Romanization challenge thread
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Let me try it myself. I want something practical and readable, and easy to type.
Consonants
/p t s t͡ɬ k/ p t s tl k
/m͡b n͡d n͡z n͡ɮ ŋ͡g/ mb nd nz nl ng [1]
/| ! ||/ t' c' l'
/ⁿ| ⁿ! ⁿ||/ nt' nc' nl' [1]
[1] The m/n is omitted when following another consonant (which must also be nasalized).
Vowels
/i e æ o u/ (+ATR) i e a o u
/ɪ ɛ ɑ ɔ ʊ/ (-ATR) i e a o u, first vowel in the word followed by h
Tones
/æ˥ æ˧ æ˩/ á a à
Sample text
/tæ˥!i˩ !ɛ˧kt͡ɬɪ˩ n͡ɮo˥tki˩s ||e˥n͡zⁿ|i˧/
tác'ì c'ehktlì nlótkìs l'énzt'i
Looks like I have found something to use in my own notes.
Consonants
/p t s t͡ɬ k/ p t s tl k
/m͡b n͡d n͡z n͡ɮ ŋ͡g/ mb nd nz nl ng [1]
/| ! ||/ t' c' l'
/ⁿ| ⁿ! ⁿ||/ nt' nc' nl' [1]
[1] The m/n is omitted when following another consonant (which must also be nasalized).
Vowels
/i e æ o u/ (+ATR) i e a o u
/ɪ ɛ ɑ ɔ ʊ/ (-ATR) i e a o u, first vowel in the word followed by h
Tones
/æ˥ æ˧ æ˩/ á a à
Sample text
/tæ˥!i˩ !ɛ˧kt͡ɬɪ˩ n͡ɮo˥tki˩s ||e˥n͡zⁿ|i˧/
tác'ì c'ehktlì nlótkìs l'énzt'i
Looks like I have found something to use in my own notes.
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Tha cvastam émi cvastam santham amal phelsa. -- Friedrich Schiller
ESTAR-3SG:P human-OBJ only human-OBJ true-OBJ REL-LOC play-3SG:A
Tha cvastam émi cvastam santham amal phelsa. -- Friedrich Schiller
ESTAR-3SG:P human-OBJ only human-OBJ true-OBJ REL-LOC play-3SG:A
Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p pʰ t tʰ c cʰ k kʰ q qʰ ʡ/ slender p ph t th c ch k kh q qh '
/pˠ pˠʰ tˠ tˠʰ cˠ cˠʰ kˠ kˠʰ qˠ qˠʰ ʔ/ broad p ph t th c ch k* kh* q qh ' *are velarized velars even possible?
/p' t' c' k' q'/ slender p' t' c' k' q'
/p'ˠ t'ˠ c'ˠ k'ˠ q'ˠ/ broad p' t' c' k' q'
/b d ɟ g ɢ/ slender b d j g gq
/bʱ dʱ ɟʱ gʱ ɢʱ/ bh dh jh gh gqh
/bˠ dˠ ɟˠ gˠ ɢˠ/ broad b d j g gq
/m n ɲ ŋ ɴ/ m n nj ng nq
/ɸ f θ s ʃ ɕ ç x χ ʜ/ slender pf f ts s sh sc cx x qx h
/ħ/ qh
/ɸˠ fˠ θˠ sˠ ʃˠ ɕˠ çˠ xˠ χˠ h/ broad pf f ts s sh sc cx x qx h
/ʢ/ slender 'g
/β v ð z ʒ ʑ ʝ ɣ ʁ ʕ/ bv v dz z zh zj jg gg qg qgh
/ɦ/ broad 'g
/ɹ j ɥ/ slender r y w
/ʋ ɰ w/ broad r y w
/ʙ r ʀ/ br rr qr
/ɬ ɮ ʎ̥˔ ʟ̝̊ ʟ̝/ ls lz lc lx
/l ʎ ʟ/ l lj lg
slender:
/i iː y yː ɨ ɨː/ i í iw íw iy íy
/e eː ø øː ɘ ɘː/ e é ew éw ey éy
/ɛ ɛː œ œː ɜ ɜː/ è ê èw êw èy êy
/æ æː a aː/ a á ay áy
broad:
/ʉ ʉː ɯ ɯː u uː/ uw úw uy úy u ú
/ɵ ɵː ɤ ɤː o oː/ ow ów oy óy o ó
/ɞ ɞː ʌ ʌː ɔ ɔː/ òw ôw òy ôy ò ô
/ɐ ɐː ɑ ɑː ɒ ɒː/ à â ày ây aw áw
All vowels can be nasal. indicated by an ognek
ĕ is inserted between slender consonants and broad vowels, and word initially/finally in clusters beginning/ending with a slender consonant (never capitalized)
ŏ is inserted between broad consonants and slender vowels
Any consonant cluster with two consonants is allowed. Clusters with more than two consonants are however not allowed.
Clusters that might be misinterpreted as digraphs are divided with an interpunct ·
/ɰɮy: ʙɐ:ɥãɢˠl ɯ:χʡɞʑbˠɤʀɹɒ̃:ɴɟ ʟfʌɮɬɨ ħɛ:. dʱœ:ʟ ɜwræ̃ɮq'ˠɒθ ɸˠɐðʋʌɬʎɔ: pø̃ c'ɯɢgʱɵɰp'ɛ̃:nd. χsɔʟ̝̊ɰʉ̃:rɨ̃ ɨc'ˠæ̃./
Ylzíw brâyĕwąyŏgq úyĕqx'gĕòwzjboyqr·rĕą́wnqj lgfòylzlsiy qhê. Dhêwlg èyŏwrrąlzq'awĕts pfàyĕdzròylsljô pęw c'ĕuyĕgq·ghĕoyyp'ę̂nd. ĕQxsĕòlxyų̂yrriy iyŏc'ŏą.
/pˠ pˠʰ tˠ tˠʰ cˠ cˠʰ kˠ kˠʰ qˠ qˠʰ ʔ/ broad p ph t th c ch k* kh* q qh ' *are velarized velars even possible?
