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I decided that simply borrowing it was boring, and so I came up with a little folk etymology by taking two existing morphemes which together sound a little like cucumber, and using their meaning to come up with an explanation for its name.

cuacômo ˈkwakoːmʊ (n) cucumber

cua- is a prefix meaning things like big, blown up, inflated, wide or thick. Cômo is the passive form of com, dirt. By itself it doesn't mean much. Perhaps it could be 'made with dirt' or 'made into dirt', but not 'dirtied', as that would be acômo. So together, cuacômo could be taken to mean something like 'big thing made of dirt' or 'inflated dirt', which I guess could be explained through their quick growth, close to the ground.

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sienît ˈɕənijt (n) history (historical account, compare nâcho); account, story, tale
- sie- (pref) moving away; changing shape, material or form
- nît (n) time; period (compare noth)

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The etymology for this word is nowhere near as interesting as , but oh well:

saulthadog ˈsolθɪðoʊ (n) bulldozer
- saul- (pref) slowly creeping, inching forward, moving heavily
- thadog, active participle of thog (v) to push, to shove (compare sogodd); to push something forward

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Well, the month of May is literally called 'honey moon': tholenolda ˈθoləˌnolda (n) May {thole, honey + nolda, moon}

Going on vacation after one's wedding isn't exactly traditional among the Miott, but western people all do the same things nowadays, so there's a word for it:

mothuadenohnin ˈmoθwɪðəˌnohnɪn (n) honeymoon (v) to go on a honeymoon
- mothuade ˈmoθwɪðə (v) to marry, to wed
- - moth- (pref) together, in a duo, twinned, paired up, allied, complementary
- - uade (v) to make sure, to ensure; to insure {from EN wed or ON veðja}
- nohnin ˈnohnɪn (v) to travel, to journey; to go on a holiday (n) trip, journey

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North Pannonian: čůvmůkel or čůva

čůva /tSuova/ 'small hole' < *k'ewHwos (contrasts with kach 'big hole')
můkel /muok@l/ 'discoloration' < Lat. macula

(I'm still not sure whether /uo/ < /O/ should be <å>, <ů>, or <uo> -- maybe an alternative is to standardize the spelling before the Great Pannonian Vowel Shift and use <au> or <aa>/<á>)

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mandelnem ˈmɛndənːəm (n) almond milk
- mandel ˈmɛnːəl (n) almond {via LA amandula ultimately from GR ἀμυγδαλή}
- nem nəm (n) milk (v) to milk; to rub, to stroke (archaic)

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Bread crumbs made intentionally:
chuslau < chus 'cracker' + ˀlau 'flour' (reanalyzed as a first-declension collective noun, *ala:v > *ala:u)

Bread crumbs made unintentionally:
bukkavau < buk 'bread' + kavau 'droppings'

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huarhaiara ˈhwaɾɪˌjaɾa (n) walking stick, cane
+ huarha (v) to stroll, to walk leisurely {from ON hvarfa, to wander}
+ iara (n) thin, long object; stick, rod; remote control (abbreviation of rhiadaniara); (v) to be very tall; to be stretched; to be outstretched, to be straightened

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ˀusseeˀchirai 'choose'

So ˀusseeˀcha, Pikaču!

From PIE *ug'h-deh1g-s-. Mutation from perfective sigmatism was regular in PP but removed by analogy in NP, sometimes creating doublets of perfective and imperfective verbs which split into new semantically momentane or habitual forms. In this case, the other half of the doublet is ˀusseeˀkirai 'like'.

This is one of Pannonian's quirky-case verbs: the subject appears in the dative. Köˀm eˀ Mëgdanëldzů žai fišfileiŋ ˀusseeˀchu.

*ug'h- doesn't exist in the real world; the etymology of Proto-Balto-Slavic *uź, the element in the Slavic vzjat-like forms for 'take', appears to be unknown. However, the fun thing about a conbranch of IE is that you can provide conevidence for reconstructed PIE.

Also, infinitive forms vary heavily across Pannonian dialects, due to differences in the extent of vowel reduction, the outcome of PIE diphthongs, and the extent of preservation of *h. Standard North Pannonian generally preserves monophthongization except word-finally and has little reduction, hence -irai and -uvai in the standard; dialectal forms range from -(u)rä and -(u)fä to -ir and -ëv.

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'dagger' (lit. 'stabber'):

sg. indef. nukme
pl. indef. nukmemu
sg. def. nukmedə
pl. def. nokmemudər
sg. indef. 3rd sg. m. poss. nukmetə
pl. indef. 3rd sg. m. poss. nokmemutə
sg. def. 3rd sg. m. poss. nokmitdə
pl. def. 3rd sg. m. poss. nokmemutdər

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I ended up creating a very tautological word which literally would break down to 'great important (one)':

oimenie ˈʊjməɲə (n) general, captain; leader of a group
- oi- (pref) augmentative; main, principle, most important
- menie (v) to be important, to be great, to be regarded highly (compare mat); to be skilled, to be a master of one's trade or skill

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I ended up making another word for this (because I thought the first one below was a little odd), and then I discovered that I already had two words for it, instead of one. Oh well, synonyms aren't a bad thing to have, and one is slightly different anyway.

muantanda ˈmwɛntɪnːa (n) sunset; the time around sunset; dusk (see also cor); west; hobby, pastime (with possessive; synonym of tornît; also compare miulthog); (v) for the sun to set; to be the time around sunset
- muat- (pref) under (static or moving under), out of something; down or downwards; low location (as a property)
- manda (n) sun

tornît ˈtoɹniːt (n) hobby, pastime, pursuit (synonym of muantanda; also compare miulthog)
- tor- (pref) around or pertaining to the neck and chest, heart or in the throat; relating to spirits or the spiritual; related to emotional pain or sorrow; With voice; The language of...; behind, at the back of, to the end of, at the end, after
- nît (n) time; period (for «the time that...», see noth)

miulthog ˈmyːlθoː (n) sport; game (requiring physical effort); hobby, pastime (requiring physical effort; otherwise consider tornît, muantanda)
- miul- (pref) good, pleasant, positive, beautiful; correct, right
- thog (v) to push, to shove (compare sogodd); to push something forward

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