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Obulamga: my first attempt at conlanging.

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Obulamga or "Godspeech" is intended to be the language of the gods within my conworld. It was initially intended to be a naming language to name the characters' souls to distinguish them in reincarnation lines. As I thought on and developed it, I fell in love with it, so now is a little more than just a naming language.

Anilinolamgoldo amaleba abal.
[ˈanilinɔlamˌɢɔldɔ ˈamaˌlɛba ˈabal]
Nothing-LOC-created-TOPIC is-permanent the-one-SUBJ.
About wherever nothing has-been-created, exists the one.
Before anything, there was the One.

Onido maleba ablin.
[ˈɔnidɔ ˈmalɛba ˈablin]
Everything-TOPIC dwell the-one-LOC.
Everything was in the One.

Abdo abaol.
[ˈabdɔ ˈabaɔl]
The-one-TOPIC is-the-void.
The One is the void.

Abdo sebam am.
[ˈabdɔ ˈsɛbam am]
The-one-TOPIC transforms-into the-dual.
The One transforms into the Dual.

Abdo lamga ama.
[ˈabdɔ ˈlamɢa ˈama]
The-One-TOPIC spawns the-womb.
The One spawns the womb.

Onido ama lamga.
[ˈɔnidɔ ˈama ˈlamɢa]
Everything-TOPIC The-Womb spawns.
Everything comes from the womb.

Ab sa amado amol.
[ab sa ˈamadɔ ˈamɔl]
The-one and-collective the-womb-TOPIC is-the-dual.
The One and the womb together is the Dual.

Amado lamga oniolamgol.
[ˈamadɔ ˈlamɢa ˈɔniɔˌlamɢɔl]
The-womb-TOPIC spawns everything-created.
The womb spawns everything that exists.

Amado lamga olbo.
[ˈamadɔ ˈlamɢa ˈɔlbɔ]
The-womb-TOPIC spawns the-overseer.
The womb spawns the Overseer.

Onionlamgol sa amado obulol.
[ˈɔniɔnˌlamɢɔl sa ˈamadɔ ˈɔbulɔl]
Everything-created and-collective the-Dual is-the-Triad.
Everything that exists and the Dual is the Triad.

Onionlamgoldo olbool.
[ˈɔniɔnlamˌɢɔldɔ ˈɔlbɔɔl]
Everything-created-TOPIC is-the-overseer.
Everything that exists is the Overseer.

Olbodo sabiranol.
[ˈɔlbɔdɔ ˈsabiˌɾanɔl]
The -overseer is-collective-conciousness.
The Overseer is collective conciousness.

Abdo bol.
[ˈabdɔ bɔl]
The-One-TOPIC is-divine.
The One is God.

Amado bol.
[ˈamadɔ bɔl]
The-Dual-TOPIC is-divine.
The Dual is God.

Obuldo bol.
[ˈɔbuldɔ bɔl]
The-Triad-TOPIC is-divine.
The Triad is God.

Obum mabe obuldo.
[ˈɔbum ˈmabɛ ˈɔbuldɔ]
Obu-OBJ is-named the-triad-TOPIC.
Obu is the name of God.

Obudo abol.
[ˈɔbudɔ ˈabɔl]
Obu-TOPIC is-one.
Obu is one.

Obugeerdo umbagli oni.
[ˈɔbuˌɢɛɛɾdɔ ˈumbaɢli ˈɔni]
Obu-only-TOPIC can-perceive everything.
Only Obu can see everything.

Obugeerdo umsamam oni.
[ˈɔbuˌɢɛɛɾdɔ ˈumsamam ˈɔni]
Obu-only-TOPIC can-do everything
Only Obu can do everything.

Obugeerdo oniol.
[ˈɔbuˌɢɛɛɾdɔ ˈɔniɔl]
Obu-only-TOPIC is-everything
Only Obu is everything.

Obudo lamim "aan ililol", ililom lamgailom.
[ˈɔbudɔ ˈlamim aan ˈililɔl, ˈililɔm ˈlamˌɢailɔm]
Obu-TOPIC says-CAUSE "IMP is-light", light-OBJ is-spawn-EFFECT.
Obu said; "there be the light", and the light was spawned.

Onibo samamim, mobólilom, aan noljoo, Amobu.
[ˈɔnibɔ ˈsamamim, mɔˈbɔlilɔm, aan ˈnɔldʒɔɔ, ˈamɔbu]
"Anything-TOPIC done-CAUSE, results-EFFECT, IMP is-law-that", said-by-Obu.
Obu said "whatever done has a consequence, be it a law".

