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My version of Marsuna:

/p t k tɕ tʃ/ p t k th q
/pː tː kː/ b d g
/m n ɲ ŋ/ m n nh mh
/ɸ ð ðʲ s ɕ ʃ x/ f d dh s sh x fh
/l ʎ r/ l z r
/w j/ w h

/æ ɒ e o i y ɯ u/ a ah e o i u ih uh

vowel harmony: i~ɯ (I) y~u (U) æ~ɒ (A), neutral: e and o

Sample: /ðæ pikatixyn kymteɸumðʲokːu mɯxɒʃutːes ʃɯkːɯ t͡ʃæɕt͡ɕiðʲ jænt͡ɕit͡ʃyʃ ritæl/
Sample: /da pik(?)tifhun kumtefuhmdhoguh mihfhahxuhges xihgih qashthidh hanthiqux rital/
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A new one to try for you all:

/pʰ p t̪ʲʰ t̪ʲ kʲʰ kʲ kʰ k/
/f v s̪ ʃ ç ʝ x ɣ h/
/m n̪ˠ n ɲ/
/l̪ˠ l ʎ j/
/ɾ ɾʲ rˠ/

/i iː ɪ e eː ɛ ɛː ə a aː ɯ ɯː u uː ɤ ɤː o oː ɔ ɔː/
/ei əi ai ui iə uə εu ɔu au ia/

E.g.
/haː kax uʎɛ ɣuɲɛ ɛɾʲə vɾʲɛh sɯːɾ akus kʰɔ.inan̪ˠ an ən urˠəm s̪an an kʰɔːɾɪçən/

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/pʰ p t̪ʲʰ t̪ʲ kʲʰ kʲ kʰ k/ <p b tь dь cь gь cъ gъ>
/f v s̪ ʃ ç ʝ x ɣ h/ <f bh s sь chь ghь chъ ghъ tъ/dъ>
/m n̪ˠ n ɲ/ <m nъ nn nь>
/l̪ˠ l ʎ j/ <lъ ll lь i>
/ɾ ɾʲ rˠ/ <rr rь rъ>
/./ <fh>

/i iː ɪ e eː ɛ ɛː ə a aː ɯ ɯː u uː ɤ ɤː o oː ɔ ɔː | ei əi ai ui iə uə εu ɔu au ia/ (V<Ch>C# = VC<Ch>)
0-0 <i í imh e é emh émh e a á uth úth u ú oth óth omh ómh | éth eth ath áth idh udh edh odh adh íth>
0-ь <i í imh e é emh émh e ai ái uith úith ui úi oth óth oimh óimh | éth eth aith áith idh uidh edh oedh aidh íth>
0-ъ <iu íu iumh eo éo eomh éomh a a á uth úth u ú oth óth omh ómh | éoth eoth ath áth iodh udh eodh odh adh íuth>
ь-0 <i í imh e é emh émh e ia iá euth eúth eu eú ioth ióth iomh iómh | éth eth iath iáth idh iudh edh iodh iadh íth>
ь-ь <i í imh e é emh émh e eai eái iuith iúith iui iúi eoith eóith eoimh eóimh | éth eth eaith eáith idh iuidh edh eoidh eaidh íth>
ь-ъ <iu íu iumh eo éo eomh éomh ea ia iá euth eúth eu eú ioth ióth iomh iómh | éoth eoth iath iáth iodh iudh eadh eodh iadh íuth>
ъ-0 <oi oí oimh ae aé aemh aémh a a á uth úth u ú oth óth omh ómh | aéth aeth ath áth oidh udh aedh odh adh oíth>
ъ-ь <oi oí oimh ae aé aemh aémh ae ai ái uith úith ui úi oith óith oimh óimh | aéth aeth aith áith oidh uidh aedh oedh adh oíth>
ъ-ъ <uio uío uiomh aeo aéo aeomh aéomh a a á uth úth u ú oth óth omh ómh | aéoth aeoth ath áth uiodh udh aeodh odh adh uíoth>