/p' t' c' k' q'/ slender p' t' c' k' q'
/p'ˠ t'ˠ c'ˠ k'ˠ q'ˠ/ broad p' t' c' k' q'
/b d ɟ g ɢ/ slender b d j g gq
/bʱ dʱ ɟʱ gʱ ɢʱ/ bh dh jh gh gqh
/bˠ dˠ ɟˠ gˠ ɢˠ/ broad b d j g gq
/m n ɲ ŋ ɴ/ m n nj ng nq
/ɸ f θ s ʃ ɕ ç x χ ʜ/ slender pf f ts s sh sc cx x qx h
/ħ/ qh
/ɸˠ fˠ θˠ sˠ ʃˠ ɕˠ çˠ xˠ χˠ h/ broad pf f ts s sh sc cx x qx h
/ʢ/ slender 'g
/β v ð z ʒ ʑ ʝ ɣ ʁ ʕ/ bv v dz z zh zj jg gg qg qgh
/ɦ/ broad 'g
/ɹ j ɥ/ slender r y w
/ʋ ɰ w/ broad r y w
/ʙ r ʀ/ br rr qr
/ɬ ɮ ʎ̥˔ ʟ̝̊ ʟ̝/ ls lz lc lx
/l ʎ ʟ/ l lj lg
slender:
/i iː y yː ɨ ɨː/ i í iw íw iy íy
/e eː ø øː ɘ ɘː/ e é ew éw ey éy
/ɛ ɛː œ œː ɜ ɜː/ è ê èw êw èy êy
/æ æː a aː/ a á ay áy
broad:
/ʉ ʉː ɯ ɯː u uː/ uw úw uy úy u ú
/ɵ ɵː ɤ ɤː o oː/ ow ów oy óy o ó
/ɞ ɞː ʌ ʌː ɔ ɔː/ òw ôw òy ôy ò ô
/ɐ ɐː ɑ ɑː ɒ ɒː/ à â ày ây aw áw
All vowels can be nasal. indicated by an ognek
ĕ is inserted between slender consonants and broad vowels, and word initially/finally in clusters beginning/ending with a slender consonant (never capitalized)
ŏ is inserted between broad consonants and slender vowels
Any consonant cluster with two consonants is allowed. Clusters with more than two consonants are however not allowed.
Clusters that might be misinterpreted as digraphs are divided with an interpunct ·
/ɰɮy: ʙɐ:ɥãɢˠl ɯ:χʡɞʑbˠɤʀɹɒ̃:ɴɟ ʟfʌɮɬɨ ħɛ:. dʱœ:ʟ ɜwræ̃ɮq'ˠɒθ ɸˠɐðʋʌɬʎɔ: pø̃ c'ɯɢgʱɵɰp'ɛ̃:nd. χsɔʟ̝̊ɰʉ̃:rɨ̃ ɨc'ˠæ̃./
Ylzíw brâyĕwąyŏgq úyĕqx'gĕòwzjboyqr·rĕą́wnqj lgfòylzlsiy qhê. Dhêwlg èyŏwrrąlzq'awĕts pfàyĕdzròylsljô pęw c'ĕuyĕgq·ghĕoyyp'ę̂nd. ĕQxsĕòlxyų̂yrriy iyŏc'ŏą.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Creek:
/p t c k/
/f s ɬ h/
/m n/
/w j l/
/a a: i i: o o:/ + nasality
/ej iw oj aw/
tones: high, low, falling
fà:jâlkìt àpì:jàtí:s. ístì ànàcòmí:t fòllít àpì:jàtí:s. mónt fòllít ò:màtí:tà:n hòpájì:n ìłòłêjcìt ò:mín, hàpó: hà:jàkí:t àpô:kìt fà:jâ:t fòllàtí:s. mónt ò:mâ:n fá:jàłà:nít à:jí: àtî:kà:t sómkì:pàtí:s. mò:mín àjĭ:ⁿpìn sŏlⁿkì:t fòllít ô:màtì:tà:n pó:jì:pàtí:s. mò:mín mà fà:jâlkì sólkì: fòllàtí: hámkòsì:t àhò:skàtí:s. mónt àkíłłejcít tàklêjkàtì:s. mónt àkíłłejcít łíspò:jâ:t àní má:hàkáts cêj máhkìt à:jàtí:s. mò:mâ:n ì:kàná ístà fáccàn à:jí: àtî:kà:t sómkì:t ò:màtí: kî:łłìt ò:màtí:s. mónt ò:mít mà àpí:hò:jí: ístì sòmì:càtí: mà fáccàn à:jàtí:s.
/p t c k/
/f s ɬ h/
/m n/
/w j l/
/a a: i i: o o:/ + nasality
/ej iw oj aw/
tones: high, low, falling
fà:jâlkìt àpì:jàtí:s. ístì ànàcòmí:t fòllít àpì:jàtí:s. mónt fòllít ò:màtí:tà:n hòpájì:n ìłòłêjcìt ò:mín, hàpó: hà:jàkí:t àpô:kìt fà:jâ:t fòllàtí:s. mónt ò:mâ:n fá:jàłà:nít à:jí: àtî:kà:t sómkì:pàtí:s. mò:mín àjĭ:ⁿpìn sŏlⁿkì:t fòllít ô:màtì:tà:n pó:jì:pàtí:s. mò:mín mà fà:jâlkì sólkì: fòllàtí: hámkòsì:t àhò:skàtí:s. mónt àkíłłejcít tàklêjkàtì:s. mónt àkíłłejcít łíspò:jâ:t àní má:hàkáts cêj máhkìt à:jàtí:s. mò:mâ:n ì:kàná ístà fáccàn à:jí: àtî:kà:t sómkì:t ò:màtí: kî:łłìt ò:màtí:s. mónt ò:mít mà àpí:hò:jí: ístì sòmì:càtí: mà fáccàn à:jàtí:s.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p t c k/ <p t c k>
/f s ɬ x/ <f s z h>
/m n/ <m n>
/w j l/ <w j l>
/a a: i i: o o:/ <e a i y o u>
nasality <ñ>
/ej iw oj aw/ <ei iu oi eu>
tones: high, low, falling <acute 0 circumflex>
Fajêlkit epyjetýs. Ísti enecomýt follít epyjetýs. Mónt follít umetýtan hopéjyn izozêicit umín, hepú hajekýt epûkit fajât folletýs. Mónt umân fájezanít ajý etîkat sómkypetýs. Mumín ejŷñpin solñkyt follít ûmetytan pújypetýs. Mumín me fajêlki sólky folletý hémkosyt ehuskatýs. Mónt ekízzeicít teklêiketys. Mónt ekízzeicít zíspujât ení máhekéts cêi máhkit ajetýs. Mumân ykené íste féccen ajý etŷkat sómkyt umetý kŷzzit umetýs. Mónt umít me epýhujý ísti somycetý me féccen ajetýs.
/f s ɬ x/ <f s z h>
/m n/ <m n>
/w j l/ <w j l>
/a a: i i: o o:/ <e a i y o u>
nasality <ñ>
/ej iw oj aw/ <ei iu oi eu>
tones: high, low, falling <acute 0 circumflex>
Fajêlkit epyjetýs. Ísti enecomýt follít epyjetýs. Mónt follít umetýtan hopéjyn izozêicit umín, hepú hajekýt epûkit fajât folletýs. Mónt umân fájezanít ajý etîkat sómkypetýs. Mumín ejŷñpin solñkyt follít ûmetytan pújypetýs. Mumín me fajêlki sólky folletý hémkosyt ehuskatýs. Mónt ekízzeicít teklêiketys. Mónt ekízzeicít zíspujât ení máhekéts cêi máhkit ajetýs. Mumân ykené íste féccen ajý etŷkat sómkyt umetý kŷzzit umetýs. Mónt umít me epýhujý ísti somycetý me féccen ajetýs.