It has been good practice to learn about linguistics, but I still has a long way to go.
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Well, it's nice that you like your lang, and I must admit that just from your transcriptions it looks rather nice-sounding, but, uh...

I can't really say anything about it without you giving at least a rough grammar of the language.
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Sir Gwalchafad wrote:I can't really say anything about it without you giving at least a rough grammar of the language.
Sorry about that. I'll provide some comments on grammar later. I was just in some hurry by the time.
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Since it originally was intended to be a naming language meant to be the language of the gods, I figured it should sound nice; so I chose letters that both in English and Spanish sound nice to my ear.
I began it all by making a list of possible words by using:
C=bdgjlmnrsz
K=bdgjsz
V=aeiou
L=lmnr
R=lr

CV
VL
CVL
KRV
V
KRVL
as a rule. By running it repeatedly on Gen, copy/pasting the list to excel, sorting it, and eliminating duplicates; I made a list of over a thousand candidates. Remembering Mark's comments about Tolkien's Black Speech in his book, I decided to make a couple of sample sentences. I fell in love with the result and continued making them.

I made the final decision about the sounds after having a little text already written.

Phonological inventory:
Consonants
b
d [d]
g [ɢ]
j [dʒ]
l [l]
m [m]
n [n]
r [ɾ]
s [s]
z [z]

Vowels
a [a]
e [ɛ]
i
o [ɔ]
u

No allophones. Each phoneme consists on one phone.
There are no articles.
There are no personal pronouns.
Any possible pronoun is classified as noun and may take any noun inflection.
The verb's basic form works universally. No inflections are required. When the verb is in its basic form it means no inflection is specified. No assumption is made.
The first syllable is stressed, with a secondary stress on the penultimate syllable when the word is more than 3 syllables long.
There are no tenses. Time is another "spatial dimension" for the gods.
Adjectives can either attach to nouns as "sufixes", or they may stand alone as verbs. When they attach to the nouns, they follow any declension.
Adverbs never function as stand alone words. They attach to verbs, adjectives or other adverbs as whether they were sufixes.
Noun inflections order: gender, number, definiteness, adjectives.
Verb inflections order: to be determined.

Anilinolamgoldo amaleba abal.
[ˈanilinɔlamˌɢɔldɔ ˈamaˌlɛba ˈabal]
Nothing-LOC-created-TOPIC is-permanent the-one-SUBJ.
About wherever nothing has-been-created, exists the one.
Before anything, there was the One.
Ani-lin-olamgol-do
ani [ˈani] n. nothing
-lin [-lin] Location sufix. It marks a noun as a location.
olamgol [ˈɔlamɢɔl] adj. created
-do [-dɔ] topic marker
"-do" marks the whole word as the topic of the sentence in a manner similar to Japanese postposition "wa"; but it is a sufix.
"Amaleba" means "is permanent" and it's another adjective, this time working as a verb. It's formed with the verb "maleba" meaning "to dwell" and the "a-" prefix which is progressive. Thus "amaleba" may also mean "to be dwelling" in some contexts. "Abal" is "ab" (The One) with the subject marker "-al"; I think this is called nominative case, not sure.
The sentence could have been written as "Anilinolamgoldo ab amaleba"; "Before anything, the One was.". The canonical order of a clause is SVO. When a clause is ordered that way, no nominative or acusative case needs to be marked.
The sentence could have also been written as "Abdo amaleba anilinolamgol"; "God exists where nothing has been created". In this case, the "-lin" locative makes "aniolamgol" (nothing created) the location where the action happens.

Onido maleba ablin.
[ˈɔnidɔ ˈmalɛba ˈablin]
Everything-TOPIC dwell the-one-LOC.
Everything was in the One.
Here "maleba" is used in the sense of "dwell". "Oni" (everything) is marked as the topic. "Ab" (The One) is identified as the location where the action (dwelling) takes place. The subject is omitted, context tells it is filled with the topic of the sentence.

Abdo abaol.
[ˈabdɔ ˈabaɔl]
The-one-TOPIC is-the-void.
The One is the void.
Here "ab" is the topic. "Aba" means "The Void". The sufix "-ol" ambiguously converts a noun into an adjective or a nominal verb. In this case, "abaol" may mean "is The Void" or "is Void-like". Context with a bit of interpretation suggests "is The Void" as the best alternative here.
We can disambiguate it by using "-baol" (-ba + -ol) to make a nominal verb and "-bool" (-bo + -ol) to make an adjective. So "Abdo ababaol" unambiguously means "The One is the void".
By the way, attaching "-ba" to a noun makes it definite (lamga = a/the language; lamgaba = the language), and attaching "-bo" makes it indefinite (lamgabo = a language).

