The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

[Viktor77]

Root [ɻut] (I get some labialization on intial <r>s, but it varies a lot. <red> in particular is heavily labialized; <root> not nearly as much.)
Roof [ɻuf] (I pronounce most similar words with [ʌ] now, such as <broom> -> [bɻʌm]. I think I just overcorrect <roof> to not be teased.)
Hoof [hʌf]

Roots [ɻuts]
Roofs [ɻṳvz]
Hoofs [ɦʌ̤vz]

Roofing [ɻu.fɪ̈ŋ ~ ɻṳ.vɪ̈ŋ]

piling ['pɐɪ̯.lɪ̈ŋ]
fouling ['fæ.lɪ̈ŋ]
foiling ['fɔɪ̯.lɪ̈ŋ]
peeling ['pʰi.lɪ̈ŋ]
pooling ['pʰu.lɪ̈ŋ]
mailing ['meɪ̯.lɪ̈ŋ]
polling ['pʰoʊ̯.lɪ̈ŋ]
firing ['fɐɪ̯.ɻɪ̈ŋ]
flouring ['flæʊ̯.ɻɪ̈ŋ]
Moira ['mo̞ɪ̯.ɻə] (not really sure what this is)

peering ['pʰiɪ̯.ɻɪ̈ŋ]
mooring ['mɔʊ̯.ɻɪ̈ŋ]
bearing ['beɪ.ɻɪ̈ŋ]
boring ['bɔʊ̯.ɻɪ̈ŋ]

General location: US Mid-Atlantic

I know I was once rather negative towards phonemic transcription, but now I realise its value.

[ol bofosh]

in england, not the uk. stop it.

Unfortunately, we share the same snobs. What's really weird is hearing from an RP speaker [aɪm ˈskɒ.tɪʃ θruː ænd θruː].

[Thry]

Well, from an outsider's POV, British English = English English has always been my impression (received pronunciation, the Queen's English, what is taught here; that is... BE is certainly something people say/use/teach). Is that widespread synecdoche annoying to you Finlay xD?

[2+3 clusivity]

I know I was once rather negative towards phonemic transcription, but now I realise its value

Meaning my allophonic transcription sickened you of that whole affair? Or, that my "allophonic" transcription was narrow enough to be phonemic?

[ol bofosh]

Well, from an outsider's POV, British English = English English has always been my impression (received pronunciation, the Queen's English, what is taught here; that is... BE is certainly something people say/use/teach). Is that widespread synecdoche annoying to you Finlay xD?

The upper class are the same all over the UK. Except the Scottish nobs dance around in kilts exclaiming "What-ho!" (I remember a comedy with Richard Briers where all the "Scottish" toffs spoke with RP accents)

Before seeing your post I didn't know what a synecdoche was. And when I'll finish this post I probably forget.
Pronunciation guess: [ˈsɪ.nək.dɜʉʃ ~ ˈsɪ.nək.dɜʉtʃ]
Wiki: /sɪˈnɛkdəkiː/
Woops.
Proving I am not of the upper class, otherwise I'd probably know how to pronounce this suspiciously toff-looking word.
[sɪ̈.ˈnɛk.də.kɪɨ̯] it is then.

[Viktor77]

I know I was once rather negative towards phonemic transcription, but now I realise its value

Meaning my allophonic transcription sickened you of that whole affair? Or, that my "allophonic" transcription was narrow enough to be phonemic?

It was more narrow than others I've seen, but not enough to be phonemic in my book. But we could debate what's phonemic all day long, I suppose.

[Hallow XIII]

Well, from an outsider's POV, British English = English English has always been my impression (received pronunciation, the Queen's English, what is taught here; that is... BE is certainly something people say/use/teach). Is that widespread synecdoche annoying to you Finlay xD?

The upper class are the same all over the UK. Except the Scottish nobs dance around in kilts exclaiming "What-ho!" (I remember a comedy with Richard Briers where all the "Scottish" toffs spoke with RP accents)

Before seeing your post I didn't know what a synecdoche was. And when I'll finish this post I probably forget.
Pronunciation guess: [ˈsɪ.nək.dɜʉʃ ~ ˈsɪ.nək.dɜʉtʃ]
Wiki: /sɪˈnɛkdəkiː/
Woops.
Proving I am not of the upper class, otherwise I'd probably know how to pronounce this suspiciously toff-looking word.
[sɪ̈.ˈnɛk.də.kɪɨ̯] it is then.

