V. with a W. bumper sticker on it for George W. Bush."
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Does it work in reverse?Jabechasqvi wrote:You wanted so badly to hurt my feelings, but I am just laughing it off.Drydic Guy wrote:I was about to write "You realize..." but then I remembered who I was talking to so instead
That's a reference to a comic whose sole purpose is to explain how utterly broken you are you nincompoop.
Q: Why did the Capitalist cross the road?
A: Because the road is a symbol for the Proletariat, whom the Capitalist must step upon to get anywhere.
A: Knock-knock?
Q: Who's there?
A: The white man.
Q: The white man who?
Q: The white man who has come to colonize and oppress your people, rape your women, marginalize your language and draw offensive cartoons.
Q: How many Leftists does it take to change a light-bulb?
A: Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down there. You want those fighting for the equality of everyone, including the vision-impaired, to help return to you the very sight with which ableists like you oppress and disenfranchise them? Check your privilege, buddy.
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Try again with guessing my intent.Jabechasqvi wrote:You wanted so badly to hurt my feelings, but I am just laughing it off.Drydic Guy wrote:I was about to write "You realize..." but then I remembered who I was talking to so instead
That's a reference to a comic whose sole purpose is to explain how utterly broken you are you nincompoop.
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Vuvuzela wrote:Does it work in reverse?Jabechasqvi wrote:You wanted so badly to hurt my feelings, but I am just laughing it off.Drydic Guy wrote:I was about to write "You realize..." but then I remembered who I was talking to so instead
That's a reference to a comic whose sole purpose is to explain how utterly broken you are you nincompoop.
Q: Why did the Capitalist cross the road?
A: Because the road is a symbol for the Proletariat, whom the Capitalist must step upon to get anywhere.
A: Knock-knock?
Q: Who's there?
A: The white man.
Q: The white man who?
Q: The white man who has come to colonize and oppress your people, rape your women, marginalize your language and draw offensive cartoons.
Q: How many Leftists does it take to change a light-bulb?
A: Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down there. You want those fighting for the equality of everyone, including the vision-impaired, to help return to you the very sight with which ableists like you oppress and disenfranchise them? Check your privilege, buddy.
Q: How many libertarians does it take to fix a light bulb?
A: None. They'll just let the free market take care of it.
Q: How many Syrians does it take to launch a missile?
A: 10. One to launch it, nine to watch CNN to find out where it landed.
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Get with the times grandpa, you're stuck in Gulf War 1.Jerian wrote:Q: How many Syrians does it take to launch a missile?
A: 10. One to launch it, nine to watch CNN to find out where it landed.
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You have a front rounded vowel in we?Jerian wrote:b̰æ̰k̰ ɪ̰n̰ m̰ɑ̰ḭ d̰ḛɪ̰, w̰y̰ s̰p̰o̰ʊ̰k̰ t̰ʰṵʊ̰ æ̰ṵʊ̰r̰ ɛ̰l̰d̰ɜ̰ʁ̰z̰ w̰ɪ̰θ̰ ə̰ b̰ɪ̰t̰ m̰o̰r̰ r̰ɛ̰s̰p̰ʰɛ̰ʔ̰tDrydic Guy wrote: Get with the times grandpa, you're stuck in Gulf War 1.
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I thought it is impossible to make voiceless consonants creaky voiced.Jerian wrote:b̰æ̰k̰ ɪ̰n̰ m̰ɑ̰ḭ d̰ḛɪ̰, w̰y̰ s̰p̰o̰ʊ̰k̰ t̰ʰṵʊ̰ æ̰ṵʊ̰r̰ ɛ̰l̰d̰ɜ̰ʁ̰z̰ w̰ɪ̰θ̰ ə̰ b̰ɪ̰t̰ m̰o̰r̰ r̰ɛ̰s̰p̰ʰɛ̰ʔ̰t
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You could glottalize the voiceless consonants.2-4 wrote:I thought it is impossible to make voiceless consonants creaky voiced.