Abdo sebam am.
[ˈabdɔ ˈsɛbam am]
The-one-TOPIC transforms-into the-dual.
The One transforms into the Dual.
"Sebam" means "transforms into". Here "am" (The Dual) is the object by following the SVO canonical form.

Abdo lamga ama.
[ˈabdɔ ˈlamɢa ˈama]
The-One-TOPIC spawns the-womb.
The One spawns the womb.
As a noun, "lamga" means speech or language, as a verb it means speak, spawn or create.

Onido ama lamga.
[ˈɔnidɔ ˈama ˈlamɢa]
Everything-TOPIC The-Womb spawns.
Everything comes from the womb.
Here the topic fills the place of the omitted object.

Ab sa amado amol.
[ab sa ˈamadɔ ˈamɔl]
The-one and-collective the-womb-TOPIC is-the-dual.
The One and the womb together is the Dual.
"sa" is a conjunction meaning "collective and"; X and Y together. The topic marker "do" is attached to the second noun, making "ab sa ama" the topic of the sentence. "am" means "the Dual" or may mean number two. Context makes it obvious that here it means "The Dual".

Amado lamga oniolamgol.
[ˈamadɔ ˈlamɢa ˈɔniɔˌlamɢɔl]
The-womb-TOPIC spawns everything-created.
The womb spawns everything that exists.
"Oniolamgol" is "oni" (n. everything) + "olamgol" (adj. created).

Amado lamga olbo.
[ˈamadɔ ˈlamɢa ˈɔlbɔ]
The-womb-TOPIC spawns the-overseer.
The womb spawns the Overseer.
"Olbo" is "The Overseer", a collective consciousness made from the consciousnesses of every single god spawned from The Womb. All those gods are consciousnesses individualized to different degrees.

Oniolamgol sa amado obulol.
[ˈɔniɔˌlamɢɔl sa ˈamadɔ ˈɔbulɔl]
Everything-created and-collective the-Dual is-the-triad.
Everything that exists and the Dual is the Triad.
"The Triad" (obul) is the name given to the Void, the Womb, and the Overseer together.

Oniolamgoldo olbool.
[ˈɔniɔlamˌɢɔldɔ ˈɔlbɔɔl]
Everything-created-TOPIC is-the-overseer.
Everything that exists is the Overseer.

Olbodo sabiranol.
[ˈɔlbɔdɔ ˈsabiˌɾanɔl]
The-overseer is-collective-conciousness.
The Overseer is collective conciousness.
"Sabiran" = collective conciousness.

Abdo bol.
[ˈabdɔ bɔl]
The-One-TOPIC is-divine.
The One is God.
"Bol" is an adjective meaning "divine". Working as a verb, it means "to be divine". The sentence literally means "The One is divine", but the text makes it obvious that it not just has divine properties, but it's a god.

Amado bol.
[ˈamadɔ bɔl]
The-Womb-TOPIC is-divine.
The Womb is God.

Olbodo bol.
[ˈɔlbɔdɔ bɔl]
The-Overseer-TOPIC is-divine.
The Overseer is God.

Obum mabe obuldo.
[ˈɔbum ˈmabɛ ˈɔbuldɔ]
Obu-OBJ is-named the-triad-TOPIC.
Obu is the name of God.
"Obu + -m", Obu is here the object of the sentence. "-m" (or "-om" for consonant ending nouns) marks the noun as the object of the sentence (accussative case if my memory doesn't fail me). In this sentence, "Obul" is the topic, but it appears at the end of the sentence. In my conworld, "Obu" is the proper name of God.

Obudo abol.
[ˈɔbudɔ ˈabɔl]
Obu-TOPIC is-one.
Obu is one.
The sentence may also mean "Obu is The One". The sentence may be written "Obudo abbool" to unambiguously mean "Obu is one."

Obugeerdo umbagli oni.
[ˈɔbuˌɢɛɛɾdɔ ˈumbaɢli ˈɔni]
Obu-only-TOPIC can-perceive everything.
Only Obu can see everything.
"Obu-geer-do" = "Obu-only-TOPIC". "Geer" is an adverb meaning "only".
"Um-bagli" = "can-perceive". "Bagli" means perceive, observe, or watch. It expresses the ability of seeing beyond illusions to perceive the very fabrics of existence. The "um-" prefix denotes ability.

Obugeerdo umsamam oni.
[ˈɔbuˌɢɛɛɾdɔ ˈumsamam ˈɔni]
Obu-only-TOPIC can-do everything
Only Obu can do everything.
"Samam" = "do".

Obugeerdo oniol.
[ˈɔbuˌɢɛɛɾdɔ ˈɔniɔl]
Obu-only-TOPIC is-everything.
Only Obu is everything.