0 takes on color of adjacent vowels if they exist

E.g.
/haː kax uʎɛ ɣuɲɛ ɛɾʲə vɾʲɛh sɯːɾ akus kʰɔ.inan̪ˠ an ən urˠəm s̪an an kʰɔːɾɪçən/
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the ui in duine is normally ɤ

in most places, really

also YOUR ORTHOGRAPHY IS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT @.@
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Inversion wrote:the ui in duine is normally ɤ

in most places, really

also YOUR ORTHOGRAPHY IS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT @.@
gaelic makes no sense and i do not understand it, so i have instead adopted the strategy of not giving a shit. ps: it can always get worse! observe

/pʰ p t̪ʲʰ t̪ʲ kʲʰ kʲ kʰ k/ <ꓒ ꓑ ꓕ ꓔ ꓛ ꓚ ꓘ ꓗ>
/f v s̪ ʃ ç ʝ x ɣ h/ <ꓩ ꓪ ꓢ ꓙ ꓫ ꓣ ꓧ ꓭ ꓨ>
/m n̪ˠ n ɲ/ <ꓟ ꓦ ꓠ ꓥ>
/l̪ˠ l ʎ j/ <ꓤ ꓡ ꓜ ꓬ>
/ɾ ɾʲ rˠ/ <ꓓ ꓝ ꓞ>
/i ɪ e ɛ ə a ɯ u ɤ o ɔ/ <ꓲ ꓵ ꓰ ꓯ 0 ꓮ ꓶ ꓴ ꓱ ꓳ ꓷ> /:/ <ˍ>
/ei əi ai ui iə uə εu ɔu au ia/ <ꓰꓬ ꓬ ꓮꓬ ꓴꓬ ꓲꓸ ꓴꓸ ꓯꓴ ꓷꓴ ꓮꓴ ꓵꓸ>

/haː kax uʎɛ ɣuɲɛ ɛɾʲə vɾʲɛh sɯːɾ akus kʰɔ.inan̪ˠ an ən urˠəm s̪an an kʰɔːɾɪçən/
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I hate you.
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/pʰ p t̪ʲʰ t̪ʲ kʲʰ kʲ kʰ k/ <パ バ タ ダ キャ ギャ カ ガ>
/f v s̪ ʃ ç ʝ x ɣ h/ <ファ ヴ サ シャ ヒャ ザ ッハ ワ ハ>
/m n̪ˠ n ɲ/ <マ ノァ ナ ニャ>
/l̪ˠ l ʎ j/ <ッルァ ッラ ッリャ>
/ɾ ɾʲ rˠ/ <ラ リャ ルァ>

/i iː ɪ e eː ɛ ɛː ə a aː ɯ ɯː u uː ɤ ɤː o oː ɔ ɔː/ <イ イー イィ エ エー エェ エェー アァ ア アー ウ ウー ウォ ウォー オゥ オゥー オ オー オォー オォー>
/ei əi ai ui iə uə εu ɔu au ia/ <エイ アァイ ウイ イァ ウァ エウ オウ アウ イア>

E.g.
/haː kax uʎɛ ɣuɲɛ ɛɾʲə vɾʲɛh sɯːɾ akus kʰɔ.inan̪ˠ an ən urˠəm s̪an an kʰɔːɾɪçən/
ハー ガㇸ ウッリェ ヲゥニェ エリャァ ヴリェㇸ スーr アグス コォイナン-ァ アン ァン ウルァム サン アン コーッリヒャン
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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/pʰ p t̪ʲʰ t̪ʲ kʲʰ kʲ kʰ k/ <ܦ ܒ ܬ ܕ ܟܝ ܓܝ ܟ ܓ>
/f v s̪ ʃ ç ʝ x ɣ h/ <ܦ ܒ ܣ ܨ ܫ ܙ ܚ ܥ ܗ>
/m n̪ˠ n ɲ/ <ܡ ܢܥ ܢ ܢܝ>
/l̪ˠ l ʎ j/ <ܠܥ ܠ ܠܝ ܝ>
/ɾ ɾʲ rˠ/ <ܪ ܪܝ ܪܥ>