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Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Creek
/p t c k/ <p t c k>
/f s ɬ h/ <f s ł h>
/m n/ <m n>
/w j l/ <w y l>
/a a: i i: o o:/ + nasality <a aa e ee o oo> + ogonek
/ej iw oj aw/ <ei eu oi ou>
tones: high, low, falling <acute unmarked grave>
fà:jâlkìt àpì:jàtí:s. ístì ànàcòmí:t fòllít àpì:jàtí:s. mónt fòllít ò:màtí:tà:n hòpájì:n ìłòłêjcìt ò:mín, hàpó: hà:jàkí:t àpô:kìt fà:jâ:t fòllàtí:s. mónt ò:mâ:n fá:jàłà:nít à:jí: àtî:kà:t sómkì:pàtí:s. mò:mín àjĭ:ⁿpìn sŏlⁿkì:t fòllít ô:màtì:tà:n pó:jì:pàtí:s. mò:mín mà fà:jâlkì sólkì: fòllàtí: hámkòsì:t àhò:skàtí:s. mónt àkíłłejcít tàklêjkàtì:s. mónt àkíłłejcít łíspò:jâ:t àní má:hàkáts cêj máhkìt à:jàtí:s. mò:mâ:n ì:kàná ístà fáccàn à:jí: àtî:kà:t sómkì:t ò:màtí: kî:łłìt ò:màtí:s. mónt ò:mít mà àpí:hò:jí: ístì sòmì:càtí: mà fáccàn à:jàtí:s.
Faayàlket apeejatéés. Éste anacoméét follét apeejatéés. Mónt follét oomatéétaan hopáyeen ełołèicet oomén, hapóó haayakéét apòket faajààt follatéés. Mónt oomààn fááyałaanét aayéé atèèkaat sómkeepatéés. Moomén aję̀pen sǫ̀lkeet follít òòmateetaan póóyeepatéés. Moomén ma faayàlke sólkee follatéé hámkoseet ahooskatéés. Mónt akéłłeicét taklèikatees. Mónt akéłłeicét łéspooyààt ané mááhakáts cèi máhket aayatéés. Moomààn eekaná ésta fáccan aayéé atèèkaat sómkeet oomatéé kééłłet oomatés. Mónt oomét ma apééhooyéé éste someecatéé ma fáccan aayatéés.
/p t c k/ <p t c k>
/f s ɬ h/ <f s ł h>
/m n/ <m n>
/w j l/ <w y l>
/a a: i i: o o:/ + nasality <a aa e ee o oo> + ogonek
/ej iw oj aw/ <ei eu oi ou>
tones: high, low, falling <acute unmarked grave>
fà:jâlkìt àpì:jàtí:s. ístì ànàcòmí:t fòllít àpì:jàtí:s. mónt fòllít ò:màtí:tà:n hòpájì:n ìłòłêjcìt ò:mín, hàpó: hà:jàkí:t àpô:kìt fà:jâ:t fòllàtí:s. mónt ò:mâ:n fá:jàłà:nít à:jí: àtî:kà:t sómkì:pàtí:s. mò:mín àjĭ:ⁿpìn sŏlⁿkì:t fòllít ô:màtì:tà:n pó:jì:pàtí:s. mò:mín mà fà:jâlkì sólkì: fòllàtí: hámkòsì:t àhò:skàtí:s. mónt àkíłłejcít tàklêjkàtì:s. mónt àkíłłejcít łíspò:jâ:t àní má:hàkáts cêj máhkìt à:jàtí:s. mò:mâ:n ì:kàná ístà fáccàn à:jí: àtî:kà:t sómkì:t ò:màtí: kî:łłìt ò:màtí:s. mónt ò:mít mà àpí:hò:jí: ístì sòmì:càtí: mà fáccàn à:jàtí:s.
Faayàlket apeejatéés. Éste anacoméét follét apeejatéés. Mónt follét oomatéétaan hopáyeen ełołèicet oomén, hapóó haayakéét apòket faajààt follatéés. Mónt oomààn fááyałaanét aayéé atèèkaat sómkeepatéés. Moomén aję̀pen sǫ̀lkeet follít òòmateetaan póóyeepatéés. Moomén ma faayàlke sólkee follatéé hámkoseet ahooskatéés. Mónt akéłłeicét taklèikatees. Mónt akéłłeicét łéspooyààt ané mááhakáts cèi máhket aayatéés. Moomààn eekaná ésta fáccan aayéé atèèkaat sómkeet oomatéé kééłłet oomatés. Mónt oomét ma apééhooyéé éste someecatéé ma fáccan aayatéés.
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Creek:
/p t c k/ <p t c k>
/f s ɬ h/ <f s ԓ h>
/m n/ <m n>
/w j l/ <u y l>
/á áː í íː ó óː/ <á áa é ée ó óo>
/à àː ì ìː ò òː/ <a aa e ee o oo>
/â âː î îː ô ôː/ <à aà e eè ò oò>
/éj íw ój áw/ <éy éu óy áu>
/èj ìw òj àw/ <ey eu oy au>
/êj îw ôj âw/ <eỳ eù oỳ aù>
/ã/ <av>
Faayàlkit apeeyatées. Éste anacoméet follét apeeyatées. Mónt follét oomatéetaan hopáyeen eԓoԓeỳcit oomén, hapóo haayakéet apoòket faayaàt follatées. Mónt oomaán fáayaԓaanét aayée ateèkaat sómkeepatées. moomén ayeevpen sovlkeet follét oòmatéetaan póoyeepatées. Moomén ma faayàlke sólkee follatée hámkoseet ahooskatées. Mónt akéԓԓeycét takleỳkatees. Mont akéԓԓeycét ԓéspooyaàt ané máahakats ceỳ máhkit aayatées. Moomaàn eekaná ésta fáccan aayée ateèkaat sómkeet oomatée keèԓԓet oomatées. Mónt oomét ma apéehooyée éste someecatée ma fáccan aayatées.