Obudo lamim "aan ililol", ililom lamgailom.
[ˈɔbudɔ ˈlamim aan ˈililɔl, ˈililɔm ˈlamˌɢailɔm]
Obu-TOPIC says-CAUSE "IMP is-light", light-OBJ is-spawn-EFFECT.
Obu said; "there be the light", and the light was spawned.
"Lam" means to say, to express. It's used to denote actual speech or to quote an expression. The sufix "-im" marks the entire clause as a cause.
"Aan", placed at the beginning of a clause, makes it a command. "Aan" may be used as a sufix to be attached to the noun/name whose referent receives the command.
"Lamga-ilom"; the "-ilom" sufix marks the clause as an effect. By putting an "-im" and an "-ilom" clauses side by side, we make a cause and effect sentence.

Onibo samamim, mobólilom, aan noljoo, Amobu.
[ˈɔnibɔ ˈsamamim, mɔˈbɔlilɔm, aan ˈnɔldʒɔɔ, ˈamɔbu]
"Anything-TOPIC done-CAUSE, results-EFFECT, IMP is-law-that", said-by-Obu.
Obu said "whatever done has a consequence, be it a law".
The "mobólilom" word is "moból" + "-ilom". "Moból" is a verb meaning "result". It's the only word that I currently have in my lexicon with irregular stress. Words with irregular stress usually retain it when inflected/declined. (This may cause problems. I'll see how this works out.)
"Noljo" + "-o"; "noljo" is an adjective that means "is a law". The "-o" sufix is basically a demonstrative pronoun that references the previous text. Thus "noljoo" means "that's a law" (lit. "Is-law-that").
The "Amobu" word that ends this sentence is "am- + Obu". "Am" means "said by", it's a short way to state that the whole sentence is a quote, and it identifies the speaker.

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Just a quick thought, it might be helpful to do the morpheme breakdown for your language in addition to the plain text so it'd be possible to identify individual morphemes/affixes more easily. Otherwise, you seem to be off to a good start, as my first attempt was essentially a cipher of English with next to no syntactic or morphological rules :P
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LeCiagoPanda wrote:Just a quick thought, it might be helpful to do the morpheme breakdown for your language in addition to the plain text so it'd be possible to identify individual morphemes/affixes more easily.
Do you mean something like what I began doing for my first sentence?:
Anilinolamgoldo amaleba abal.
[ˈanilinɔlamˌɢɔldɔ ˈamaˌlɛba ˈabal]
Nothing-LOC-created-TOPIC is-permanent the-one-SUBJ.
About wherever nothing has-been-created, exists the one.
Before anything, there was the One.
Ani-lin-olamgol-do
ani [ˈani] n. nothing
-lin [-lin] Location sufix. It marks a noun as a location.
olamgol [ˈɔlamɢɔl] adj. created
-do [-dɔ] topic marker
"-do" marks the whole word as the topic of the sentence in a manner similar to Japanese postposition "wa"; but it is a sufix.
"Amaleba" means "is permanent" and it's another adjective, this time working as a verb. It's formed with the verb "maleba" meaning "to dwell" and the "a-" prefix which is progressive. Thus "amaleba" may also mean "to be dwelling" in some contexts. "Abal" is "ab" (The One) with the subject marker "-al"; I think this is called nominative case, not sure.
The sentence could have been written as "Anilinolamgoldo ab amaleba"; "Before anything, the One was.". The canonical order of a clause is SVO. When a clause is ordered that way, no nominative or acusative case needs to be marked.
The sentence could have also been written as "Abdo amaleba anilinolamgol"; "God exists where nothing has been created". In this case, the "-lin" locative makes "aniolamgol" (nothing created) the location where the action happens.
Otherwise, you seem to be off to a good start, as my first attempt was essentially a cipher of English with next to no syntactic or morphological rules :P
Thank you. I have read Mark's book. That helps a lot.
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Well, there's a couple of things here: first off, your phonology is impossible on every level. You only have voiced plosives and you disrupt the velar series by declaring <g> uvular. Also you say there are no allophones. Well, none of these happen. Especially the "no allophones" part. If it ever happened that the formants of every sound in a language were identical in every position then sound change wouldn't be as pervasive as it is! (Yes, yes, I know, the Gods can break the laws and so on and so forth but if they're humanlike enough to have a spoken language of this type I argue that that is not applicable.)

Second: You say time is as another spatial dimension for the gods, so their language has no tense. Yet you derive a word with an affix that marks progressive aspect. That seems a bit incoherent.