/i iː ɪ e eː ɛ ɛː ə a aː ɯ ɯː u uː ɤ ɤː o oː ɔ ɔː/ N/A
/ei əi ai ui iə uə εu ɔu au ia/ N/A

E.g.
/haː kax uʎɛ ɣuɲɛ ɛɾʲə vɾʲɛh sɯːɾ akus kʰɔ.inan̪ˠ an ən urˠəm s̪an an kʰɔːɾɪçən/
ܗ ܓܚ ܐܠܝ ܥܢܝ ܐܪܝ ܒܪܝܗ ܣܪ ܐܓܣ ܟܢܢܥ ܐܢ ܐܢ ܐܪܡ ܣܢ ܐܢ ܟܪܫܢ
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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No digraphs or diacritics!

/pʰ p t̪ʲʰ t̪ʲ kʲʰ kʲ kʰ k/ <p b t d c j k g>
/f v s̪ ʃ ç ʝ x ɣ h/ <f v s z x y q w h>
/m n̪ˠ n ɲ/ <m ] n [>
/l̪ˠ l ʎ j/ <) l ( />
/ɾ ɾʲ rˠ/ <r { }>

/i iː ɪ e eː ɛ ɛː ə a aː ɯ ɯː u uː ɤ ɤː o oː ɔ ɔː/
<i ! 1 e 3 2 8 0 a @ ' " u 5 4 7 o 9 > <>
/ei əi ai ui iə uə εu ɔu au ia/ <6 # $ % ^ & * = + ->

E.g.
/haː kax uʎɛ ɣuɲɛ ɛɾʲə vɾʲɛh sɯːɾ akus kʰɔ.inan̪ˠ an ən urˠəm s̪an an kʰɔːɾɪçən/
H@ gaq u(e wu[2 2{0 v{2h s"r agus k>ina] an 0n u}0m san an k<r1x0n.
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Too many digraphs and diacritics, in patented H13 Phonetic Notation®
The guy who wrote down the example sentence has no idea but fine

/pʰ p t̪ʲʰ t̪ʲ kʲʰ kʲ kʰ k/ ph p ṯ̌h ṯ̌ ḱh ḱ k
/f v s̪ ʃ ç ʝ x ɣ h/ f v s̱ š x́ ɣ́ x ɣ h
/m n̪ˠ n ɲ/ m ṉʿ n ń
/l̪ˠ l ʎ j/ ḻʿ l ľ j
/ɾ ɾʲ rˠ/ r ř rrʿ

/i iː ɪ e eː ɛ ɛː ə a aː ɯ ɯː u uː ɤ ɤː o oː ɔ ɔː/
i ii ı e ee ẹ ẹẹ ə a aa ư ưư u uu ơ ơơ o oo ọ ọọ

/ei əi ai ui iə uə εu ɔu au ia/
ei əi ai ui iə uə ẹu ọu au ia

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/haː kax uʎɛ ɣuɲɛ ɛɾʲə vɾʲɛh sɯːɾ akus kʰɔ.inan̪ˠ an ən urˠəm s̪an an kʰɔːɾɪçən/
haa kax uľẹ ɣuńẹ ẹřə vřẹh sưưr akus khọinaṉʿ an ən urrʿəm s̱an an khọọrıx́ən
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Ew.

/pʰ p t̪ʲʰ t̪ʲ kʲʰ kʲ kʰ k/ p b t d tg dg c g
/f v s̪ ʃ ç ʝ x ɣ h/ f v s sg cy gy ch gh h
/m n̪ˠ n ɲ/ m n ng ny
/l̪ˠ l ʎ j/ l lg ly y
/ɾ ɾʲ rˠ/ r rg rh

/i iː ɪ e eː ɛ ɛː ə a aː ɯ ɯː u uː ɤ ɤː o oː ɔ ɔː/ ı í ıe e é ea eá ıa a á ıu ıú u ú ıo ıó o ó oa oá
/ei əi ai ui iə uə εu ɔu au ia/ eı oı aı uı ıe uo eu ou au ıae

Há gach ulyea ghunyea eargıa vrgeah sıúr agus koaïngan an ıan urhıam san an koárıecyıan.
/haː kax uʎɛ ɣuɲɛ ɛɾʲə vɾʲɛh sɯːɾ akus kʰɔ.inan̪ˠ an ən urˠəm s̪an an kʰɔːɾɪçən/

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why the fuck do you keep using dotless i?

