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I just edited the above post to add consonant romanization. A few notes:

1) I decided to go with < !t !k !l > for the clicks rather than a similar system I've seen, which is < t! k! l! > etc. I felt that the ! before the consonant looks better for some reason. To me, having the ! first says "HEY, THIS IS DIFFERENT!", which indicates the click, and then the following consonant says what the place of articulation is. Also, the syllable structure allows stops in coda, so this clears any ambiguity as to what is a coda or onset.

2) The glottalized clicks are indicated with the same notation as ejectives, even though they are not ejective. Since ejectives & implosives are related to glottalization, this seemed to be a fair representation.

3) I'm debating on whether to use <c> or <ch>.

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

<c>. It reduces word length.

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ìtsanso, God In The Mountain, may our names inspire the deepest feelings of fear in urkos and all his ilk, for we have saved another man from his lies! I welcome back to the feast hall kal, who will never gamble again! May the eleven gods bless him!

I would go with <c> simply because I prefer <c> over <ch> except when aspiration is indicated, where then I would prefer <ch>.

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Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

I concur. The motion is passed.

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

BOOM!!! Nice.

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

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Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = , ACS / ICS = , GDV = , SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific
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Thanks for the reply! I'll get back to this in a few days when I'm back from vacation and have a full PC.

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

Having a conlanging writer's block lately, mostly due to a lack of creative ideas for pronouns in Jinn. Bleh.

Mostly bumping to make sure I don't lose the info in the thread.

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

This should be moved into the permanent C&C forum.

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ìtsanso, God In The Mountain, may our names inspire the deepest feelings of fear in urkos and all his ilk, for we have saved another man from his lies! I welcome back to the feast hall kal, who will never gamble again! May the eleven gods bless him!

_________________
- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

Jin: Syllable Structure

Technically, Jin's syllable structure can be seen as (C)V(V)(C). In practice, it's mostly CV, and there are no consonant clusters in onsets or codas.

Initial syllables can omit the onset consonant.

Final syllables of a word can have a coda consonant, and the "linker" prepositional clitic al- also has a coda consonant.

Onsets: All consonants are allowed as onsets.

Codas: Clicks are not allowed in coda.

All syllables will have only 1 vowel quality (i, a, or u), and most will have 1 register. Words of 1 syllable may have a contour of 2 registers, depending on tense. The orthography for this is just 2 of the same vowel with different diacritics, such as <âa>, <üú>, etc.

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

Jin: Glossing Abbreviations

Personal Pronouns
1SA = 1st person singular active
1SS = 1st person singular stative
1PA = 1st person plural active
1PS = 1st person plural stative
2PA = 2nd person active
2PS = 2nd person stative
3PA = 3rd person active
3PS = 3rd person stative

NDA = near demonstrative active
NDS = near demonstrative stative
DDA = distant demonstrative active
DDS = distant demonstrative stative


Relative Pronouns
1RA = 1st person relative active
1RS = 1st person relative stative
2RA = 2nd person relative active
2RS = 2nd person relative stative
3RA = 3rd person relative active
3RS = 3rd person relative stative

NRA = near (demonstrative) relative active
NRS = near (demonstrative) relative stative
DRA = distant (demonstrative) relative active
DRS = distant (demonstrative) relative stative


Number / Definiteness / Specificity
SNG = singulative


Tenses
TDP = tense: (episodic) distant past
TNP = tense: (episodic) near past
TEN = tense: episodic now (present)
TNF = tense: (episodic) near future
TDF = tense: (episodic) distant future

TGP = tense: gnomic past
TGN = tense: gnomic now (present)
TGF = tense: gnomic future


Voices
VIA = voice: intransitive active
VIS = voice: intransitive stative
VTA = voice: transitive active
VTS = voice: transitive stative
VPA = voice: passive active
VPS = voice: passive stative
VAA = voice: antipassive active
VAS = voice: antipassive stative
VRA = voice: reflexive active
VRS = voice: reflexive stative
VCA = voice: reciprocal active
VCS = voice: reciprocal stative
VMA = voice: impersonal active
VMS = voice: impersonal stative


Miscellaneous
LNK = linker / genitive

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

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- My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

- An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings