The Almean Name Thread

GreenBowTie · Post by **GreenBowTie** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:59 pm

Hey, I was kind of bored, so I made some more. Some of them are probably a little out there, since I tried to keep the same original meaning (and sometimes had to just get the closest thing I could find), but it was fun.

George Washington: Iorio ?vustei Sfica
Abraham Lincoln: Avr?m Tomaei Shoruan*
Albert Einstein: Clairion Belgomei Ďum?y
Queen Elizabeth II: Elisave Vinzor elrei
Orson Welles: Urez Gr?sefarei Demeča
George W. Bush: Iorio Ioriei Scilec
Mark Rosenfelder: Marco Řasmesti (I don't know his father's name)

*How do you do the genitive of "-ao"?

Post by **zompist** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:16 pm

How do you get 'Sfica' and 'Shoruan'?

IIRC 'Washington' is 'town of the followers of Wasa', which could Verdurianize as Vaseydan.

Tomaei is correct.

My father's name is Charles, but unfortunately that's a Germanic name the Elenicoi wouldn't have known. I used to figure 'Karlei', but one could also use a calque, e.g. Hutoromei.

GreenBowTie · Post by **GreenBowTie** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:05 pm

Sfica is kind of a stretch, and maybe a bit overzealous. The name of the town of Washington (where Washington's family is from) ultimately means something along the lines of "town of the followers of Hw?s", and "hw?s" meant "sharp". I tried to find "sharp" in the list of family names, but all I found was "nail". My Verdurian is, shall we say, lacking.

"Shoruan" likewise comes from a place name etymology; according to this site "Lincoln" comes from "Lindum Colonia", and "Lindum" most likely meant "dark pool" or "dark waters".

And Hutoromei, then, would be my preference (whether or not it's yours I have no idea). Whenever possible I like to translate name meanings (or at least use cognates) rather than just copy the original name. (Which is partly why my list of Verdurian names is so small.)

drahomira · Post by **drahomira** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:54 am

My first name means "peace". I looked for a nice-sounding equivalent and the best I could find was P?cai [I don't like the other derivations, they're ugly]. My father's name is David, so my patronymic would be Ďavida. My last name means something like "of the knight", and I looked and didn't find a Verdurian equivalent of "knight", so "fighter" is good enough: Bazno. I rather like that.

The best name on the list is definitely "Nařbes" -- two-sheds -- I suppose that was one of the hidden jokes? [Edited because I screwed up the code.]

Neek · Post by **Neek** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:17 pm

To add, I've decided to give my son his name in Verdurian! My most difficult time is with his first name, Tristan. I can translate the name directly, being Tristán. I'd calque it, but the meaning's split between "tumultuous, riot" or "sad," but Tristán is good enough.

Tristán Nícolei Sunsera seems to be a good and probable name choice, but the mother prefers Grey to Tristan, so perhaps Grise Nícolei Sunsera would be more appropriate.

Leo · Post by **Leo** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:15 am

Is it OK for me to take on the name Guryon Bežia (Leo Kinetic) ?

Sebastian · Post by **Sebastian** » Sun May 27, 2007 1:55 pm

Giving children Verdurian names is a good idea...

Verdurian: Pé|dalua Medroa Bernhard|ei Andr|ei (Frede|ric Sebastian Bernhard|[son of] Andrea|[son of]), ([name] [name] [paternal] [maternal])
Cad'inor: Peoseloria Eglerec Bernhardei Andrei
Flaidish has neither "dignity" nor "praise" - a problem for my "Sebastian", so I just forgot about it.

Post by **zompist** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:13 pm

Some of the Germanic names there now have standard equivalents:

http://www.almeopedia.com/index.php/Ger ... a?inorized

Aszev · Post by **Aszev** » Tue May 29, 2007 2:04 pm

http://www.almeopedia.com/index.php/Ger ... 8Finorized

I get a ? in your link above, for the ď

Sebastian · Post by **Sebastian** » Thu May 31, 2007 5:09 am

zompist wrote:Some of the Germanic names there now have standard equivalents:

http://www.almeopedia.com/index.php/Ger ... a?inorized

I know. But it's nice to invent own versions

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:54 am

Sorry for being ignorant but where and how do i translate my name ?? seems cool

Well my full name is Lewis Markorolev Steward no idea if this is nessacery and lewis means "Famouse Warrior" or "Fame and War" it is germanic

Post by **zompist** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:45 am

Louie wrote:Sorry for being ignorant but where and how do i translate my name ?? seems cool

Well my full name is Lewis Markorolev Steward no idea if this is nessacery and lewis means "Famouse Warrior" or "Fame and War" it is germanic

Lewis is already in the Germanic names list (in the form Louis). Replace the middle name with your father's name as a genitive. And you can easily translate Steward from the dictionary.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:16 pm

Ah very sorry lol when i posted i didnt notice these listes i think they was posted when i was typing.