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Because I like it. I really have no idea why it's such a problem. :wink:

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In his defence, the tittle was retarded in the first place.
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Greyhawthorn wrote:/pʰ p t̪ʲʰ t̪ʲ kʲʰ kʲ kʰ k/
Not sure about the point in highlighting the palatalized/dental of the coronal series, does it affect the vowels? From what I see, as opposed to the velars, It doesn't contrast and therefore mind as well be /tʰ t/.

<p b t d c j k g> . . . no need for <ph p tyh ty kyh ky kh k>
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2+3 clusivity wrote:
Greyhawthorn wrote:/pʰ p t̪ʲʰ t̪ʲ kʲʰ kʲ kʰ k/
Not sure about the point in highlighting the palatalized/dental of the coronal series, does it affect the vowels? From what I see, as opposed to the velars, It doesn't contrast and therefore mind as well be /tʰ t/.

<p b t d c j k g> . . . no need for <ph p tyh ty kyh ky kh k>
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Oh man, I love it when Nort gets excited. Two of those came up with just boxes but maybe that's a feature of the orthography o.O

A new one to try for you all:

/pʰ p t̪ʲʰ t̪ʲ kʲʰ kʲ kʰ k/ <pp p tt t cc c kk k>
/f v s̪ ʃ ç ʝ x ɣ h/ <ph b s th ch j kh g h>
/m n̪ˠ n ɲ/ <m nn n nj>
/l̪ˠ l ʎ j/ <ll l lj y>
/ɾ ɾʲ rˠ/ <r rj rr>

/i iː ɪ e eː ɛ ɛː ə a aː ɯ ɯː u uː ɤ ɤː o oː ɔ ɔː/ <i ii î e ee ä ää ê a aa ï ïï u uu ë ëë o oo å åå
/ei əi ai ui iə uə εu ɔu au ia/ <ei êi ai ui iê uê ou au ia>

E.g.
/haː kax uʎɛ ɣuɲɛ ɛɾʲə vɾʲɛh sɯːɾ akus kʰɔ.inan̪ˠ an ən urˠəm s̪an an kʰɔːɾɪçən/
Haa kakh uljä gunjä ärjê brjäh sïïr akus khåinann an ên urrêm san an khåårîchên.
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Proto-Northern:

/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ny ng>
/p t c k/ <p t ty k>
/s ç ħ h/ <s sy hh h>
/r j/ <r j>

/i e a o u/ <i e a o u>
/ie ia iu ue ua ui ea oa/ <ie ia iu ue ua ui ea oa>
/ai au/ <ai au>
/á/ <aı>

Kjiaıtyo teaskjur siuına arjoısi nyiısuraim hhaıtpo tseaıhin ryuampok syuareıng.
/kjiáco teaskjur siúna arjósi ɲísuraim ħátpo tseáhin rjuampok çuaréŋ/



/m n n̠ n̠ʲ/ <m n nq nj>
/p b t d t̠ d̠ t̠ʲ d̠ʲ k g ʔ/ <p b t d tq dq tj dj k g '>
/f s z s̠ z̠ s̠ʲ z̠ʲ x ħ h/ <f s z sq zq sj zj x h>
/ʋ r r̠ l l̠ j/ <w r rq l lq>

/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː/ <i ie e ee a ae o oi u oe>
/ɪ ɐ ʊ ə/ <iq aq uq y>

Hizwaet paqsaeb soeby'duq squllaeluq sjoetyfaq tidyluk tqeehiq wijoil jejy zqaetuqzjy 'adiergiqky 'atmoin.
/hizʋaːt pɐsaːb suːbəʔdʊ s̠ullaːlʊ s̠ʲuːtəfɐ tidəluk t̠eːhɪ ʋijoːl jejə z̠aːtʊz̠ʲə ʔadiːrgɪkə ʔatmoːn/



/p t c k pʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ/ <p t c k ph th ch kh>
/m n ɲ l/ <m n gn l>
/v s z dʒ h/ <v s z j h>
/a e i o u ə eː aː oː au əi əu/ <a e i o u y ê â ô au yi yu>
Stress is indicated with an acute.

