The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

[Chagen]

Second: [sɛʔɪnʔ]

Seconds: [sɛʔɪnʔs]

[Travis B.]

Second: [sɛʔɪnʔ]

Seconds: [sɛʔɪnʔs]

[ʔ] for /k/? Wow. That is something I have not heard of before. (Seconds that way would seriously be parsed by my ears as sentence.)

[Chagen]

I, once again, crappily recorded myself saying both words twice.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0wmSvcAFSD0

[Travis B.]

In your recordings you seem to vary between [ɡ̊] and plain [ɡ] for /k/ in seconds - pronunciations that are quite conceivable here, which are certainly not [ʔ].

[Chagen]

Wierd, I don't feel any friction at all.

[Travis B.]

Wierd, I don't feel any friction at all.

Well those are stops, not fricatives; they are not [x] or [ɣ].

It seems like your transcribing [ʔ] must have been due to sensing a lenis dorsal stop in that position that you did not "expect", in contrast to the fortis stop you associated with /k/, without thinking that /k/ would be lenited but not to a glottal stop..

[jmcd]

tomb /tʉm/ [tʉm]
tome /tom/ [tom]

Though I suppose the /ʉ/ is usually actually slightly further front and lower than that I think. And aspiration of course.

[finlay]

/tum/, /tom/, /sɛkənd/, /sɛkəndz/, can't be bothered making accurate phonetic ones, although I'll note that /ən/ varies between that and [n̩] phonetically, and that my /u/ is a front-or-central monophthong and my /o/ is a back-or-central diphthong, at least usually. I associate the pronunciation /sɛkɪnt/ with AmE.

[Bob Johnson]

tomb [tʰuːm]
tome [tʰoʊ̯m]
If the T is rounded, it's on <tomb>. I noticed some people mixing them up, and even did it myself once...

month [mənθ]
months [mən(t)s], mints/mince merged
second [sɛ.kn̩(.d‿)], d dropped more than other liaison consonants
seconds [sɛ.kn̩(t)s] ~ [sɛ.kn̩z]

[Wattmann]

And on that note, how do you guys pronounce second and seconds?

For both of these, I have standardized pronunciations of:

second: /ˈsɜkɪnd/ > [ˈsɜɡ̊ɨ̃ːnd̥]
seconds: /ˈsɜkɪndz/ > [ˈsɜɡ̊ɨ̃ːnd̥s]

I also have everyday pronunciations for them of:

second: /ˈsɜkɪnt/ > [ˈsɜɡ̊ɨ̃ʔ]
seconds: /ˈsɜkɪnts/ > [ˈsɜɡ̊ɨ̃ʔts]

You have some weird-ass English... Nasal glottal stop ?? I'm going to steal your highlighting

/ˈsɛkənd/ > [ˈsɛknʔ]
/ˈsɛkənds/ > [ˈsɛknt͡s]

Do bear in mind that these are syllabic /n/s

[Bob Johnson]

Nasal glottal stop ?? I'm going to steal your highlighting

The vowel is nasal, not the ʔ. Also, colorblind?

[----]

second: [sɛkɨ̃ʔ ~ sɛxɨ̃ʔ]
seconds: [sɛkɨ̃t͡s ~ sɛxɨ̃t͡s]
Intervocalic stops other than /t/ and /d/ (which become an alveolar flap) are very light. There's almost no plosive release, and sometimes it even turns completely into a fricative.

I'm curious, what are the details on you guys' /s/ (i.e. apical or laminal, dental or alveolar)

[Wattmann]

Nasal glottal stop ?? I'm going to steal your highlighting

The vowel is nasal, not the ʔ. Also, colorblind?

1) Oh
2) Wrong hexcode

[Bob Johnson]

Sunday

[Aurora Rossa]

Sunday

Nothing too exciting: [s@n.dEi]

[Rin]

Please delete this.

[Rin]

Following the massive amount of replies the "How do you pronounce Wikipedia" thread got, and the fact that I have such a question as well, I decided to start a thread for this kind of questions. If you wonder how others pronounce something, you can post your question here, and I'll add it to the OP.

So, my question is: How do you pronounce "closer"?

