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Thry wrote:Ναι της αλα κύρα! (lit. you have no cure!)
You can't be helped!
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É, ni rote lo vepirane e rotafine o kumoge „giaro“?
Hey, are we talking about conjugations of verbs meaning "fuck"?

Sino sá no paleto:
This is the Palethian one:
Rógavo: giaro
Infinitive

Namasévo (giar-): giare giare giaro giari giara giare
Imperfective

Masévo (giar-): giariese giariese giarieso giariesi giariesa giariese
Perfective

Nabopuavo(?) (giodu-): giodue giodue gioduo giodui giodui giodue
Irrealis

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"giariese" ŭiduru com une familie Italieŭ dur medieĭ ereĭ.
"Giarese" seems like a family of medieval Italy.
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'giaro' , Vayadyio, 'traisido i giaréni mali' [/i ]soprada. Sico atiro a sparyintio sirgara?

giaro, in Vayardyio, means 'man' [litt.: with-spirit sex GEN male GEN]. What relation is there with fucking?
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Mmmm, davane ki fisiede pihuimai íe giodua?
[mːː daˈβane kiɸiʃeˈde piˈxu̯imai̯ ˈi.e gi̯oˈdu̯a]
Hmmm, are men not usually created by fucking?

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Meu mee ras sue tee nie ene sie mee, daroue iet nie ene.
world in money under all with have COP.1 in, that:but nothing with have
/ˈmɛʊ mɛ ˈras sə ˈtsɛ njɪ ˈɛnəz mɛ ˈdarəʊ ˈjɪts njɪ ɛnə/

I have all the money in the world, yet I have nothing.

(Not really, but it’s what came to me when I was thinking of a sentence to use to try out a new IPA keyboard.)

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Pazmivaniye wrote:Mmmm, davane ki fisiede pihuimai íe giodua?
[mːː daˈβane kiɸiʃeˈde piˈxu̯imai̯ ˈi.e gi̯oˈdu̯a]
Hmmm, are men not usually created by fucking?
Σι, κη λα θεράμικα ήρα λημαίς αβορρησσήν.
si, kh la theramika hra lhmais avorrhsshn
Yes, because pottery was too boring.
Sevly wrote:Meu mee ras sue tee nie ene sie mee, daroue iet nie ene.
world in money under all with have COP.1 in, that:but nothing with have
/ˈmɛʊ mɛ ˈras sə ˈtsɛ njɪ ˈɛnəz mɛ ˈdarəʊ ˈjɪts njɪ ɛnə/

I have all the money in the world, yet I have nothing.
Κλα η ναι, ναι άλλο γαστάρο ασκώ!
kla h nai, nai allo gastaro askw!
Of course you don't; you haven't spent it yet!

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Yagia wrote:'giaro' , Vayadyio, 'traisido i giaréni mali' [/i ]soprada. Sico atiro a sparyintio sirgara?

giaro, in Vayardyio, means 'man' [litt.: with-spirit sex GEN male GEN]. What relation is there with fucking?


Pudáb titskanwātitsože xart kïí "ơtà" "haˀakon" kïí "fɛŋnu" "haˀakewa".
In Tonkawa the word for "man", "haˀakon", is derived from the word "haˀakewa", meaning "to sexually penetrate".
I did have a bizarrely similar (to the original poster's) accident about four years ago, in which I slipped over a cookie and somehow twisted my ankle so far that it broke
What kind of cookie?
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Naeetlrcreejl wrote: Pudáb titskanwātitsože xart kïí "ơtà" "haˀakon" kïí "fɛŋnu" "haˀakewa".
In Tonkawa the word for "man", "haˀakon", is derived from the word "haˀakewa", meaning "to sexually penetrate".
E no de Hakonoĭ Norŭeġieŭ com ta mogut mena?
And not from Haakon of Norway as one might think?
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Naeetlrcreejl wrote:Pudáb titskanwātitsože xart kïí "ơtà" "haˀakon" kïí "fɛŋnu" "haˀakewa".
In Tonkawa the word for "man", "haˀakon", is derived from the word "haˀakewa", meaning "to sexually penetrate".
A e se sá roi o kumoga „hime“ - „liriyedo linamai“?
[a e ˈse ˈsa ˈroi̯ o kuˈmoga xiˈme | liriʒeˈdo liˈnamai̯]
And from what is the word for "woman" - "to be sexually penetrated"?