Chêgn énzôhy kímâ ysjí mgnysypí cythâvjémyunu.
/cʰeːɲ ˈenzoːhə ˈkimaː əsˈdʒi mɲəsəˈpi cətʰaːvˈdʒeməunu/



Previously Börtis:

/p t tʃ k kʷ pʰ tʰ tʃʰ kʰ kʰʷ b d dʒ g gʷ/ <bp dt dtsj gk gko p t tsj k ko b d dzj g go>
/f θ s ɬ ʃ ç h v ð/ <f z s ll sj hj ch v zz>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n nj ng>
/r l j ɥ ɰ w/ <r l j ü y w>

/i i: y ɯ u u:/ <ie íe ü i u uu>
/ɛ e: œ ʌ ɔ o:/ <ä ee ö e o oo>
/æ ɶ ɑ ɒ/ <aa öä a oa>

/æe ɒo ɛe ɔo ɛɔ iu ui/ <ae ao ée óo eo iu ui>

Ieníe sudtaadtäng woll zzíe yärdt änt zzíe yärt woll üiezz god ändt zzíe yärdt woll god.
/ini: sutætɛŋ wɔɬ ði: ɰɛrt ɛnt ði: ɰɛrt wɔɬ ɥið gɔd ɛnt ði: ɰɛrt wɔɬ gɔd/



Marsuna:

/p t k tɕ tʃ/ <p t k kj tj>
/pː tː kː/ <pp tt kk>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n nj ņ>
/ɸ ð ðʲ s ɕ ʃ x/ <f d dj s hj sj h>
/l ʎ r/ <l lj r>
/w j/ <w j>

/æ ɒ e o i y ɯ u/ <a à e o i y ì u>

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/ðæ pikatixyn kymteɸumðʲokːu mɯxɒʃutːes ʃɯkːɯ t͡ʃæɕt͡ɕiðʲ jænt͡ɕit͡ʃyʃ ritæl/
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What, no Voang? No one's going to try to write it in Khmer wait that's not even a bad idea
kanejam wrote:Oh man, I love it when Nort gets excited. Two of those came up with just boxes but maybe that's a feature of the orthography o.O
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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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/byrtʰɛs/ (more or less finalised now. Umlaut has been adjusted, hence the slight vowel change)

/p t t͡ʃ t͡ʃʷ k kʷ/
/pʰ tʰ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃʰʷ kʰ kʰʷ/
/b d d͡ʒ d͡ʒʷ g gʷ/
/f θ s ɬ ʃ ʃʷ ç çʷ h v ð/
/m n ɲ ɲʷ ŋ ŋʷ/
/r l j ɥ ɰ w/

/i i: y ɯ u u:/
/ɛ e: œ ʌ ɔ o:/
/a ɶ ɑ ɒ/

/ae ɒo ɛe ɔo ɛɔ iu ui/

Notes:
Vr sequences can be analysed as diphthongs, due to their presence in the ablaut paradigm (cf. a common alteration of e~a~ar)
Final non-low vowels are always long (ie. /i: e: u: o:/), but low vowels only unround if they are rounded.
The pairs j~ɥ and ɰ~w are only contrastive before a diphthong or before a word-final vowel
Pre-vocalic unvoiced stops are always aspirated. The two sets of unvoiced stops contrast only in coda position, but not word-finally
Only /p t k b d g f θ s ɬ v ð m n ŋ r/ can end words (out of the consonants)
I think that's it.

