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Moroccan Arabic might also have a length contrast. I'm not sure from Wikipedia if the reflexes of the short vowels are still phonemic, but it looks like short a/i and short u still contrast. MSA short and long vowels are both borrowed as "semi-long" vowels, though.

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Claire Bowern 21 languages in Australia with a pure /a i u/ system with no length contrast. There does not seem to be an explicit list of them all (though I suppose one could go hunting for her comparative database, I think at least parts of it are online), but some examples are , and .

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Sure, there are some in Australia. But Australia is a very strange place, and of the languages outside Australia, how many of them have a pure /a i u/ system with no length contrast? I'd be surprised if there are more than twenty.

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To give another non-Australian example, the Adzera language (Austronesian, Papua New Guinea) has /a i u/ without length contrast, tone or nasalization. It does have diphthongs /ai/ and /au/, though:
http://www-01.sil.org/pacific/png/pubs/ ... ra_opd.pdf

Also, maybe some Berber languages? There seem to be a lot of disagreement about how to analyse them but I think for example Tashlhiyt Berber has been analysed as having three phonemic vowels /a i u/ without length:
https://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal ... 2/document
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