Does this confirm the existence of the "trolls" of almea?ebd?nm?k troll [`excavation-stealer']
Trolls?
Trolls?
Re: Trolls?
I asked Zomp about this in a post a while back, and received the following reply:Jaaaaaa wrote:Does this confirm the existence of the "trolls" of almea?ebd?nm?k troll [`excavation-stealer']
I'm not certain about the reference to Amna:s, but I think it may be the equivalent of the devil (Satan, Kezon) in Cuezi belief (Z can correct me on this).zompist wrote:Fair enough, tho' once the basic similarities are there (short stature, mountain homes, love of making things, long lives) it's hard to escape Durin's shadow. There's some stories about the elcari in the Count of Years; you can judge more how they turned out from that...Glenn Kempf wrote:2. The repeatedly-discussed word ebdunmak ("excavation-stealer") is glossed as "troll." What kind of critter is this? An actual creature, a mythological being, or a metaphorical expression? It hasn't been listed among the Thinking Kinds, to be sure, but the word "troll" calls up a wide range of associations (as, to be sure, does "dwarf"--depite a number of well-thought-out differences the elcari turned out to be a bit more dwarvish than I had expected (especially the drinking part)).
Speaking of the Count of Years, it also tells about the trolls-- briefly, they were an attempt of Amna:s to counter the humans. They were nearly eliminated, but a few still survive in hidden places, where they can still harrass a protagonist or two.
Does this help answer the question?
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Glenn
It's more that they don't know that they don't exist. As with the Giants, there are legends about times when they flourished, and stories about random encounters since, but nothing about their final destruction.Jaaaaaa wrote:BUt in the Descend of the Les, uh... Lesuasi was it? the name escapes me. But anyway, in that dopcument it says that their existence is questionable. Why does it sya that if the Elcari at least know that they exist?