/fà:jâlkìt àpì:jàtí:s. ístì ànàcòmí:t fòllít àpì:jàtí:s. mónt fòllít ò:màtí:tà:n hòpájì:n ìłòłêjcìt ò:mín, hàpó: hà:jàkí:t àpô:kìt fà:jâ:t fòllàtí:s. mónt ò:mâ:n fá:jàłà:nít à:jí: àtî:kà:t sómkì:pàtí:s. mò:mín àjĭ:ⁿpìn sŏlⁿkì:t fòllít ô:màtì:tà:n pó:jì:pàtí:s. mò:mín mà fà:jâlkì sólkì: fòllàtí: hámkòsì:t àhò:skàtí:s. mónt àkíłłejcít tàklêjkàtì:s. mónt àkíłłejcít łíspò:jâ:t àní má:hàkáts cêj máhkìt à:jàtí:s. mò:mâ:n ì:kàná ístà fáccàn à:jí: àtî:kà:t sómkì:t ò:màtí: kî:łłìt ò:màtí:s. mónt ò:mít mà àpí:hò:jí: ístì sòmì:càtí: mà fáccàn à:jàtí:s./
/p t c k/ <p t c k>
/f s ɬ h/ <f s ԓ h>
/m n/ <m n>
/w j l/ <u y l>
/á áː í íː ó óː/ <á áa é ée ó óo>
/à àː ì ìː ò òː/ <a aa e ee o oo>
/â âː î îː ô ôː/ <à aà e eè ò oò>
/éj íw ój áw/ <éy éu óy áu>
/èj ìw òj àw/ <ey eu oy au>
/êj îw ôj âw/ <eỳ eù oỳ aù>
/ã/ <av>
Faayàlkit apeeyatées. Éste anacoméet follét apeeyatées. Mónt follét oomatéetaan hopáyeen eԓoԓeỳcit oomén, hapóo haayakéet apoòket faayaàt follatées. Mónt oomaán fáayaԓaanét aayée ateèkaat sómkeepatées. moomén ayeevpen sovlkeet follét oòmatéetaan póoyeepatées. Moomén ma faayàlke sólkee follatée hámkoseet ahooskatées. Mónt akéԓԓeycét takleỳkatees. Mont akéԓԓeycét ԓéspooyaàt ané máahakats ceỳ máhkit aayatées. Moomaàn eekaná ésta fáccan aayée ateèkaat sómkeet oomatée keèԓԓet oomatées. Mónt oomét ma apéehooyée éste someecatée ma fáccan aayatées.
/fà:jâlkìt àpì:jàtí:s. ístì ànàcòmí:t fòllít àpì:jàtí:s. mónt fòllít ò:màtí:tà:n hòpájì:n ìłòłêjcìt ò:mín, hàpó: hà:jàkí:t àpô:kìt fà:jâ:t fòllàtí:s. mónt ò:mâ:n fá:jàłà:nít à:jí: àtî:kà:t sómkì:pàtí:s. mò:mín àjĭ:ⁿpìn sŏlⁿkì:t fòllít ô:màtì:tà:n pó:jì:pàtí:s. mò:mín mà fà:jâlkì sólkì: fòllàtí: hámkòsì:t àhò:skàtí:s. mónt àkíłłejcít tàklêjkàtì:s. mónt àkíłłejcít łíspò:jâ:t àní má:hàkáts cêj máhkìt à:jàtí:s. mò:mâ:n ì:kàná ístà fáccàn à:jí: àtî:kà:t sómkì:t ò:màtí: kî:łłìt ò:màtí:s. mónt ò:mít mà àpí:hò:jí: ístì sòmì:càtí: mà fáccàn à:jàtí:s./
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
An unnamed protolang:
/m̥ m n̥ n ɲ̥ ɲ ŋ̥ ŋ ŋʷ̥ ŋʷ/
/ᵐb ᵐɓ ⁿd ⁿɗ ⁿd͡ʑ ⁿɗ̱ʲ ᵑg ᵑgʷ/
/p b ɓ t d ɗ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ ɗ̱ʲ k g kʷ gʷ ʔ/
/f s ɕ x xʷ/
/ʋ ɹ j w/
/i u e o æ a/
Syllables are maximally CVC. Prenasalized stops lose prenasalization after obstruents. Nasals assimilate to following obstruents in POA.
Example sentence:
/ʋeʋti ᵐbipæ ii kʷe æt͡ɕu uɗ̱ʲuŋ̥ n̥o ŋ̥eɲ̥t͡ɕuj iɹ xoⁿd͡ʑ xus ŋʷ̥eoɹ geʋ kʷiɲ̥e ji uxe isa uᵑgixʷ teʔe jim̥pæ æt͡ɕu o ŋ̥ikn̥iɗ̱ʲ saæ uxe ketŋe e eɲæ ⁿɗan̥ti iju tin̥uw ɕewiⁿɗ̱ʲ od͡ʑeʋ mi ᵐɓuᵑgʷ ii faɹ ɕus/
/m̥ m n̥ n ɲ̥ ɲ ŋ̥ ŋ ŋʷ̥ ŋʷ/
/ᵐb ᵐɓ ⁿd ⁿɗ ⁿd͡ʑ ⁿɗ̱ʲ ᵑg ᵑgʷ/
/p b ɓ t d ɗ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ ɗ̱ʲ k g kʷ gʷ ʔ/
/f s ɕ x xʷ/
/ʋ ɹ j w/
/i u e o æ a/
Syllables are maximally CVC. Prenasalized stops lose prenasalization after obstruents. Nasals assimilate to following obstruents in POA.
Example sentence:
/ʋeʋti ᵐbipæ ii kʷe æt͡ɕu uɗ̱ʲuŋ̥ n̥o ŋ̥eɲ̥t͡ɕuj iɹ xoⁿd͡ʑ xus ŋʷ̥eoɹ geʋ kʷiɲ̥e ji uxe isa uᵑgixʷ teʔe jim̥pæ æt͡ɕu o ŋ̥ikn̥iɗ̱ʲ saæ uxe ketŋe e eɲæ ⁿɗan̥ti iju tin̥uw ɕewiⁿɗ̱ʲ od͡ʑeʋ mi ᵐɓuᵑgʷ ii faɹ ɕus/
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/m̥ m n̥ n ɲ̥ ɲ ŋ̥ ŋ ŋʷ̥ ŋʷ/ <mh m nh n ñh ñ ngh ng nghw ngh>
/ᵐb ᵐɓ ⁿd ⁿɗ ⁿd͡ʑ ⁿɗ̱ʲ ᵑg ᵑgʷ/ <mp mb nt nd nc nj nk nkw>
/p b ɓ t d ɗ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ ɗ̱ʲ k g kʷ gʷ ʔ/ <p b bh t d dh c j jh k g kw gw q>
/f s ɕ x xʷ/ <f s x h hw>
/ʋ ɹ j w/ <v r y w>
/i u e o æ a/ <i u e o a â>
/ʋeʋti ᵐbipæ ii kʷe æt͡ɕu uɗ̱ʲuŋ̥ n̥o ŋ̥eɲ̥t͡ɕuj iɹ xoⁿd͡ʑ xus ŋʷ̥eoɹ geʋ kʷiɲ̥e ji uxe isa uᵑgixʷ teʔe jim̥pæ æt͡ɕu o ŋ̥ikn̥iɗ̱ʲ saæ uxe ketŋe e eɲæ ⁿɗan̥ti iju tin̥uw ɕewiⁿɗ̱ʲ od͡ʑeʋ mi ᵐɓuᵑgʷ ii faɹ ɕus/
Vevti mbipa ii kwe acu ujhungh nho ngheñhcuy ir honc hus nghweor gev kwiñhe yi uhe isâ unkihw teqe yimhpa acu o nghiknhijh sâa uhe ketnge e eña ndanhti iyu tinhuw xewinj ojev mi mbunkw ii far xus.