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Pazmivaniye wrote:A e se sá roi o kumoga „hime“ - „liriyedo linamai“?
[a e ˈse ˈsa ˈroi̯ o kuˈmoga xiˈme | liriʒeˈdo liˈnamai̯]
And from what is the word for "woman" - "to be sexually penetrated"?
Ikájä "lō" fiq camandiš dámnas.
The word for "woman" actually has its own root, which I can't remember.
I did have a bizarrely similar (to the original poster's) accident about four years ago, in which I slipped over a cookie and somehow twisted my ankle so far that it broke
What kind of cookie?
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Thry wrote:Ναι ίω! Τυαλ ης λα κωνυγαιών λη φωτή; Σης λα μεία:
I didn't! What's your conjugation for fuck? This is mine:
Qué? El paradeigma complèt? Bèn:
What? The complete paradigm? OK:

Presènt del' indicativ: jèu fot, toi foti, jal fot, noi fotam, voi fotaitei, jai fot
Presènt del conjunctiv: fota, fote, fota, fotam, fotaitei, fota
Imperfèt del' indicativ: fotaja, fotaje, fotaja, foteam, foteatei, fotaja
Imperfèt del conjunctiv: fotis, fotisi, fotis, fotísem, fotistei, fotis
Pretérit: fotòi, fotòsti, fotò, fotoim, fotòstei, fotòr
Futur: fudrài, fudré, fudrà, fudram, fudraitei, fudrà
Praim condiseunal: fudraja, fudraje, fudraja, fudram, fudraitei, fudraja
Secund condiseunal: fudra, fudre, fudra, fudram, fudratei, fudra


Clar, quès n'includaja rèn le fòrme analítique.
Of course, this doesn't include the analytic forms.
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Knoo?
Fuck?

Myoniean

Anshiftti: knooen
Duiŋ: knooiŋ
Hwiilatia ovurfildi: knooin
Pestia ovurfildi: gaknooen

Hwiilatibaextti: i knooa, ðyuu knoost, shi/it knooz, wi/yu/ði knooen
Pestibaextti: i knuu, ðyuu knuua, shi/it knuu, wi/yu/ði knuuen

Hwiilatiandurextti: i/ðyuu/shi/it knooda, wi/yu/ði knooden
Pestiandurextti: i/ðyuu/shi/it knuuda, wi/yu/ði knuuden

Kastamti: i/ðyuu/shi/it knoo, wi/yu/ði knooez


Myonian

Infinitive: knooen
Gerund: knooiŋ
Present participle: knooin
Past participle: gaknooen

Present indicative: I knooa, you knoost, he/she/it knooz, we/y'all/they knooen
Past indicative: I knuu, you knuua, he/she/it knuu, we/y'all/they knuuen

Present subjunctive: I/you/he/she/it knooda, we/y'all/they knooden
Past subjunctive: I/you/he/she/it knuuda, we/y'all/they knuuden

Imperative: I/you/he/she/it knoo, we/y'all/they knooez
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@ Lyhoko:
Nu ta pronomuni tau sam toyaf parmaitatif germanisci funnarai, al póca's etymologi térun nómunamunun grammaticérun? Wit ni pargunnom naina germanisca.
PRT ART.N.NOM.PL pronoun-NOM.PL 2SG.GEN with ART.F.INSTR.SG conjugation-INSTR.SG germanic-ADV look-3PL.PRES.ACTUAL, but which-F.NOM.SG be.3SG.PRES.ACTUAL.ENCL etymology-NOM.SG ART.N.GEN.PL designation-GEN.PL grammatical-N.GEN.PL? PRT NEG recognize-1SG.PRES.ACTUAL none-N.ACC.PL germanic-N.ACC.PL
Your pronouns and the conjugation look Germanic, but what is the etymology of the grammatical terms? I don't recoginze anything Germanic.

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Thry wrote:Ναι ίω! Τυαλ ης λα κωνυγαιών λη φωτή; Σης λα μεία:
I didn't! What's your conjugation for fuck? This is mine:
zósna - to fuck
- from Proto-Nafís *žōnəsa

Non-future (NFUT): zósnam, zósne zóns zósnamo
Future (FUT): zósnamp, zósneps, zósnepi, zósnampo
Retrospective (RET): zósneram, zósneres, zósneri, zósnabro

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Here's what I have now for Hanheliubl, but I'm going to change all this.

tunsiu:

