I seem to remember that Ertala was part of the last dynasty that was not recognized as legitimate emperors by a lot of people, and the last emperor that was universally recognized was a teenage boy.Glenn Kempf wrote: The last emperor of Cadhinor was Ertala, according to the Historical Atlas and the Secret History of Verduria; he was indeed young and ambitious, but not that pleasant a character (and he was defeated and killed himself to boot). Maybe something different...
He's writing in English, though. Borrowed words normally don't take their declensions along, except sometimes the plural (not even that, if the language is exotic).daan wrote:Am I also allowed to say something off-topic? Shm Jay: with a s?pa? Not cum s?pan? Because as I read the grammar, I would think that a dative should follow with.
It depends what /k/ is. If /k/ is [k], then it's impossible to velarise it, it's already velar. But if /k/ is [q], it's entirely possible to velarise it.Ahribar wrote:I thought velarised k was impossible...zompist wrote:So Haleza's comments are good. The sentence should be (according to my grammatical sketch):
Sahiz kuran ariz Ubingkayi?.
is language my Obenzayet-gen.
(L?vani does mean 'tongue', but the word for 'language' is kuran, where k is velarized.)
You're right--I wasn't looking back in the Historical Atlas far enough.Shm Jay wrote:I seem to remember that Ertala was part of the last dynasty that was not recognized as legitimate emperors by a lot of people, and the last emperor that was universally recognized was a teenage boy.Glenn Kempf wrote: The last emperor of Cadhinor was Ertala, according to the Historical Atlas and the Secret History of Verduria; he was indeed young and ambitious, but not that pleasant a character (and he was defeated and killed himself to boot). Maybe something different...
You're probably thinking of young Emperor Dhallir, who was executed (along with his family) by the aristocrats of the Red Cabal in 2107, well before the folks you, I, and Mark mentioned; this brought an end to that dynasty and helped usher in the Dark Years.I know that the accent in ataboi is on the second syllable, but I can't help looking at the word and its meaning and thinking, "Attaboy!"Zompist wrote:The current kings of Zh?sifo style themselves eloroi rather than ataboi 'emperors'
Indeed; borrowed words in English take English plurals and other features frequently, as in the Russian "Bolsheviks", "refuseniks", etc.; I even have a translation of Anna Karenina that turns her into Anna Karenin.Zompist wrote:He's writing in English, though. Borrowed words normally don't take their declensions along, except sometimes the plural (not even that, if the language is exotic).
I did that once in Latin with some Greek words. I even used the Homeric-phi(n) for the Ablative! For some reason, my teacher wasn't happy about that. Maybe because the story was supposed to be translated by the 2nd years!zompist wrote:He's writing in English, though. Borrowed words normally don't take their declensions along, except sometimes the plural (not even that, if the language is exotic).daan wrote:Am I also allowed to say something off-topic? Shm Jay: with a s?pa? Not cum s?pan? Because as I read the grammar, I would think that a dative should follow with.