/ᵐb ᵐɓ ⁿd ⁿɗ ⁿd͡ʑ ⁿɗ̱ʲ ᵑg ᵑgʷ/ <mp mb nt nd nc nj nk nkw>
/p b ɓ t d ɗ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ ɗ̱ʲ k g kʷ gʷ ʔ/ <p b bh t d dh c j jh k g kw gw q>
/f s ɕ x xʷ/ <f s x h hw>
/ʋ ɹ j w/ <v r y w>
/i u e o æ a/ <i u e o a â>
/ʋeʋti ᵐbipæ ii kʷe æt͡ɕu uɗ̱ʲuŋ̥ n̥o ŋ̥eɲ̥t͡ɕuj iɹ xoⁿd͡ʑ xus ŋʷ̥eoɹ geʋ kʷiɲ̥e ji uxe isa uᵑgixʷ teʔe jim̥pæ æt͡ɕu o ŋ̥ikn̥iɗ̱ʲ saæ uxe ketŋe e eɲæ ⁿɗan̥ti iju tin̥uw ɕewiⁿɗ̱ʲ od͡ʑeʋ mi ᵐɓuᵑgʷ ii faɹ ɕus/
Vevti mbipa ii kwe acu ujhungh nho ngheñhcuy ir honc hus nghweor gev kwiñhe yi uhe isâ unkihw teqe yimhpa acu o nghiknhijh sâa uhe ketnge e eña ndanhti iyu tinhuw xewinj ojev mi mbunkw ii far xus.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Uzhdarchios's unnamed protolang
/m̥ m n̥ n ɲ̥ ɲ ŋ̥ ŋ ŋʷ̥ ŋʷ/ mh m nh n ñh ñ ńh ń ń°h ń°
/ᵐb ᵐɓ ⁿd ⁿɗ ⁿd͡ʑ ⁿɗ̱ʲ ᵑg ᵑgʷ/ mb mb' nd nd' ndź ndj ng ng°
/p b ɓ t d ɗ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ ɗ̱ʲ k g kʷ gʷ ʔ/ p b b' t d d' tś dź dj' k g k° g° '
/f s ɕ x xʷ/ f s ś x x°
/ʋ ɹ j w/ v r y w
/i u e o æ a/ i u e o æ a
Example sentence:
/ʋeʋti ᵐbipæ ii kʷe æt͡ɕu uɗ̱ʲuŋ̥ n̥o ŋ̥eɲ̥t͡ɕuj iɹ xoⁿd͡ʑ xus ŋʷ̥eoɹ geʋ kʷiɲ̥e ji uxe isa uᵑgixʷ teʔe jim̥pæ æt͡ɕu o ŋ̥ikn̥iɗ̱ʲ saæ uxe ketŋe e eɲæ ⁿɗan̥ti iju tin̥uw ɕewiⁿɗ̱ʲ od͡ʑeʋ mi ᵐɓuᵑgʷ ii faɹ ɕus/
Vevti mbipæ k°e ætśu udj'uńh nho ńheñhtśuy xondź xus ń°heor gev k°iñhe yi isa ungix° te'e yimhpæ ætśu o ńhiknhidj' saæ uxe ketńe eñæ nd'anhti iyu tinhuw śewindj' odźev mi mb'ung° ii far śus.
/m̥ m n̥ n ɲ̥ ɲ ŋ̥ ŋ ŋʷ̥ ŋʷ/ mh m nh n ñh ñ ńh ń ń°h ń°
/ᵐb ᵐɓ ⁿd ⁿɗ ⁿd͡ʑ ⁿɗ̱ʲ ᵑg ᵑgʷ/ mb mb' nd nd' ndź ndj ng ng°
/p b ɓ t d ɗ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ ɗ̱ʲ k g kʷ gʷ ʔ/ p b b' t d d' tś dź dj' k g k° g° '
/f s ɕ x xʷ/ f s ś x x°
/ʋ ɹ j w/ v r y w
/i u e o æ a/ i u e o æ a
Example sentence:
/ʋeʋti ᵐbipæ ii kʷe æt͡ɕu uɗ̱ʲuŋ̥ n̥o ŋ̥eɲ̥t͡ɕuj iɹ xoⁿd͡ʑ xus ŋʷ̥eoɹ geʋ kʷiɲ̥e ji uxe isa uᵑgixʷ teʔe jim̥pæ æt͡ɕu o ŋ̥ikn̥iɗ̱ʲ saæ uxe ketŋe e eɲæ ⁿɗan̥ti iju tin̥uw ɕewiⁿɗ̱ʲ od͡ʑeʋ mi ᵐɓuᵑgʷ ii faɹ ɕus/
Vevti mbipæ k°e ætśu udj'uńh nho ńheñhtśuy xondź xus ń°heor gev k°iñhe yi isa ungix° te'e yimhpæ ætśu o ńhiknhidj' saæ uxe ketńe eñæ nd'anhti iyu tinhuw śewindj' odźev mi mb'ung° ii far śus.
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ESTAR-3SG:P human-OBJ only human-OBJ true-OBJ REL-LOC play-3SG:A
Tha cvastam émi cvastam santham amal phelsa. -- Friedrich Schiller
ESTAR-3SG:P human-OBJ only human-OBJ true-OBJ REL-LOC play-3SG:A
Re: Romanization challenge thread
The phonological inventory of a yet unnamed conlang inspired by Northwest Caucasian languages.
(For an extra challenge, use very few or no diacritics / special symbols and keep polygraphs as short as possible and within common sense. I’ll show my own version later, but it isn't pretty...)
/p t tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ/
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/
/m n nʷ/
/l lʷ j w/
/ɾ ɾʷ/
/ɨ ə a/
Without going into details, vowels become rounded in contact with tautosyllabic labialized consonants, and fronted in contact with tautosyllabic /j/ and palato-alveolars. But allophony doesn’t have to be reflected in the romanization anyway.
The first example sentence is very artificial, since I tried to use as many different consonants as possible. The second one is slightly less contrived:
njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?
[nylʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼujqəʁ ʔʷɒvejˈʒehuːga kʼæjˈt͡ʃønʷ ɮɔwda ˈki ˈbʐʷudaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zɔlʷ ˈɣuːda tʷʼɒˈt͡ʃa]
[xəvejˈʒaga ˈmida təzaxəˈɬəɾsa ‖ ˈtχala xətənzalsæjˈɮahiː]
„I was coming here from Njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəj’s (house) and saw the large ships that have brought exotic goods from distant lands.”
“You have come here and brought us these. Did Tχala ask you to give them to us?”