Third: Case marking is optional unless canonical word order is violated? That seems like a very strange feature. Languages aren't "economic" with case marking. Either it's there or it's not.

Fourth, and most importantly: it seems you're already off to a good start, but note that morphology is only scratching the surface. Scores of new conlangers have made conlangs with weird morphology that still only amounted to English cyphers because their semiotics and semantics matched almost one-to-one and their morphosyntactic rules were fundamentally the same. Be careful not to fall into the same trap and read into these things!
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Sir Gwalchafad wrote:Well, there's a couple of things here: first off, your phonology is impossible on every level.
I'm glad actually to hear that.
You only have voiced plosives and you disrupt the velar series by declaring <g> uvular.
I'm considering to bring back the velar <g>. I'm finding the uvular one to be hard to pronounce after or .
Also you say there are no allophones. Well, none of these happen. Especially the "no allophones" part.

This was quite intentional. Allophones didn't make much sense in a language spoken by Gods, at least, the gods of my conworld.
If it ever happened that the formants of every sound in a language were identical in every position then sound change wouldn't be as pervasive as it is! (Yes, yes, I know, the Gods can break the laws and so on and so forth but if they're humanlike enough to have a spoken language of this type I argue that that is not applicable.)

Obulamga is not intended to be even similar to a human language. Conceptually, it is a "humanization" of the actual language which is spoken within the ether, not the air.
Second: You say time is as another spatial dimension for the gods, so their language has no tense. Yet you derive a word with an affix that marks progressive aspect. That seems a bit incoherent.

I have already noticed this and I've been thinking on this. For the Gods, all events are "happening" simultaneously. So events, for the Gods, are constructs of space, or I should say, constructs on a 15 dimensional "space" where time is just the fourth of them all. The progressive aspect is equivalent to being in the middle of something. An analogy would be, floating in the middle of a lake, where the lake would be the event on a 4 dimensions space. I've been thinking on eliminating the progressive aspect and replace it with locatives.
Third: Case marking is optional unless canonical word order is violated? That seems like a very strange feature. Languages aren't "economic" with case marking. Either it's there or it's not.

Good to know.
Fourth, and most importantly: it seems you're already off to a good start, but note that morphology is only scratching the surface. Scores of new conlangers have made conlangs with weird morphology that still only amounted to English cyphers because their semiotics and semantics matched almost one-to-one and their morphosyntactic rules were fundamentally the same. Be careful not to fall into the same trap and read into these things!

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Obulamga is not intended to be even similar to a human language. Conceptually, it is a "humanization" of the actual language which is spoken within the ether, not the air.
Um. At this point, your conlang makes no sense whatsoever. I'm afraid you'll have to explain the structure of the ether-language now and how it got mapped onto this.
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So it's essentially an alien language that's essentially a human language except for a few weird features that would mark a human conlang as noobish.

Hm.
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Much better than my first attempt.

I think you're missing a trick with the no-allophones. For one you could have the velar g be an allophone of uvular G before close vowels and that would solve your pronunciation problem.

Another thing is that it makes total sense for the laws of god-languages to make no sense at all.

"aspirate /p/ is an allophone of /j/ before rounded vowels"
"Why?"
"Ah, Gods, they are unknowable..."

I mean that's a bit ridiculous but given the insane levels of nonsense real languages get away with I think you're being a bit too safe with what applies for gods.

Bear in mind I am no decent conlanger - I enjoy affixing Zulu grammar to Austronesian words and calling it a Conlang for pete's sake.

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First, some inworld history:

The person who documented Godspeech was a Terran Argentinian named Dr. Anthony Roldán Cáceres. Dr. Roldán was born on November 01, 2024. The exact place of birth is veiled in legend, being the version that he was born in Buenos Aires the most popular one among the Cassiopeians (This word may mean the inhabitants of any star system located within Cassiopeia, the aliens that Dr. Roldán contacted, or the followers of the Cassiopeian religion).

From a very young age, little Tony was a rebel in religious matters. The son of Catholic parents, he declared himself evangelic by the age of three, mormon by five, and muslin by seven. By ten he claimed to be an ocultist to the dismay of his parents.

By the time he ended high school, around May 26, 2043, he was admitted into the unaccredited Escuela de Metafísica de Argentina (Argentina School of Metaphysics) where he got the doctor title that he displayed in his name.

During the first year through his doctoral studies, he got in contact with an alien race that called themselves "Cassiopeians". They claimed to inhabit a sixth density (a six-dimensions realm) planet. These were the beings that informed him that the upheavals Terra was experiencing by then, were going to escalate to the point to exterminate third density human race. The well known story on how Dr. Roldán insisted on getting help to get off the planet and into another one happened by this time. It's unnecessary to state that he succeeded on getting their help.