Sample text:
/ɰɛrnɑs ugɛn | ði: ʃitʃʷœrm ini: gʷulɛftɛm kɛrmɑɬ bi:d͡ʒiniŋ tʰi: fulu: || wɔɬ diɬrae fo: su: lɔŋ/

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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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/p t t͡ʃ t͡ʃʷ k kʷ/ <p t tr c k kw>
/pʰ tʰ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃʰʷ kʰ kʰʷ/ <ph tt trh ch kh khw>
/b d d͡ʒ d͡ʒʷ g gʷ/ <b d dr j g gw>
/f θ s ɬ ʃ ʃʷ ç çʷ h v ð/ <f th s lh shr sh ch chw h v dh>
/m n ɲ ɲʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n ñ ñw ng ngw>
/r l j ɥ ɰ w/ <r l y yw wy w>

/i i: y ɯ u u:/ <i ee ue ou u oo>
/ɛ e: œ ʌ ɔ o:/ <e ai eo ua au oe>
/a ɶ ɑ ɒ/ <aa ae a o>

/ae ɒo ɛe ɔo ɛɔ iu ui/ <ie ao ei oa ea iu ui>

Notes:
Vr sequences can be analysed as diphthongs, due to their presence in the ablaut paradigm (cf. a common alteration of e~a~ar)
Final non-low vowels are always long (ie. /i: e: u: o:/), but low vowels only unround if they are rounded.
The pairs j~ɥ and ɰ~w are only contrastive before a diphthong or before a word-final vowel
Pre-vocalic unvoiced stops are always aspirated. The two sets of unvoiced stops contrast only in coda position, but not word-finally
Only /p t k b d g f θ s ɬ v ð m n ŋ r/ can end words (out of the consonants)
I think that's it.

Sample text:
/ɰɛrnɑs ugɛn | ði: ʃitʃʷœrm ini: gʷulɛftɛm kɛrmɑɬ bi:d͡ʒiniŋ tʰi: fulu: || wɔɬ diɬrae fo: su: lɔŋ/[/quote]
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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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/byrtʰɛs/ bivrthes (more or less finalised now. Umlaut has been adjusted, hence the slight vowel change)

/p t t͡ʃ t͡ʃʷ k kʷ/ p t c cv k kv
/pʰ tʰ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃʰʷ kʰ kʰʷ/ ph th ch cf kh kf
/b d d͡ʒ d͡ʒʷ g gʷ/ b d j jv g gv
/f θ s ɬ ʃ ʃʷ ç çʷ h v ð/ f z s sl sc sf hk hf v dd
/m n ɲ ɲʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ m n nn nv ng ngv
/r l j ɥ ɰ w/ r l y yv/y wy/w w

/i i: y ɯ u u:/ i ii iv uy u uu
/ɛ e: œ ʌ ɔ o:/ e ei ev oy o ou
/a ɶ ɑ ɒ/ ay av a aa

/ae ɒo ɛe ɔo ɛɔ iu ui/ ae ao ee oo eo iu ui

Notes:
Vr sequences can be analysed as diphthongs, due to their presence in the ablaut paradigm (cf. a common alteration of e~a~ar)
Final non-low vowels are always long (ie. /i: e: u: o:/), but low vowels only unround if they are rounded.
The pairs j~ɥ and ɰ~w are only contrastive before a diphthong or before a word-final vowel
Pre-vocalic unvoiced stops are always aspirated. The two sets of unvoiced stops contrast only in coda position, but not word-finally
Only /p t k b d g f θ s ɬ v ð m n ŋ r/ can end words (out of the consonants)
I think that's it.

Sample text:
/ɰɛrnɑs ugɛn | ði: ʃitʃʷœrm ini: gʷulɛftɛm kɛrmɑɬ bi:d͡ʒiniŋ tʰi: fulu: || wɔɬ diɬrae fo: su: lɔŋ/
wyernas ugen ddii scicvevrm inii gvuleftem kermasl biijining thii fuluu wosl dislrae foo suu long
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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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Buerthes

/p t t͡ʃ t͡ʃʷ k kʷ/ <p t cì cy c cù>
/pʰ tʰ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃʰʷ kʰ kʰʷ/ <ph th chì chy ch chù>
/b d d͡ʒ d͡ʒʷ g gʷ/ <b d gì gy g gù>
/f θ s ɬ ʃ ʃʷ ç çʷ h v ð/ <f tì s z sì sù hì hù h v dì>
/m n ɲ ɲʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n nì nù ng ngù>
/r l j ɥ ɰ w/ <r l y yù wi w>

The <i> or <u> carrying the grave accent was unpronounced. If the writer was intended the following letter to be pronounced, then the acute accent was used instead, e.g. <gui> /gui/ vs. <gùi> /gʷi/ vs. <gúi> /gʷui/. That is to say that a vowel letter does not modify the preceding consonant unless explicitly marked.