It's quite astounding how all of these Greek loans haven't yet switched to spelling pronunciation (well, that is, less astounding if you remember that the educated Eton toffs are the only people to use such words...)

It's like epitome.

[2+3 clusivity]

I know I was once rather negative towards phonemic transcription, but now I realise its value

Meaning my allophonic transcription sickened you of that whole affair? Or, that my "allophonic" transcription was narrow enough to be phonemic?

The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

I am not sure what value a phonemic transcription would have here--in this thread.

<roof>, /ɻuf/, [ɻuf]
<roofs>, /ɻufs/, [ɻuvz]

The "How do You Phonemicize X Thread" would be pretty asinine. Are you suggesting people should attempt more narrow transcriptions?

[Nesescosac]

Forgive me for necroing the thread, but how do y'all pronounce "ZBBer"? I've always said [zɪbə˞].

[finlay]

I started mentally pronouncing it a long time ago as [zʌbɚ] or [zəbɚ]. But in real life I'd say "board members", or "ZBB members" if for some reason it's not clear (and I say [zibibi] rather than [zɛdbibi] fuck you britain).

[Thry]

[θe.βe.ˈβeɾ]

(doesn't make sense in Spanish either - Finlay, it's pretty interesting you analyze the Z as /zi:/ and not /zɛd/, cos I kind of do the equivalent, /θe/ and not /ˈθe.ta/ [but I said it doesn't make sense because /θe/ is also "c"]).

In English I'd go /zi.bi.ˈbiɚ/ (zeebee beer) or /ˈzi.bi.bɚ/ (zéábeaber).

[ol bofosh]

[zɛd.bɪ̈.'bɪi̯.ɜ] or [zɛd.bɪ̈.'bɪi̯ɜ̯] (Not two different pronunciations; I'm confused about the last syllable thing)

Posh: [zɛd.biː.ˈbiː.ə]
Vulgar: [zɛbːʊ̈.ˈbɪə̯]

I don't bother mentalising it normally, and have never actually said it.

(and I say [zibibi] rather than [zɛdbibi] fuck you britain)

You sell out! Mind you, so did I for a while, after watching too much Sesame Street... before any prejudices, you know.

[finlay]

I alternate depending on which sounds better. here zedbibi is harder to pronounce..

[ol bofosh]

True, zeebeebee does flow a lot better.

[Ser]

[ˌse.ta.βe.βe̯a.ˈðo.ɾes]

[Izambri]

ZBB [ˈziβiβi:]

ZBBer [ˈzɐβəβəɾ] (often the r is mute, which causes the lengthening of the previous vowel)

[Thry]

[ˌse.ta.βe.βe̯a.ˈðo.ɾes]

mushroom-zed merger never fails to make me smile
[θe.βe.ˈβe.ɾos]

[Nortaneous]

cauliflower
cheddar

[----]

[ˈkʰaːɫifɫæwəɹ]
[ˈtʃɛɾəɹ]

I can get why you'd ask about cauliflower, but what's the interest in 'cheddar'?

[Pole, the]

Forgive me for necroing the thread, but how do y'all pronounce "ZBBer"? I've always said [zɪbə˞].

[ʒβːer].

[R.Rusanov]

I say kʰɑɫɪfɫɑəɹ where the downglide on the "r" is inescapable so my pronunciation is identical to, say, "cauliflaur"

[Ser]

[ˌse.ta.βe.βe̯a.ˈðo.ɾes]

mushroom-zed merger never fails to make me smile :D
[θe.βe.ˈβe.ɾos]

mushroom-zed?

[----]

I'm almost certain he's referring to "seta" vs. "zeta"

[Ser]

Oh, I see. I'm obviously not enough into biology to think of scientific terms like seta. q:

[ol bofosh]

I'm almost certain he's referring to "seta" vs. "zeta"

¡Claaarooo! Clever.