Replace the middle name with your father's name

Markorolev is my fathers name.

you can easily translate Steward from the dictionary

What do you mean what dictionary an ordinary english one or have you got some verdurian one???

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Post by **zompist** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:35 pm

Louie wrote:Markorolev is my fathers name.

His given name? I.e. he is named Markorolev Steward?

What do you mean what dictionary an ordinary english one or have you got some verdurian one???

Of course, see my site.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:39 pm

His given name? I.e. he is named Markorolev Steward?

yea that is his name

well i dunno which site i have know idea how many sites you have. sorry

- · Post by - » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:28 pm

Louie wrote:
His given name? I.e. he is named Markorolev Steward?
yea that is his name

well i dunno which site i have know idea how many sites you have. sorry

He means this site. The dictionaries are there in English-Verdurian, Verdurian-English, and Thematic versions.

Ancenande · Post by **Ancenande** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:49 pm

Let's see...

Apparently, "Javier" (Xavier in English) is something like "new house". So it'd translate as lebe + dom = Domlebe.

"Gustavo"/"Gustav" isn't there; it means "staff of the goths". Staff is prosh; I didn't find Goth in the dictionary so I'll leave it as it is. Goprosh --> Goproshei.

"Badia" means something like "bay" -->tas.

So my name in Verdurian is Domlebe Goproshei Tas. I like it

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:24 am

I have been searching and i couldn't find Markorolev. However i broke it down, i found out that Mark - "Warlike" and Korolev is Russian for "queens", so if i put them together.

War in Verdurian is "Belgo" and Like is "koškan" and Queen is "Elrei" so all together it is:

Belgokoškanelrei

Lewis - Bracpon

Steward - Hozën or kešaro but i dunno which one.

So my name all together is - Bracpon Belgokoškanelrei Hozën/kešaro

- · Post by - » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:58 am

Louie wrote:War in Verdurian is "Belgo" and Like is "koškan"

Verdurian has rules for adjectivizing words (see the grammar sketch). "Belgete" or "Combelgo" might work for this, or it may be that some of the existing Verdurian names already have this sense ("Belges" maybe?). Or you could just use the Verdurian form of Mark.

Contrail · Post by **Contrail** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:49 am

I think my name in Verdurian would end up being Curulë Përei Suletë. (I hope that's the correct feminine form of sulete.)

My first name (Carolyn) is a feminine form of a name (Charles) that translated into Verdurian doesn't have a feminine form, so I went with a first name that sounds a bit like my first name and has a meaning related to that of my middle name (Celeste).

- Contrail

Post by **zompist** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:04 am

Contrail wrote:My first name (Carolyn) is a feminine form of a name (Charles) that translated into Verdurian doesn't have a feminine form, so I went with a first name that sounds a bit like my first name and has a meaning related to that of my middle name (Celeste).

I think Curulë is a great name.

The equivalent of Charles, Pon, can be easily feminized as Pona. Though as this has the colloquial meaning "dyke", it may be best avoided.

Post by **zompist** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:17 am

Louie wrote:I have been searching and i couldn't find Markorolev. However i broke it down, i found out that Mark - "Warlike" and Korolev is Russian for "queens", so if i put them together.

War in Verdurian is "Belgo" and Like is "koškan" and Queen is "Elrei" so all together it is:

You can't treat a dictionary as a code. "Koškan" is the dative of "cat".

'Warlike' would be belgocole, but there is already an equivalent of Mark, namely Marco.

If I'm not mistaken ''korolev'' is genitive plural "of the queens" (the nominative 'queens would be ''korolevi''). The Verdurian is elreië, but Verdurian can't form names that way. The best thing would be to use the existing name element --(r)ion 'ruler'.

That gives Marcorion, whose genitive is Marcorionei.

So you are Bracpon Marcorionei Hozën.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:35 pm

You can't treat a dictionary as a code.

Yea i know, i still have alot to learn.

Bracpon Marcorionei Hozën

Haha that looks cool.

Belgokoškanelrei

That looks really cool tho

what does it translate to literally?

dunomapuka · Post by **dunomapuka** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:01 pm

My name is really Elenico: Ihano Atóniei Matia. But I wish I could incorporate my pagan middle name, Ďalhežec.

Blackhand · Post by **Blackhand** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:30 pm

Louie wrote:
Belgokoškanelrei
That looks really cool tho
what does it translate to literally?

Well it's horrible Verdurian, but it'd be something like 'War to the cat queens'. And that's not 'cat queens', but seperate nouns 'cat' and 'queens'. Notice how little sense it makes.