1. How do you pronounce "closer"? [ˈkʰloʊ.sɹ̩]
2. How do you pronounce "cuneiform"? [kʰuˈneɪ.iɪ.fɔɹm], but I'm probably mangling it.
3. How do you pronounce hair, her and heir? [heɹ̩], [hɹ̩], [ʔeɹ̩]
4. How do you pronounce
factory [ˈfæk.ʨɹiɪ]
factorial [fækˈtʰɔɹ.i.jɫ̩]
century [ˈsɛn.ʨɹiɪ]
centurion [sɛnˈʨɹ̩.i.jn̩]
victory [ˈvɪk.ʨɹiɪ]
victorious [vɪkˈtʰɔɹ.i.jəs]
restaurant [ɹɛs.ʨɹanʔ]
restauranteur [ɹɛs.ʨɹanˈtʰuɹ̩]
history [ˈhɪs.ʨɹiɪ]
historical [hɪsˈtʰɔɹ.ɪ.kɫ̩]
mystery [ˈmɪs.ʨɹiɪ]
mysterious [mɪsˈtiɪɹ.i.jəs]
interest [ˈɪn.ʨɹɪst]
interesting [ˈɪn.ʨɹɪs.tɪŋ]
interestingly [ˈɪn.ʨɹɪs.tɪŋ.liɪ]
?
5. How do you pronounce "plosive"? [ˈpʰloʊ.sɪv]

How do y'all pronounce "thank"? In my dialect, I've always said (and heard) [ðæŋk], but it wasn't until I moved to Japan a few years ago that one of the teachers I worked with pointed out that the book said [θæŋk]. Mind blown.

[Bob Johnson]

How do y'all pronounce "thank"? In my dialect, I've always said (and heard) [ðæŋk]

I think I have a vowel merger there, but the initial consonant is clearly [θ]. This sounds like a reception merger, if you can't hear the [θ]. What do you have for <thin thigh throw>?

[----]

It's /θ/ in all the English I've ever heard.

[makvas]

I've noticed in American English, and in my idiolect, /θ/ and /ð/ often are [t̪] at the beginnings of words in informal speech. It's never aspirated or voiced so far as I can tell. Can anyone confirm?

[Astraios]

I have that, but obviously not in American.

[Bob Johnson]

I've noticed in American English, and in my idiolect, /θ/ and /ð/ often are [t̪] at the beginnings of words in informal speech. It's never aspirated or voiced so far as I can tell. Can anyone confirm?

Negative.

That's utterance-medial, right? Initially I could understand at least, or voiced...

[Rui]

I've noticed in American English, and in my idiolect, /θ/ and /ð/ often are [t̪] at the beginnings of words in informal speech. It's never aspirated or voiced so far as I can tell. Can anyone confirm?

My /θ/ and /ð/ are frequently [tθ] and [dð]. The one time I can think of right now where /θ/ becomes [t̪] is in the word "birthday", which is [bəɹ.t̪eɪ]...in fact, in this case, it might actually be an interdental stop rather than a dental one

[communistplot]

closer [kloʊ.sə]
cuneiform [kju.nə.fɔəm]
hair, her and heir [he.jə] [hɜː] [e.jə]
factory [fæk.tə.ɹi]
factorial [fæk.tɔ.ɹjɑʊ]
century [sɛn.t͡ʃɹi]
centurion [sɛn.t͡ʃʊ.ɹjən]
victory [vɪk.tə.ɹi]
victorious [vɪk.tɔ.ɹjʊs]
restaurant [ɹɛs.tə.ɹɑnʔ]
restauranteur [ɹɛs.tə.ɹɑn.tʊə]
history [hɪs.tə.ɹi] or [ɪs.tə.ɹi], [h] tends to be dropped in fast speech and when preceeded by another consonant sound.
historical [hɪs.to.ɹɪ.kəʊ] or [ɪs.to.ɹɪ.kəʊ]
mystery [mɪs.tə.ɹi]
mysterious [mɪs.tiɪ.ɹjʊs]
interest [ɪn.t͡ʃɹɛs]
interesting [ɪn.t͡ʃɹɛs.sɪn]
interestingly [ɪn.t͡ʃɹɛs.sɪn.li]
plosive [ploʊ.sif]
second [sɛ.kən]
seconds [sɛ.kənz]
thank [θeənk] though [k] is rather weak here except when proceeded by another consonant sound.

[Whimemsz]

I've noticed in American English, and in my idiolect, /θ/ and /ð/ often are [t̪] at the beginnings of words in informal speech. It's never aspirated or voiced so far as I can tell. Can anyone confirm?

I've noticed myself doing that a lot (though, as you say, it seems to just be in fast, casual speech). Except I think it's an interdental stop, rather than a true dental one.

EDIT: It might just be utterance-initially though. I'm not sure. It's difficult to tell because it doesn't happen in slower, self-monitored speech, and I can't distinguish them by sound, so I can't tell if anyone else is doing it.