About ten to twenty years into the exodus, the Doctor got curious about the names the Cassiopeians used. Asked about them, they replied those were the names of their souls, coined from Godspeech. Being further asked about this, they said the Godspeech they used was an adaptation of a far more complex, and incomprehensible for them, etheric language spoken by the Gods. The Cassiopeians were resistant to the idea of teaching their language to him at first, but they relented after a long time of insistence. However, they explained to him that they could not teach the language as they spoke it since it would be incomprehensible for him, so an even more simplified version would be necessary to teach him. He agreed and in the following years, they taught details of the language to him.

Now, in the verge of the first 100 Ziel's years of us being the planet's inhabitants, Godspeech (or Obulamga as it is called in the language) as Dr. Roldán documented it, is being studied again. This is a language that was originally documented more than 4.5 thousands of Terran years ago!

Phonological inventory
Consonants
b
d [d]
g [g]
j [ʒ]
l [l]
m [m]
n [n]
r [ɾ]
th [ð]
v [v]
y [ʎ]
z [z]

Vowels
a [a]
e [ɛ]
i
o [ɔ]
u
ā [aː]
ē [ɛː]
ī [iː]
ō [ɔː]
ū [uː]

No allophones. All voiced consonants.

Vinulamthabilrobado zrimthabilrobazeandom lam.
Vinulamthabil-ro-ba-do zrimthabil-ro-ba-ze-andom lam.
[ˈvinulamðabilɾɔˌbadɔ ˈzɾimðabilɾɔbazɛˌandɔm lam]
Cassiopeian-PL-DEF-TOPIC being-PL-DEF-REL-wise say.
The Cassiopeians, the wise beings, say.

vinulamthabil [ˈvinulamˌðabil] n. Cassiopeian (beings)
-ro [-ɾɔ] n sufix plural
-ba [-ba] n sufix definite
-do [-dɔ] n/v sufix TOPIC marker
zrimthabil [ˈzɾimðabil] n. being
-ze [-zɛ] n sufix incidental relative phrase
andom ['andɔm] adj. wise
lam [lam] v. say, express

Introducing relative phrases with the sufix "-ze". It attaches incidental information to the previous noun.

Bēm zraorim anbotham, thabil lamgaorilom.
bēm zra-or-im an-bo-tham, thabil lamga-or-ilom
[bɛːm ˈzɾaɔɾim ˈanbɔðam, ˈðabil ˈlamgaɔˌrilɔm]
information order-PASSIVE-CAUSE truth-INDEF-done-by, consciousness create-PASSIVE-EFFECT
When information is organized by a truth, consciousness is created.

bēm [bɛːm] n. knowledge, information
zra [zɾa] v. order
-or [-ɔɾ] v sufix passive voice
-im [-im] v sufix cause
an [an] n. truth, universal structure
-bo [-bɔ] n sufix indefinite
-tham [-ðam] n. sufix done by
thabil [ˈðabil] n. consciousness
lamga [ˈlamga] v. speak, spawn, create
-ilom -ilɔm v sufix effect

Here is a sentence with no marked topic. Here, "bēm" occupies the subject.
Clause's canonical order is still SVO.
Still no need to mark subject and object when they follow that order.
Former double vowels are now long vowels marked by a macron.
The [s] was the only unvoiced sound present, it was deleted and replaced with [ð].
Introduction of the passive voice with the "-or" verbal sufix. Passive word order is SV with the active voice's object as the subject. No need to mark the subject if it follows this order. Active voice's subject is attached the "-tham" (done by) sufix for passive voice.

Thabil thebam aleldra.
[ˈðabil ˈðɛbam ˈalɛldɾa]
Consciousness transforms-into energy.

thabil [ˈðabil] n. consciousness
thebam [ˈðɛbam] v. transform into
aleldra [ˈalɛldɾa] n. energy

Aleldra thebam rigeba.
[ˈalɛldɾa ˈðɛbam ˈɾigɛba]
Energy transforms-into matter.

rigeba [ˈɾigɛba] n. matter

Bēm droumgianzlamadior emgothil zomzu.
bēm droumgianzlamadi-or emgo-thil zom-zu
[bɛːnˈdɾɔumgianzlaˌmadiɔɾ ˈɛmgɔðil ˈzɔmzu]
information encode-PASSIVE wave-TRANS ether-REL
Information is encoded as waves in the ether.

bēm [bɛːm] n. knowledge, information
droumgianzlamadi [ˈdɾɔumgianzlaˌmadi] v. encode
-or [-ɔɾ] v. sufix passive voice
emgo [ˈɛmgɔ] n. wave
-thil [-ðɛl] n. sufix Into (transformative)
zom [zɔm] n. ether
-zu [-zu] n. sufix restrictive relative phrase

"-thil" sufix indicates what the subject transforms into.
"-zu" marks the noun as identifying information for the referent of the preceding noun.

