Words you love because of their sounds

[Izambri]

Murciélago, by the way, is used as a paradigmatic example of a word with all five vowels: murciélago.

[jmcd]

Hindi:
dhanyavaad

French:
Balbuzard pêcheur

Scots:
drouchit

Gaelic:
comhairlich

[Šm Mepuyoš ab Duhen]

Tokelau-north wind(one Polynesian language)
Fornax-Latin for oven

[Shrdlu]

Swedish: Grejsemojs(thingamajig in English)

[Herr Dunkel]

Jamals - awesome
Etwas - awesome
Schnee - awesome


German - awesome

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Haberdashery

[Herr Dunkel]

Cracker /kɹækəː/

[finlay]

Cracker /kɹækəː/

Wrong

[Xephyr]

Klallam: nəxʷsƛ̕ay̓əmúcən, 'Klallam'

[Herr Dunkel]

Cracker /kɹækəː/

Wrong

Seriously?
Since when does English have an unified phonology?

[Astraios]

It doesn't, but whatever 'cracker' is supposed to be in whatever English you like, it is never going to be /kɹækəː/.

[finlay]

Cracker /kɹækəː/

Wrong

Seriously?
Since when does English have an unified phonology?

You're missing the point here. The second vowel is never long. In any English.

[Jipí]

English isn't usually transcribed with long schwas. It's /krækə(˞)/.

EDIT: What Finlay said.

[jmcd]

In fact, can anyone name a language which does have long schwa?

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Vietnamese has one (spelled ơ), but it's in free variation with [ɤ].
Also Khmer does according to some people, but there's a lot of disagreement over which phonetic vowels it actually has.

[finlay]

In fact, can anyone name a language which does have long schwa?

England-English, but not in the word "cracker". Sure, they write it /ɜː/ a lot of the time but it's 6 and two 3s.

[Herr Dunkel]

You're missing the point here. The second vowel is never long. In any English.

Let's call it /kɹækɜː/ even thouɡh I have a more schwa-like realisation.
I believe it's called compensatory lengthening because of the rhotic dropping.

[Drydic]

You're missing the point here. The second vowel is never long. In any English.

Let's call it /kɹækɜː/ even thouɡh I have a more schwa-like realisation.
I believe it's called compensatory lengthening because of the rhotic dropping.

Are you a native speaker of English? No. Therefore your speech does not count when deciding what sounds English has.

[Herr Dunkel]

You're missing the point here. The second vowel is never long. In any English.

Let's call it /kɹækɜː/ even thouɡh I have a more schwa-like realisation.
I believe it's called compensatory lengthening because of the rhotic dropping.

Are you a native speaker of English? No. Therefore your speech does not count when deciding what sounds English has.

I have that in my speech, and nobody ever misunderstood me.
Do you have any purpose in life other than to be a troll? No. Therefore your trolling doesn't count as constructive criticism

[Drydic]

You're missing the point here. The second vowel is never long. In any English.

Let's call it /kɹækɜː/ even thouɡh I have a more schwa-like realisation.
I believe it's called compensatory lengthening because of the rhotic dropping.

Are you a native speaker of English? No. Therefore your speech does not count when deciding what sounds English has.

I have that in my speech, and nobody ever misunderstood me.
Do you have any purpose in life other than to be a troll? No. Therefore your trolling doesn't count as constructive criticism

Informing you that you are wrong != trolling, despite what you want to believe.

[Herr Dunkel]

Informing you that you are wrong != trolling, despite what you want to believe.

It's destructively critical. Spewing some random "wrong"s is not quite nice.
I never got misunderstood with it.

And /ə/ and /ɜː/ are actually [ə] and [əː] (or [ɜ] and [ɜː])

Try this at 1:15

[Drydic]

Informing you that you are wrong != trolling, despite what you want to believe.

It's destructively critical. Spewing some random "wrong"s is not quite nice.
I never got misunderstood with it.

And /ə/ and /ɜː/ are actually [ə] and [əː] (or [ɜ] and [ɜː])

Try this at 1:15

If you're going to link to a file about sounds on wikipedia/wikimedia, don't link to the image alone, link to the page with its upload data. Otherwise there's no way to prove where it came from, how accurate it is, etc etc. And that image goes against what I've seen before for British English as far as were @ and 3: are, so...[citation needed].

[Herr Dunkel]

If you're going to link to a file about sounds on wikipedia/wikimedia, don't link to the image alone, link to the page with its upload data. Otherwise there's no way to prove where it came from, how accurate it is, etc etc. And that image goes against what I've seen before for British English as far as were @ and 3: are, so...[citation needed].

It's given by Peter Roach, the de-facto authority in RP for dictionaries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Received_P ... FRoach2004

[Ser]

Except that your source contradicts you, as it transcribed the schwa as short and the RP NURSE vowel as long, just as it's the tradition among English phoneticians... -___-

[Herr Dunkel]

Except that your source contradicts you, as it transcribed the schwa as short and the RP NURSE vowel as long, just as it's the tradition among English phoneticians... -___-

It's in the exact same POA, so it's exactly the same vowel, just length slapped on. Isn't it easier to consider them the same rather than doing something quite perplexing, such as giving one vowel two representations.
And I corrected meself anyway:

Let's call it /kɹækɜː/ even thouɡh I have a more schwa-like realisation.

Edit: well, it might not be exactly the same, but similar enough to be considered same.