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things ipa wasn't designed to do, #1 (pretty much)
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Frog in your throat?Jerian wrote:b̰æ̰k̰ ɪ̰n̰ m̰ɑ̰ḭ d̰ḛɪ̰, w̰y̰ s̰p̰o̰ʊ̰k̰ t̰ʰṵʊ̰ æ̰ṵʊ̰r̰ ɛ̰l̰d̰ɜ̰ʁ̰z̰ w̰ɪ̰θ̰ ə̰ b̰ɪ̰t̰ m̰o̰r̰ r̰ɛ̰s̰p̰ʰɛ̰ʔ̰tDrydic Guy wrote: Get with the times grandpa, you're stuck in Gulf War 1.
It was about time I changed this.
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Really?Jerian wrote:[
b̰æ̰k̰ ɪ̰n̰ m̰ɑ̰ḭ d̰ḛɪ̰, w̰y̰ s̰p̰o̰ʊ̰k̰ t̰ʰṵʊ̰ æ̰ṵʊ̰r̰ ɛ̰l̰d̰ɜ̰ʁ̰z̰ w̰ɪ̰θ̰ ə̰ b̰ɪ̰t̰ m̰o̰r̰ r̰ɛ̰s̰p̰ʰɛ̰ʔ̰t
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bək ən mə dəj, wə dəd nət həv vəwəl kwələtəz. Wə wəz kəntənt wəθ ən əpənθətək ʃwə wən wə nədəd wən. nəw, jə kədz wəθ jəɹ nəw-fəŋgəld "frœnt røyndʉd vøyɶlz" θənk jəɹ səəə kəl. wəl jəɹ nøt... əj mən, "nət".Jerian wrote:[
b̰æ̰k̰ ɪ̰n̰ m̰ɑ̰ḭ d̰ḛɪ̰, w̰y̰ s̰p̰o̰ʊ̰k̰ t̰ʰṵʊ̰ æ̰ṵʊ̰r̰ ɛ̰l̰d̰ɜ̰ʁ̰z̰ w̰ɪ̰θ̰ ə̰ b̰ɪ̰t̰ m̰o̰r̰ r̰ɛ̰s̰p̰ʰɛ̰ʔ̰t
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Surprisingly easy to understand. Why have different vowels?Vuvuzela wrote:bək ən mə dəj, wə dəd nət həv vəwəl kwələtəz. Wə wəz kəntənt wəθ ən əpənθətək ʃwə wən wə nədəd wən. nəw, jə kədz wəθ jəɹ nəw-fəŋgəld "frœnt røyndʉd vøyɶlz" θənk jəɹ səəə kəl. wəl jəɹ nøt... əj mən, "nət".Jerian wrote:[
b̰æ̰k̰ ɪ̰n̰ m̰ɑ̰ḭ d̰ḛɪ̰, w̰y̰ s̰p̰o̰ʊ̰k̰ t̰ʰṵʊ̰ æ̰ṵʊ̰r̰ ɛ̰l̰d̰ɜ̰ʁ̰z̰ w̰ɪ̰θ̰ ə̰ b̰ɪ̰t̰ m̰o̰r̰ r̰ɛ̰s̰p̰ʰɛ̰ʔ̰t
It was about time I changed this.
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Creaky voice and glottalisation are different.Jabechasqvi wrote:You could glottalize the voiceless consonants.2-4 wrote:I thought it is impossible to make voiceless consonants creaky voiced.
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Imralu wrote:I don't know, Ean, but from what I've gleaned from this thread, I think it's when the road is clogged with giant penises.Ean wrote:...what's snow?
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Not so much. Glottalization means constriction of the glottis to some degree; creaky voicing is one such degree. Glottalized consonants quite often involve creaky voicing, either as their main glottal action, or as a transition leading into full glottal closure (because as the glottis closes it passes through the "creaky" position). It even happens in English, where /p t tS k/ in coda position are "glottally reinforced", which causes transitional creaking on the previous vowel; not enough to sound like anything much, but it does show up on spectrograms.2-4 wrote: Creaky voice and glottalisation are different.
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Where did you get that quote from? I can't find it.cedh audmanh wrote:Vuvuzela wrote:...