Sight: tunhɯ:knen tunhɯ:kneẓ tunhɯ:kne:k tunhɯ:kten tunhɯ:kteẓ tunhɯ:kte:k tunhɯ:rron tunhɯ:rroẓ tunhɯ:rro:k
Smell: tumnen tumneẓ tumne:k tumten tumteẓ tumte:k tumron tumroẓ tumro:k
Hearsay: tunsinen tunsineẓ tunsine:k tunsiten tunsiteẓ tunsite:k tunsiron tunsiroẓ tunsiro:k
Memory: tunrẹnen tunrẹneẓ tunrẹne:k tunrẹten tunrẹteẓ tunrẹte:k tuŋkẹron tuŋkẹroẓ tuŋkẹro:k
Irrealis tunnen tunneẓ tunne:k tunten tunteẓ tunte:k tuŋron tuŋroẓ tuŋro:k
Subjunctive: tunvonen tunvoneẓ tunvone:k tunvoten tunvoteẓ tunvote:k tunvoron tunvoroẓ tunvoro:k

Antipassive:
Sight: tuŋreuknen tuŋreukneẓ tuŋreukne:k tuŋreukten tuŋreukteẓ tuŋreukte:k tuŋkiurron tuŋkiurroẓ tuŋkiurro:k
Smell: tumrenen tumreneẓ tumrene:k tumreten tumreteẓ tumrete:k tumreron tumreroẓ tumrero:k
Hearsay: tuŋresinen tuŋresineẓ tuŋresine:k tuŋresiten tuŋresiteẓ tuŋresite:k tuŋresiron tuŋresiroẓ tuŋresiro:k
Memory: tuŋkerẹnen tuŋkerẹneẓ tuŋkerẹne:k tuŋkerẹten tuŋkerẹteẓ tuŋkerẹte:k tuŋrekẹron tuŋrekẹroẓ tuŋrekẹro:k
Irrealis tuŋrenen tuŋreneẓ tuŋrene:k tuŋreten tuŋreteẓ tuŋrete:k tuŋkeron tuŋkeroẓ tuŋkero:k
Subjunctive: tuŋrevonen tuŋrevoneẓ tuŋrevone:k tuŋrevoten tuŋrevoteẓ tuŋrevote:k tuŋrevoron tuŋrevoroẓ tuŋrevoro:k
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hwhatting wrote:@ Lyhoko:
Nu ta pronomuni tau sam toyaf parmaitatif germanisci funnarai, al póca's etymologi térun nómunamunun grammaticérun? Wit ni pargunnom naina germanisca.
PRT ART.N.NOM.PL pronoun-NOM.PL 2SG.GEN with ART.F.INSTR.SG conjugation-INSTR.SG germanic-ADV look-3PL.PRES.ACTUAL, but which-F.NOM.SG be.3SG.PRES.ACTUAL.ENCL etymology-NOM.SG ART.N.GEN.PL designation-GEN.PL grammatical-N.GEN.PL? PRT NEG recognize-1SG.PRES.ACTUAL none-N.ACC.PL germanic-N.ACC.PL
Your pronouns and the conjugation look Germanic, but what is the etymology of the grammatical terms? I don't recoginze anything Germanic.
Anshiftti ist an+shiften+ti, an is un, shift ist decide iend ist madridaix mid shift, ti ist T>G oor G>G. (an undecided verb - infinitive)
Anshiftti is an+shiften+ti, an is un, shift is decide, and is cognate with shift, ti is verb>noun or noun>noun.

Duiŋ ist a duiŋ av dunz, hwich ist do. (A doing - gerund)
Duiŋ is a gerund of dun, which is do.

Hwiilati ist hwiila+ti, hwiila ist while. Ovurfildi ist overfilen+ti, ovurfilen ist replace. (a present "replaced" verb - present participle)
Hwiilati is hwiila+ti, hwiila is while. Ovurfildi is overfilen+ti, ovurfilen is replace.

Pesti ist pesen+ti, pesen ist pass. (a past "replaced" verb - past participle)
Pesti is pesen+ti, pesen is pass.

Baextti ist baexten+ti, baexten ist point out, exten ist pay attention to. Ði duiŋ av extenz ist madridaix mid Daich Achtung. (a present indicating verb - present indicative)
Baextti is baexten+ti, baexten is point out, exten is pay attention to. The gerund of exten is cognate with German Achtung.

Pestibaextti: (a past indicating verb - past indicative)

Andurextti ist andurexten+ti, andurexten ist infer. (a present inferring verb - present subjunctive)
Andurextti is andurexten+ti, andurexten is infer.

Pestiandurextti: (a past inferring verb - past subjunctive)

Kastamti ist kastam+ti, kastam ist order, rule and ist madridaix mid custom. (An order verb - imperative)
Kastamti is kastam+ti, kastam is order, rule and is cognate with custom.