/i i: y ɯ u u:/ <i ei ue eu u ou>
/ɛ e: œ ʌ ɔ o:/ <e ie oe eo o uo>
/a ɶ ɑ ɒ/ <ea ua a oa>

/ae ɒo ɛe ɔo ɛɔ iu ui/ <ae ao ee oo eo iu ui>

Sample text:
/ɰɛrnɑs ugɛn | ði: ʃitʃʷœrm ini: gʷulɛftɛm kɛrmɑɬ bi:d͡ʒiniŋ tʰi: fulu: || wɔɬ diɬrae fo: su: lɔŋ/
Weirnas ugen, dìei sícyoerm inei gúleftem cermaz beigíning thei fulou. Woz dizrae fuo sou long.
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.

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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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I'm running a bit up against a wall with the romanisation of a new thing I've started (can you tell it takes inspiration from the Salish languages?) and I thought I'd give you all a shot. Basically, because of the sometimes horrifying clusters, I'm trying to avoid di- or trigraphs when possible. Anyway...have fun, I guess? Aspirates are going to just be digraphs, because otherwise it would be more unmanagable than it already is. Same with prenasalised consonants.

/p t c k q ʔ/
/pʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/
/pʷ tʷ cʷ kʷ qʷ/
/p' t' c' k' q'/
/pʰ' tʰ' cʰ' kʰ' qʰ'/
/b d ɟ g/
/bˤ dˤ ɟˤ gˤ/
/m n ɲ ŋ ɴ/
/mˤ nˤ ɲˤ/
/m̥ n̥ ŋ̊/
/l lʲ lˤ ɬ/
/j jˤ/
/ʀ/
/w ʍ/
/f s θ ç x χ/
/sʷ θʷ xʷ χʷ/
/f' s' θ' x'/
/sʷ' θʷ' xʷ'/
/v z ð ʐ ʝ ɣ/
/vˤ zˤ ðˤ ʐˤ ʝˤ ɣˤ/

/i a u/
/iː aː uː/
/ĩ ã ũ/

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There is no such thing as an aspirated ejective. Also, give an example in IPA.

/p t c k q ʔ/ <p t c k q ʔ>
/pʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <ph th ch kh qh>
/pʷ tʷ cʷ kʷ qʷ/ <pʷ tʷ cʷ kʷ qʷ>
/p' t' c' k' q'/ <p̓ t̓ c̓ k̓ q̓>
/b d ɟ g/ <b d j g>
/bˤ dˤ ɟˤ gˤ/ <bʿ dʿ jʿ gʿ>
/m n ɲ ŋ ɴ/ <m n ñ ŋ ɴ>
/mˤ nˤ ɲˤ/ <mʿ nʿ ñʿ>
/m̥ n̥ ŋ̊/ <mh nh ŋh>
/l lʲ lˤ ɬ/ <l λ lʿ ł>
/j jˤ/ <y yʿ>
/ʀ/ <γ̂>
/w ʍ/ <w hʷ>
/f s θ ç x χ/ <f s θ ŝ x x̂>
/sʷ θʷ xʷ χʷ/ <sʷ θʷ xʷ x̂ʷ>
/f' s' θ' x'/ <f̓ s̓ θ̓ x̓>
/sʷ' θʷ' xʷ'/ <f̓ʷ s̓ʷ θ̓ʷ x̓ʷ>
/v z ð ʐ ʝ ɣ/ <v z đ r ẑ γ>
/vˤ zˤ ðˤ ʐˤ ʝˤ ɣˤ/ <vʿ zʿ đʿ rʿ ẑʿ γʿ>

/i a u/ <i a u>
/iː aː uː/ <ii aa uu>
/ĩ ã ũ/ <į ą ų>
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