So Bala^H^H^H^HSidhdhimlak

Pthagnar · Post by **Pthagnar** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:08 am

Having nothing else to do apart from my Oceania-style world populated entirely by people from Britain who arrived there 10,000 years ago and have evo...But I digress. Not even being able to do that, because of not being able to get the books on historical linguists yet, I decided to sit down and translate something into Verdurian.

I looked around. There was the Bible! But how boring, and those nice Eledhe people have got that sorted anyway. There's always /The Hobbit/? Nah. Then my eyes set upon... well. You figure it out from the hideously mangled, amateurish Verdurian below. It's only a tiny, tiny part of the whole thing, but this was all I managed to do before getting a little sleepy, so if the whole thing isn't even worth redeeming by offering suggestions, I have that in my defence.

SIĎĎIMLAK?

?er?

SO DUNA PERE ? SO ATUNY SIĎĎIMLAKI?

E so hora cre?en perčena u dom Siďďimlaki?. Persy er Siďďimlak? cre?i yonog Elizabeďem.

PERSY:
Lačai mizec, Edmund, dy ei unye! E rodo intoran perčena l? cum et i? soi lanc? er sfai so dem?i.

SIĎĎIMLAK?:
Mizu, Persy, dy so belacatom telle r?cora razumbr? er tisir? pro lialan ir so malfaom er be?ir muďe rak Aď?n.

PERSY:
(Rauete)Ar, acinco tot!

SIĎĎIMLAK?:
Ac řo et. Ditaurai urkbem cumpognul se ?esan suzamen dy ai so muďe dobre.

Siďďimlak? lialve er l?de lazec soi pisi.

-Pthag of Sandelfon
And then some mistakes were probably introduced when trying to transcribe my handwriting, too.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:43 am

Aha! I can't speak as to the Verdurian, but I did figure out what you were translating from. I won't give it away outright (for those who might know it), but I will say that it is forever linked in my mind with the line "Fear not, my lord, for I have a cunning plan that cannot fail..."

p@,
Glenn

Yezhan Seru · Post by **Yezhan Seru** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:45 am

Is it really cunning? Is it as cunning say, as an extremely cunning fox who has just become professor of cunning at Oxford university?

Warmaster · Post by **Warmaster** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:06 pm

I have a cunning plan indeed {one of my fave programmes!}

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:59 pm

Should I be worried that I know all the words to the fourth series?

Anyway, not speaking Verdurian, I don't know exactly what it is...

Pthagnar · Post by **Pthagnar** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:32 pm

In a vain attempt to draw everyones eyes towards the Verdurian, I'll spoil everyones fun and say that it's from the first scene of Blackadder the Second in Beer.

The original English version in my memory follows:

The Whole Damn Dynasty wrote: BLACKADDER

Beer

SCENE 1 ? BLACKADDER'S PLACE

It's breakfast-time at Blackadder's place and Percy and Blackadder are eating the Elizabethan equivalent of toast.

PERCY:
I must say, Edmund, that it was awfully kind of you to invite me to share breakfast with you before the rigours of the day"

BLACKADDER:
They say, Persy, that the civilised man seeks intelligent conversation so that he might rise above the savage and come closer to God.

PERCY:
(Delighted)Yes, I heard that!

BLACKADDER:
I, however, choose to have breakfast with a complete dickhead just to show that I'm best.

Blackadder goes to check the post.

Pthag of Sandelfon
-Spoily

Raphael · Post by **Raphael** » Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:24 am

You should have tried to find Verdurian equivalents for the names- this way, they give it away even to someone who doesn't know one Verdurian word.

Pthagnar · Post by **Pthagnar** » Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:02 am

Raphael wrote:You should have tried to find Verdurian equivalents for the names- this way, they give it away even to someone who doesn't know one Verdurian word.

To be fair, I did manage it with Blackadder, but Percy and Edmund are harder as I don't have one of those Big List of Baby Names With Meanings book.

However, I do have the Interweb, so let us go for a look:
*looks around a little*

www.behindthename.com wrote:PERCY m English
Pronounced: PUR-see
This name can either be a short form of PERCIVAL or else it can derive from a surname which was itself derived from a Norman place name. Percy Bysshe Shelley was a romantic poet from England whose works include 'Adonais' and 'Ozymandias'.

And as PERCIVAL is a

www.behindthename.com wrote:Celtic name of unknown meaning.

we'll go with the place name, so we're stuck with Persy.

www.behindthename.com wrote:EDMUND m English, German
Pronounced: ED-mund
Means "rich protector" from Old English ead "rich, blessed" and mund "protector"

Now we're getting somewhere!
*looks up the list of Verdurian Names*

Verdurian Names wrote:leti - wealth - LETA
vuran - warrior

So Edmund could (as there seems to be no "protector" part) be Verdurianised into Veranlet.

Pthag of Sandelfon
-Overusing the quote function

Drydic · Post by **Drydic** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:36 am

Pthag wrote:-Overusing the quote function

No, that occured a while back:
http://www.spinnoff.com/zbb/viewtopic.p ... c&start=50
I think the record was between 25-30 before it deleted my starting quote.