(For an extra challenge, use very few or no diacritics / special symbols and keep polygraphs as short as possible and within common sense. I’ll show my own version later, but it isn't pretty...)
/p t tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ/
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/
/m n nʷ/
/l lʷ j w/
/ɾ ɾʷ/
/ɨ ə a/
Without going into details, vowels become rounded in contact with tautosyllabic labialized consonants, and fronted in contact with tautosyllabic /j/ and palato-alveolars. But allophony doesn’t have to be reflected in the romanization anyway.
The first example sentence is very artificial, since I tried to use as many different consonants as possible. The second one is slightly less contrived:
njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?
[nylʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼujqəʁ ʔʷɒvejˈʒehuːga kʼæjˈt͡ʃønʷ ɮɔwda ˈki ˈbʐʷudaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zɔlʷ ˈɣuːda tʷʼɒˈt͡ʃa]
[xəvejˈʒaga ˈmida təzaxəˈɬəɾsa ‖ ˈtχala xətənzalsæjˈɮahiː]
„I was coming here from Njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəj’s (house) and saw the large ships that have brought exotic goods from distant lands.”
“You have come here and brought us these. Did Tχala ask you to give them to us?”
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Benturi wrote:/p t tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ p t tw k kw q qw ’ ’w
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ b d dw g gw
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/ p’ t’ tw’ k kw’ q qw’
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ ts tsw tcy tc tcw
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ dz dzw djy dj djw
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ ts’ tsw’ tcy’ tc’ tcw’
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ f s sw tl tlw cy c cw x xw ĥ ĥw h hw
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ v z zw dl dlw jy j jw ĝh ĝw ř řw
/m n nʷ/ m n nw
/l lʷ j w/ l lw y w
/ɾ ɾʷ/ r rw
Vowels
/ɨ ə a/ î e a
/ʲɨ ʲə ʲa/ i ie ia
/ʷɨ ʷə ʷa/ u o wa
/ɨʷ əʷ aʷ/ îu eu au
/ɨʲ əʲ aʲ/ í ei ai
/njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?/
[nylʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼujqəʁ ʔʷɒvejˈʒehuːga kʼæjˈt͡ʃønʷ ɮɔwda ˈkiː ˈbʐʷudaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zɔlʷ ˈɣuːda tʷʼɒˈt͡ʃa]
[xəvejˈʒaga ˈmida təzaxəˈɬəɾsa ‖ ˈtχala xətənzalsæjˈɮahiː]
Nyiultc’oyqeř ’waveyjeheuga k’aytcieun dlauda ki bjodaqeř tetetlersax dzaul ĝîuda tw’atcia.
Xeveijaga mida tezaxetlersa. Tĥala xetenzalsaidlahí?
„I was coming here from Nyiultc’oy’s (house) and saw the large ships that have brought exotic goods from distant lands.”
“You have come here and brought us these. Did Tĥala ask you to give them to us?”
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p t tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ <p t tw k kw q qw ʼ ʼw> (glottal stop is null word-initially if no vowel-initial words allowed)
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <b d dw g gw>
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/ <pʼ tʼ twʼ kʼ kwʼ qʼ qwʼ>
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ <c cw ĉ č čw>
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ <ʒ ʒw ʒ̂ ǯ ǯw>
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ <cʼ cwʼ ĉʼ čʼ čwʼ>
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ <f s sw ł łw ŝ š šw x xw x̂ x̂w h hw>
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <v z zw ⱡ ⱡw ẑ ž žw ğ ğw ĝ ĝw>
/m n nʷ/ <m n nw>
/l lʷ j w/ <l lw j w>
/ɾ ɾʷ/ <r rw>
/ɨ ə a/ <i~ü~y~u e~ö~ə~o ä~a~å>
njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?
[nylʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼujqəʁ ʔʷɒvejˈʒehuːga kʼæjˈt͡ʃønʷ ɮɔwda ˈkiː ˈbʐʷudaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zɔlʷ ˈɣuːda tʷʼɒˈt͡ʃa]
[xəvejˈʒaga ˈmida təzaxəˈɬəɾsa ‖ ˈtχala xətənzalsæjˈɮahiː]
Nülčʼújqəĝ åvejẑéhuuga kʼäjćö́n ⱡåwda kii bžúdaqəĝ tətəłə́rsax ʒålw ğúuda tʼåĉá.
Xəvejẑága mída təzaxəłərsa. Tx̂ala xətənzalsäjⱡáhii.
you may want to replace double-barred l with <ƶ>, dunno
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <b d dw g gw>
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/ <pʼ tʼ twʼ kʼ kwʼ qʼ qwʼ>
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ <c cw ĉ č čw>
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ <ʒ ʒw ʒ̂ ǯ ǯw>
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ <cʼ cwʼ ĉʼ čʼ čwʼ>
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ <f s sw ł łw ŝ š šw x xw x̂ x̂w h hw>
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <v z zw ⱡ ⱡw ẑ ž žw ğ ğw ĝ ĝw>
/m n nʷ/ <m n nw>
/l lʷ j w/ <l lw j w>
/ɾ ɾʷ/ <r rw>
/ɨ ə a/ <i~ü~y~u e~ö~ə~o ä~a~å>
njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?
[nylʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼujqəʁ ʔʷɒvejˈʒehuːga kʼæjˈt͡ʃønʷ ɮɔwda ˈkiː ˈbʐʷudaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zɔlʷ ˈɣuːda tʷʼɒˈt͡ʃa]
[xəvejˈʒaga ˈmida təzaxəˈɬəɾsa ‖ ˈtχala xətənzalsæjˈɮahiː]
Nülčʼújqəĝ åvejẑéhuuga kʼäjćö́n ⱡåwda kii bžúdaqəĝ tətəłə́rsax ʒålw ğúuda tʼåĉá.
Xəvejẑága mída təzaxəłərsa. Tx̂ala xətənzalsäjⱡáhii.
you may want to replace double-barred l with <ƶ>, dunno
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p t tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ <p t tw k kw qq qqw q qw>
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <b d dw g gw>
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/ <p' t' tw' k' kw' q' qw'> (' combines with the following vowel (I don't think you have example words in which this is not possible)
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ <ts tsw tx tc tcw>
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ <ds dsw dz dc dcw>
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ <ts' tsw' tx' tc' tcw'>
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ <f ss ssw lh lhw x cc ccw xh xhw hh hhw h hw>
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <v s sw ll llw z c cw r rw rr rrw>
/m n nʷ/ <m n nw>
/l lʷ j w/ <l lw j w>
/ɾ ɾʷ/ <rl rlw>
/ɨ ə a/ <y e a>
njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?
[nylʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼujqəʁ ʔʷɒvejˈʒehuːga kʼæjˈt͡ʃønʷ ɮɔwda ˈkiː ˈbʐʷudaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zɔlʷ ˈɣuːda tʷʼɒˈt͡ʃa]
[xəvejˈʒaga ˈmida təzaxəˈɬəɾsa ‖ ˈtχala xətənzalsæjˈɮahiː]
njylwtcwéjqqerr qwavej zehewga kájtxenw llawda kjy bcwedaqqerr tetelherlsaxh dsalw rywda twátxa
xhevejzaga mjyda tesaxhe lherlsa. thhala xhetensalssajllahyj?
„I was coming here from Njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəj’s (house) and saw the large ships that have brought exotic goods from distant lands.”
“You have come here and brought us these. Did Tχala ask you to give them to us?”
Just hurt my own eyes with this romanisation. Start working on some mergers man!
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <b d dw g gw>
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/ <p' t' tw' k' kw' q' qw'> (' combines with the following vowel (I don't think you have example words in which this is not possible)
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ <ts tsw tx tc tcw>
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ <ds dsw dz dc dcw>
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ <ts' tsw' tx' tc' tcw'>
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ <f ss ssw lh lhw x cc ccw xh xhw hh hhw h hw>
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <v s sw ll llw z c cw r rw rr rrw>
/m n nʷ/ <m n nw>
/l lʷ j w/ <l lw j w>
/ɾ ɾʷ/ <rl rlw>
/ɨ ə a/ <y e a>
njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?
[nylʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼujqəʁ ʔʷɒvejˈʒehuːga kʼæjˈt͡ʃønʷ ɮɔwda ˈkiː ˈbʐʷudaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zɔlʷ ˈɣuːda tʷʼɒˈt͡ʃa]
[xəvejˈʒaga ˈmida təzaxəˈɬəɾsa ‖ ˈtχala xətənzalsæjˈɮahiː]
njylwtcwéjqqerr qwavej zehewga kájtxenw llawda kjy bcwedaqqerr tetelherlsaxh dsalw rywda twátxa
xhevejzaga mjyda tesaxhe lherlsa. thhala xhetensalssajllahyj?
„I was coming here from Njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəj’s (house) and saw the large ships that have brought exotic goods from distant lands.”
“You have come here and brought us these. Did Tχala ask you to give them to us?”
Just hurt my own eyes with this romanisation. Start working on some mergers man!
χʁɵn̩
gʁonɛ̃g
gɾɪ̃slɑ̃
gʁonɛ̃g
gɾɪ̃slɑ̃
Re: Romanization challenge thread
That was fast, thanks! Nort's romanization is compact and logical, but I have a deep rooted habit of avoiding diacritics (or at least having an alternative spelling without diacritics). Anyway, you've given me some ideas, but this was my original romanization (Warning: ugly polygraphs ahead!):
/p t tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ <p t tw k kw q qw c cw> (youv'e assumed right, no vowel-initial words, so word-initial /ʔ/ is left unwritten)
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <b d dw g gw>
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/ <p' t' tw' k' kw' q' qw'>
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ <ts tsw txy tx txw>
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ <dz dzw djy dj djw>
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ <ts' tsw' txy' tx' txw'>
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ <f s sw sl slw xy x xw kh khw qh qhw h hw>
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <v z zw zl zlw jy j jw gh ghw rh rhw>
/m n nʷ/ <m n nw>
/l lʷ j w/ <l lw y w>
/ɾ ɾʷ/ <r rw>
/ɨ ə a/ <i e a>
/ə a/ (unstressed) <u o> (yes, I know...); unstressed /ɨ/ rarely occurs except in compounds and some final particles
njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?
[nylʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼujqəʁ ʔʷɒvejˈʒehuːga kʼæjˈt͡ʃønʷ ɮɔwda ˈki ˈbʐʷudaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zɔlʷ ˈɣuːda tʷʼɒˈt͡ʃa]
[xəvejˈʒaga ˈmida təzaxəˈɬəɾsa ‖ ˈtχala xətənzalsæjˈɮahiː]
Nyilwtxw'eyqurh wovuyjyehuwgo k'oytxyenw zlawdo kyi bjwedoqurh tutuslersokh dzalw ghiwdo tw'otxya.
Khuvuyjyago myido tuzokhuslerso. Tqhalo khutunzolsoyzlahiy?
I made a mistake, /kjɨ/ is realized as [ki], not [kiː]
/p t tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ <p t tw k kw q qw c cw> (youv'e assumed right, no vowel-initial words, so word-initial /ʔ/ is left unwritten)
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <b d dw g gw>
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/ <p' t' tw' k' kw' q' qw'>
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ <ts tsw txy tx txw>
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ <dz dzw djy dj djw>
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ <ts' tsw' txy' tx' txw'>
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ <f s sw sl slw xy x xw kh khw qh qhw h hw>
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <v z zw zl zlw jy j jw gh ghw rh rhw>
/m n nʷ/ <m n nw>
/l lʷ j w/ <l lw y w>
/ɾ ɾʷ/ <r rw>
/ɨ ə a/ <i e a>
/ə a/ (unstressed) <u o> (yes, I know...); unstressed /ɨ/ rarely occurs except in compounds and some final particles
njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?
[nylʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼujqəʁ ʔʷɒvejˈʒehuːga kʼæjˈt͡ʃønʷ ɮɔwda ˈki ˈbʐʷudaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zɔlʷ ˈɣuːda tʷʼɒˈt͡ʃa]
[xəvejˈʒaga ˈmida təzaxəˈɬəɾsa ‖ ˈtχala xətənzalsæjˈɮahiː]
Nyilwtxw'eyqurh wovuyjyehuwgo k'oytxyenw zlawdo kyi bjwedoqurh tutuslersokh dzalw ghiwdo tw'otxya.
Khuvuyjyago myido tuzokhuslerso. Tqhalo khutunzolsoyzlahiy?
I made a mistake, /kjɨ/ is realized as [ki], not [kiː]
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
No diacritics? Keeping the acute for stress, but...
/p t tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ <p t tw k kw q qw 1 1w>
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <b d dw g gw>
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/ <p' t' tw' k' kw' q' qw'>
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ <c cw tj ch chw>
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ <dz dzw dj dzh dzhw>
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ <c' cw' tj' ch' chw'>
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ <f s sw sl slw sj sh shw x xw xh xhw h hw>
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <v z zw zl zlw zj zh zhw gx gxw gh ghw>
/m n nʷ/ <m n nw>
/l lʷ j w/ <l lw j w>
/ɾ ɾʷ/ <r rw>
[i y ɨ u] <i iu~ui y u>
[e ø ə o] <ie~ei eo~oe e o>
[æ a ɒ~ɔ] <ai~ia a au~ua>
njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?
[nylʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼujqəʁ ʔʷɒvejˈʒehuːga kʼæjˈt͡ʃønʷ ɮɔwda ˈki ˈbʐʷudaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zɔlʷ ˈɣuːda tʷʼɒˈt͡ʃa]
[xəvejˈʒaga ˈmida təzaxəˈɬəɾsa ‖ ˈtχala xətənzalsæjˈɮahiː]
Niulch'újqegh uavejziéhuuga k'ajchéon zlawda ki bzhúdaqegh teteslérsax dzaul gxúuda t'uacha.
Xevejzjága mída tezaxeslérsa. Txhála xetenzalsajzláhii.
/p t tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ <p t tw k kw q qw 1 1w>
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <b d dw g gw>
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/ <p' t' tw' k' kw' q' qw'>
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ <c cw tj ch chw>
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ <dz dzw dj dzh dzhw>
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ <c' cw' tj' ch' chw'>
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ <f s sw sl slw sj sh shw x xw xh xhw h hw>
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <v z zw zl zlw zj zh zhw gx gxw gh ghw>
/m n nʷ/ <m n nw>
/l lʷ j w/ <l lw j w>
/ɾ ɾʷ/ <r rw>
[i y ɨ u] <i iu~ui y u>
[e ø ə o] <ie~ei eo~oe e o>
[æ a ɒ~ɔ] <ai~ia a au~ua>
njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?
[nylʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼujqəʁ ʔʷɒvejˈʒehuːga kʼæjˈt͡ʃønʷ ɮɔwda ˈki ˈbʐʷudaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zɔlʷ ˈɣuːda tʷʼɒˈt͡ʃa]
[xəvejˈʒaga ˈmida təzaxəˈɬəɾsa ‖ ˈtχala xətənzalsæjˈɮahiː]
Niulch'újqegh uavejziéhuuga k'ajchéon zlawda ki bzhúdaqegh teteslérsax dzaul gxúuda t'uacha.
Xevejzjága mída tezaxeslérsa. Txhála xetenzalsajzláhii.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Benturi's Northwest-Caucasian-inspired Conlang:
/p t tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ <p t t k k ḳ ḳ q q>
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <b d d g g>
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/ <p' t' t' k' k' ḳ' ḳ'>
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ <c c č č č>
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ <ʒ ʒ ǯ ǯ ǯ>
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ <c' c' č' č' č'>
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ <f s s ś ś š š š x x ẋ ẋ h h>
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <v z z ź ź ž ž ž y y ẏ ẏ>
/m n nʷ/ <m n n>
/l lʷ j w/ <l l j w>
/ɾ ɾʷ/ <r r>
/ɨ/ <i~oi~io~u, ì~í~ï, ui~iu>
/ə/ <e~oe~eo~o, ie~ei~ë, ue~eu>
/a/ <a~oa~ao~å, ia~ai~ä, ua~au>
(V~wV~Vw~wVw, jV~Vj~jVj, wVj~jVw)
(The element of the grapheme representing adjacent labialisation or palatalisation is not used with adjacent /w/ or /j/, but the other grapheme is retained, e.g. /njɨlʷ/ is <njul>, not <njiul>)
/njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?/
Njulčʼuejḳeẏ ḳavejžiehewga kʼajčeun žawda kji bžoedaḳeẏ teteśersax ʒaol yiwda tʼoačia.
xevejžiaga mjida tezaxeśersa. Tẋala xetenzalsajźahij?
I was aiming to represent secondary articulation more on the vowels to avoid overuse of <w>, but I got a bit stuck on how to handle /ɨ/ around palatals, so I ended up using more diacritics than I'd liked...
/p t tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ <p t t k k ḳ ḳ q q>
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <b d d g g>
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/ <p' t' t' k' k' ḳ' ḳ'>
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ <c c č č č>
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ <ʒ ʒ ǯ ǯ ǯ>
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ <c' c' č' č' č'>
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ <f s s ś ś š š š x x ẋ ẋ h h>
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <v z z ź ź ž ž ž y y ẏ ẏ>
/m n nʷ/ <m n n>
/l lʷ j w/ <l l j w>
/ɾ ɾʷ/ <r r>
/ɨ/ <i~oi~io~u, ì~í~ï, ui~iu>
/ə/ <e~oe~eo~o, ie~ei~ë, ue~eu>
/a/ <a~oa~ao~å, ia~ai~ä, ua~au>
(V~wV~Vw~wVw, jV~Vj~jVj, wVj~jVw)
(The element of the grapheme representing adjacent labialisation or palatalisation is not used with adjacent /w/ or /j/, but the other grapheme is retained, e.g. /njɨlʷ/ is <njul>, not <njiul>)
/njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?/
Njulčʼuejḳeẏ ḳavejžiehewga kʼajčeun žawda kji bžoedaḳeẏ teteśersax ʒaol yiwda tʼoačia.
xevejžiaga mjida tezaxeśersa. Tẋala xetenzalsajźahij?
I was aiming to represent secondary articulation more on the vowels to avoid overuse of <w>, but I got a bit stuck on how to handle /ɨ/ around palatals, so I ended up using more diacritics than I'd liked...
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p t tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ <p t tu k ku q qu 1 1u>
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <b d du g gu>
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/ <p' t' t'u k' k'u q' q'u>
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ <ts tsu tj ch chu>
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ <dz dzu dj dzh dzhu>
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ <ts' ts'u tj' ch' ch'u>
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ <f s su lh lhu sj sh shu kh khu qh qhu h hu>
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <v z zw dl dlu j zh zhu gh ghu x xu>
/m n nʷ/ <m n nw>
/l lʷ j w/ <l lw y w>
/ɾ ɾʷ/ <r ru>
/ɨ ə a/ <i e a>
njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?
[nylʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼujqəʁ ʔʷɒvejˈʒehuːga kʼæjˈt͡ʃønʷ ɮɔwda ˈki ˈbʐʷudaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zɔlʷ ˈɣuːda tʷʼɒˈt͡ʃa]
[xəvejˈʒaga ˈmida təzaxəˈɬəɾsa ‖ ˈtχala xətənzalsæjˈɮahiː]
Nyiluchueyqex uaveyjehewga k'aytjenu dlawda kyi bzhuedaqex tetelhersakh dzalu ghiwda t'uatja.
Kheveyjaga myida tezakhelhersa. Tqhala khetenzalsaydlahiy.
/b d dʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <b d du g gu>
/pʼ tʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/ <p' t' t'u k' k'u q' q'u>
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʷ/ <ts tsu tj ch chu>
/d͡z d͡zʷ d͡ʒ ɖ͡ʐ ɖ͡ʐʷ/ <dz dzu dj dzh dzhu>
/t͡sʼ t͡sʷʼ t͡ʃʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ʈ͡ʂʷʼ/ <ts' ts'u tj' ch' ch'u>
/f s sʷ ɬ ɬʷ ʃ ʂ ʂʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h hʷ/ <f s su lh lhu sj sh shu kh khu qh qhu h hu>
/v z zʷ ɮ ɮʷ ʒ ