Of indirect object derivational morphology

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Of indirect object derivational morphology

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Do any languages, nat or con, have morphology which identifies the indirect object of a verb with a derivation from the verb itself? For example, in English the subject of give is identified by giver and the object, usually, by gift, but the best word for the indirect object is recipient, which comes from a different verb. givee doesn't seem remotely appropriate.
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-ee has some rather odd morphology. It sometimes does refer to the indirect object: addressee, devotee, franchisee, mortgagee, trustee.

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Greater Atlian has these:
c) -ta (animate -tahu) – denotes the subject

uyi “to give” > uta “giver”

d) -pu (animate -puhu) – denotes the direct object, or indirect object of intransitive verbs

uyi “to give” > upu “gift, thing given”

e) u-[stem]-pu, w-[stem]-pu (animate u-[stem]-puhu, w-[stem]-puhu) – denotes the indirect object

uyi “to give” > wupu “recipient of a gift”

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My conlang Bengedian's derivational morphology hasn't quite "dried out" yet, though some solid forms have shown up:
  • -om attaches to a verb and denotes the agent:
    dalem "give" → dalom "giver"
    thangem "throw" → thangom "thrower"
    hiorem "learn" → hiorom "student"
  • -and denotes the direct object:
    dalem "give" → daland "gift"
    thangem "throw" → thangand "projectile"
    hiorem "learn" → hiorand "academic subject"
  • As of right now, the prefix/circumfix e---(u) (the final /u/ is omitted if the stem ends with a vowel or 2 consonants) denotes the indirect object:
    dalem "give" → edalu "recipient"
    thangem "throw" → etháng "catcher, target"
    hiorem "learn" → N/A
In particular, the indirect object one is liable to be changed. The others are pretty well established.
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