Lamemgoba obulrozu lamga.
lamemgo-ba obul-ro-zu lamga
[ˈlamɛmˌgɔba ˈɔbulˌɾɔzu ˈlamga]
voice-DEF god-PL-REL create
The voice of the Gods creates.

lamemgo [ˈlamɛmgɔ] n. voice
-ba [-ba] n. sufix definite
obul [ˈɔbul] n. god, three
-ro [-ɾɔ] n. sufix plural
-zu [-zu] n. sufix restrictive relative phrase
lamga [ˈlamga] v. speak, spawn, create

From here, these sentences were previously posted. Some changes were made.

Anilinolamgoldo amaleba alal.
ani-lin-olamgol-do amaleba al-al
[ˈanilinɔlamˌgɔldɔ ˈamaˌlɛba ˈalal]
Nothing-LOC-created-TOPIC is-permanent the-one-SUBJ.
About wherever nothing has-been-created, exists the one.
Before anything, there was the One.

"alal" was originally written "abal". The word "ab" meaning "The One, number one", was freely derived from "aba", meaning "The Void". After posting it, I realized "ab" is violating the language's morphological rules, so I changed it to "al".

Onido maleba allin.
oni-do maleba al-lin
[ˈɔnidɔ ˈmalɛba ˈallin]
Everything-TOPIC dwell the-one-LOC.
Everything was in the One.

Aldo abaol.
al-do aba-ol
[ˈaldɔ ˈabaɔl]
The-one-TOPIC is-the-void.
The One is the void.

Aldo thebam am.
al-do thebam am
[ˈaldɔ ˈðɛbam am]
The-one-TOPIC transforms-into the-dual.
The One transforms into the Dual.

Aldo lamga ama.
al-do lamga ama
[ˈaldɔ ˈlamga ˈama]
The-One-TOPIC spawns the-womb.
The One spawns the womb.

Onido ama lamga.
oni-do ama lamga
[ˈɔnidɔ ˈama ˈlamga]
Everything-TOPIC The-Womb spawns.
Everything comes from the womb.

Altha amathado amol.
al-tha ama-tha-do am-ol
[alða ˈamaˌðadɔ ˈamɔl]
The-one-CONJ the-womb-CONJ-TOPIC is-the-dual.
The One and the womb together is the Dual.

The original "collective-and" conjunction "sa" is now the sufix "-tha". The original phrase "ab sa ama" (The-One and The-Womb) is now written "altha amatha" (The-One-and The-Womb-and). The sufix is attached to all the joined nouns.

Amado lamga oniolamgol.
ama-do lamga oni-olamgol
[ˈamadɔ ˈlamga ˈɔniɔˌlamgɔl]
The-womb-TOPIC spawns everything-created.
The womb spawns everything that exists.

Amado lamga olbo.
ama-do lamga olbo
[ˈamadɔ ˈlamga ˈɔlbɔ]
The-womb-TOPIC spawns the-overseer.
The womb spawns the Overseer.

Onithaolamgol amathado obulol.
oni-tha-olamgol ama-tha-do obul-ol
[ˈɔniðaɔˌlamgɔl ˈamaˌðadɔ ˈɔbulɔl]
Everything-CONJ-created the-Dual-CONJ-TOPIC is-the-triad.
Everything that exists and the Dual is the triad.

Onidōlamgol olbōl.
oni-do-olamgol olbo-ol
[ˈɔnidɔːˌlamgɔl ˈɔlbɔːl]
Everything-TOPIC-created is-the-overseer.
Everything that exists is the Overseer.

"oni-do-olamgol olbo-ol" becomes "Onidōlamgol olbōl". Any potential double vowel becomes a long vowel.

Olbodo thabiranol.
olbo-do thabiran-ol
[ˈɔlbɔdɔ ˈðabiˌɾanɔl]
The -overseer is-collective-conciousness.
The Overseer is collective conciousness.

Aldo bol.
al-do bol
[ˈabdɔ bɔl]
The-One-TOPIC is-divine.
The One is god.

Amado bol.
ama-do bol
[ˈamadɔ bɔl]
The-Womb-TOPIC is-divine.
The Womb is god.

Olbodo bol.
olbo-do bol
[ˈɔlbɔdɔ bɔl]
The-Overseer-TOPIC is-divine.
The Overseer is god.

