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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:12 am 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:53 am 
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Location: tʰæ.ɹʷˠə.ˈgɜʉ̯.nɜ kʰæ.tə.ˈlɜʉ̯.nʲɜ spɛ̝ɪ̯n ˈjʏː.ɹəʔp
I suspect so too, I don't remember that extra vowel. I was convinced the word was one syllable.

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I'm trying out the Michel Thomas Polish course, and I can tell you that having studied Russian and a long time ago a little Ukrainian really helps.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:23 pm 
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At the host family in Morocco today, host father asks me if /stãws/ was a good time to go to the pool tomorrow. I thought he had slipped into French (not an uncommon occurrence here!) and so I got confused. Host dad sees that I'm not understanding and repeats himself in Modern Standard Arabic: sitta wa nifṣ or six thirty. That Moroccan Arabic contraction tho!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:03 pm 
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That contraction is sexy. I would love to learn Arabic, but I need a fluent speaker to learn from.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:31 am 
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RE:Arabic
I still struggle pronouncing the emphatic consonants, mostly word-finally. I think I have the voiced and voiceless pharyngeal fricatives almost down.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:45 pm 
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I am in Lisbon right now but oh Lord I can hardly understand people here with my Brazilian ear and often just speak English


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Location: tʰæ.ɹʷˠə.ˈgɜʉ̯.nɜ kʰæ.tə.ˈlɜʉ̯.nʲɜ spɛ̝ɪ̯n ˈjʏː.ɹəʔp
Had a few years of speaking Spanish now, but it's still a language I have to think about: vocab, grammar, pronounciation. If only I could drop one, then it would make life easier, like pronounciation:
[ɒ.lɜ ǀ kʰɛ.ˈtʰæɫ]?
[sɔɪ̯ ʏn æŋ.ˈglɒ.fə.nɜʉ̯ tʰɛʉ.ˈtʰæɫ]

It's [tʰɛʉ̯.tˡɫ̩.ˈmɛn.tʰɛɪ̯] wrong, but it feels so right! Especially when I'm tired and my neurons aren't firing up properly.

[æ.dɪi̯.ˈɒs] :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:39 am 
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That's what I do whenever I have to actually speak english <as opposed to write it>. I just pronounce it as if it were regular old spanish.

so ai saund mor or les laik dis, clír vauels en evrizing. enits ríli a lot mor riláxing dan having to pur in de cógnitiv rísorses to du de jol pronunsiéichon zing.

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[it tsɔʔuld xavɛ bɛʔɛn mutsx vɔrsɛ]

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I mean, pronouncing Spanish more like Spanish than like your native language is a pretty low bar for not having an accent.

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I can *imitate* an actual englishman relatively well, but I can absolutely not speak like an actual englishman during random English conversation. I take out my Dunglish there automatically.


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I am typing out my grandfather's World War II diary s l o w l y . It's mostly in Malayalam. I've been sitting on one page like all week instead of just banging it out.

EDIT: Oh, and my parents taught me three words for something like 'contagious disease' in Malayalam just hours ago, and I've already forgotten all three of them! Urgh!


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I'm trying to memorize the Cherokee word for cook (v.), and it's just not working. How can you have such a common word be six syllables long?! The combination of the syllables, the vowel length, and the tone (Oklahoma Cherokee has six of them) is what gets me. I'm starting to wonder if there was a shorter word for "to cook" that just didn't get written down in the dictionary I have.Japanese feels friendly by comparison.

Still determined to get fluent, but it's going slowly.


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