another riddle: what meaning is common to these?

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another riddle: what meaning is common to these?

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I have recently observed that all Dama words differing by one consonant only are also connected by MEANING. So, try to answer: how are these 9 words/concepts connected by meaning? What is common in all of them (apart from their form)?
(Although Dama words were defined through a divinatory random function and not by human intelligence).
Here is another group of 9 words to find out how they are connected by meaning. The answer in Dama is: "BUMO BIKON WOME NO". I have an answer in mind, but yours might be better.
JUKO, craze, stupidity.
JUTO, skin.
JUBO, closing, obstructing.
JUNO, name.
JUMO, density, thickness.
JUJO, attraction.
JURO, particles, the most elemental things.
JUWO, dirt, impurity.
JUSO, the moon; also, month.
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Re: another riddle: what meaning is common to these?

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The answer is that they're not connected. Your conlang isn't some mystical thing that's somehow superior to all other languages. It's just a conlang.
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Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

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Re: another riddle: what meaning is common to these?

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While what Matrix says is true, we're all constructing worlds of make-believe, so why not this one?

I managed to connect them all, but only indirectly

particles -> moon (the moon is made of particles)
moon + attraction -> craze (depends on the culture, and not universal, obviously)
moon > attraction (gravity, tides)
impurity <-> particles -> density -> obstruction
closing -> skin (-> name?)

Question: why are you trying to group them like this?
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Re: another riddle: what meaning is common to these?

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It is the "eureka effect".
For these 9 words, my answer is here https://www.facebook.com/groups/omado.s ... 689175920/ For all groups of 9 Dama words differentiated by one consonant, I have found an answer. This is called a eureka effect. (NUMA NIBA WIJO).
To din I may have to explain, I did not define the Dama words, their definition was done by divination in the form of random.
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Nice name for a random meanings generator. Is it online or is it a program?

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Zju wrote:Nice name for a random meanings generator. Is it online or is it a program?
In my own view, it is not random, it is divination. I prayed before doing that, and it was a prayer for the best of all humanity.
How did I do it? Have a look here: https://www.academia.edu/12434367/theory_history
I had a list of 222 most necessary meanings, and also I had in mind some other meanings that although not indispensable would be very practical to have if I could have words for them. Since Dama could accommodate 264 morphemes, I added meanings that I missed before, and then I used a random function to join the meanings to the forms. If you have 2 columns in a spreadsheet, simply randomize one column to correspond to the other one. Some forms were still remaining without meanings. I used another type of random to give a meaning to them, because it was impossible for me to do unless in many years. But Dama was born in as little time as it takes for a kid to be born. See the link I gave for details, and you r welcome to ask questions in https://www.facebook.com/groups/omado.sosti.matiko/
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