(Myonian is spoken by people who were originally from Earth, but were moved to another planet by aliens, so they no longer had contact with Earth languages like Latin to take grammatical (and other) terms from. It is descended from Old English.)
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Lyhoko Leaci wrote:(Myonian is spoken by people who were originally from Earth, but were moved to another planet by aliens, so they no longer had contact with Earth languages like Latin to take grammatical (and other) terms from. It is descended from Old English.)
Ah, interesting. How did it gain words cognate to pass or custom, as these are 12th/13th century loans from Old French?

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And that is why you should consult etymological dictionaries before you attempt to cleanse a language of a thousand years of influence.
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Yaufultile:
in Yaufulti

"Fuck" "nifii" luse
fuck is "nifii"

Fuzupiyu:
[Conjugation]
Non-future Positive Indicative Perfective: ninifii
Non-future Positive Indicative Imperfective: linifii
Future Positive Indicative Perfective: sinnifii
Future Positive Indicative Imperfective: silnifii
Non-future Negative Indicative Perfective: yannifii
Non-future Negative Indicative Imperfective: yalnifii
Future Negative Indicative Perfective: yasinnifii
Future Negative Indicative Imperfective: yasilnifii
Non-future Positive Interrogative Perfective: fannifii
Non-future Positive Interrogative Imperfective: falnifii
Future Positive Interrogative Perfective: sunnifii
Future Positive Interrogative Imperfective: sulnifii
Non-future Negative Interrogative Perfective: yafannifii
Non-future Negative Interrogative Imperfective: yafalnifii
Future Negative Interrogative Perfective: yasunnifii
Future Negative Interrogative Imperfective: yasulnifii

Tables like this are a bit useless for Yaufulti, though, because it's agglutinative and almost always regular. So, we can say instead:
Aspect is n- for perfective and l- for imperfective. If this creates an illegal cluster, a vowel is inserted, reduplicated from the first vowel of the verb.
Tense is si- for future and nothing for non-future.
Interrogatives use su- for future and fa- for non-future instead.
Negatives are marked with ya-.
Person agreement is done with suffixes, object first and then subject.
1st person: -te
2nd: -za
3rd: -nu (except that we usually duplicate the determiner of the dependent noun instead)
(These suffixes also change depending on the count/mass status of the person/people, but that doesn't tend to apply for verbs like "fuck" unless we're talking about a city or an ant colony or something, so let's just say that singular/plural doesn't matter)
Passive is the suffix -ti. There are also a bunch of modality-like suffixes, but these are better analyzed as compounds (also I'm thinking of changing them to prefixes, as that would put them in line with adverbs and adjectives):
paite (try to); nupui (can/able to); sape (can/allowed to); kusa (stop _ing); ligi (start _ing); fate (keep _ing); puu (maybe); pin (would/conditional); liku (I hope _; let's _; optative); seuti (I want to _); kaku (must, have to); fan (surely, definitely); til (please)
There's no infinitive, you just conjugate the second person future, but you can use -til or -liku to soften it.

Upshot of this:
I fucked you: Ninifiizate
You fucked me: Ninifiiteza
I'm fucking you/I was fucking you: Linifiizate
I didn't fuck you: Yannifiizate
Did you fuck him?: Fannifiinuza?
They're fucking/He's fucking her/They were fucking/etc: Linifiinu(nu)
Are they fucking?: Falnifiinu?
I'm gonna fuck you: Sinnifiizate
Are you gonna fuck me?: Sunnifiiteza?
I wanna fuck you: Sinnifiiseutizate
Do you wanna fuck me?: Sunnifiiseutiteza?
I don't wanna fuck him: Yasinnifiiseutinute
I tried to fuck him: Ninifiipaitenute
I might fuck him: Sinnifiipuunute
Let's fuck: Sinnifiilikute
Fuck me!/You will fuck me: Sinnifiiteza
Please fuck me: Sinnifiitilteza
I hope you'll fuck me: Sinnifiilikuteza

Have fun.
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Yiizun, gulyul sinnifiiseutigulte. Kei luseteyi, yalkanepaltite.
also, some-person fut-pfv-fuck-want-agr-1. red cop-1=and, neg-ipfv-satisfy-pass-1
Also, I'd like to fuck someone. I'm horny and unsatisfied.
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Jèu compartèsc tòa pietat. Çò jè adura tant tèmp que jèu hai ovletat comu emplecarlo.
I sympathise. It's been so long that I've forgotten what to do with it.
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Fuesit-voi liare aucuno a fotre, voi do.
May both of you find somebody to fuck.

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Nat laukaf kaunis
[nɑð 'lɑukaβ 'kɑunis]
That sounds interesting

Experimeting with some proto-Germanic.
Last edited by Herr Dunkel on Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:04 am, edited 2 times in total.
sano wrote:
To my dearest Darkgamma,
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Sincerely,
sano

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