Obum mabe obuldo.
obu-m mabe obul-do
[ˈɔbum ˈmabɛ ˈɔbuldɔ]
Obu-OBJ is-named the-triad-TOPIC.
Obu is the name of god.

Obudo alol.
obu-do al-ol
[ˈɔbudɔ ˈabɔl]
Obu-TOPIC is-one.
Obu is one.

Obudogēr umbagli oni.
obu-do-gēr um-bagli oni
[ˈɔbuˌdɔgɛːɾ ˈumbagli ˈɔni]
Obu-TOPIC-only can-perceive everything.
Only Obu can see everything.

Obudogēr umthamam oni.
obu-do-gēr um-thamam oni
[ˈɔbuˌdɔgɛːɾ ˈumðamam ˈɔni]
Obu-TOPIC-only can-do everything
Only Obu can do everything.

Obudogēr oniol.
obu-do-gēr oni-ol
[ˈɔbuˌdɔgɛːɾ ˈɔniɔl]
Obu-TOPIC-only is-everything
Only Obu is everything.

Obudo lamim "ililolān", ililom lamgailom.
obu-do lam-im "ilil-ol-ān", ilil-om lamga-ilom
[ˈɔbudɔ ˈlamim ˈililɔlaːn, ˈililɔm ˈlamˌgailɔm]
Obu-TOPIC says-CAUSE "is-light-IMP", light-OBJ spawns-EFFECT.
Obu said; "there be the light", and the light was spawned.

The imperative particle "aan" is now the verbal sufix "-ān".

Onido thamamim, mobólilom, noljōān, Amobu.
oni-do thamam-im, moból-ilom, noljo-o-ān, am-Obu
[ˈɔnidɔ ˈðamamim, mɔˈbɔlilɔm, ˈnɔldʒɔːaːn, ˈamɔbu]
"Anything-TOPIC done-CAUSE, results-EFFECT, is-law-that-IMP", said-by-Obu.
Obu said "whatever done has a consequence, be it a law".
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Betsemes wrote:Anilinolamgoldo amaleba alal.
ani-lin-olamgol-do amaleba al-al
Nothing-LOC-created-TOPIC is-permanent the-one-SUBJ.
About wherever nothing has-been-created, exists the one.
Before anything, there was the One.

"alal" was originally written "abal". The word "ab" meaning "The One, number one", was freely derived from "aba", meaning "The Void". After posting it, I realized "ab" is violating the language's morphological rules, so I changed it to "al".
I need to make a correction here. The "-al" sufix was changed to "-bal" due to some possible chances of confusions. This makes the sentence read:

Anilinolamgoldo amaleba albal.
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As I think on my language, I realized that the singular/dual/paucal/plural numbers are made for human languages. The concept of the Gods is that they have different levels of individuality, so then the distinction between singular and plural gets blurred. I thought of an additional number for a collective consciousness where there are many gods, but there is no complete individuality, so they are one but not completely. How such number might be called?
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Betsemes wrote:As I think on my language, I realized that the singular/dual/paucal/plural numbers are made for human languages. The concept of the Gods is that they have different levels of individuality, so then the distinction between singular and plural gets blurred. I thought of an additional number for a collective consciousness where there are many gods, but there is no complete individuality, so they are one but not completely. How such number might be called?
Mass.

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You are confusing the Collective with a mass noun, which are not identical.
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Sir Gwalchafad wrote:You are confusing the Collective with a mass noun, which are not identical.
Collective. That's it! Thanks sir.
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Is there a linguistic term for a masculine and feminine gender word?
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Betsemes wrote:Is there a linguistic term for a masculine and feminine gender word?
Epicene.
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WeepingElf wrote:
Betsemes wrote:Is there a linguistic term for a masculine and feminine gender word?
Epicene.
Thanks. What I get about this word in a google search is that it refers to a word that may be used either for masculine or feminine genders. I'm looking for a term that describes a word for a hermaphrodite, something that's both masculine and feminine. The closest I got to this was a wikipedia article that said it may refer to androgyny; but this definition is not a linguistic one according to it. I'm willing to use it in my Godspeech grammar for one of the grammatical genders; masculine, feminine, epicene, and neuter; but I hope to find a better alternative.
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If you want a hermaphroditic gender, then just call it that.
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Valkura wrote:If you want a hermaphroditic gender, then just call it that.
Okay. So they are masculine, feminine, hermaphrodite, and neuter.
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Or you can say: Masculine, Feminine, Neuter, Both.
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Yaali Annar wrote:Or you can say: Masculine, Feminine, Neuter, Both.
That has been my approach until now. I may keep it as per your suggestion.
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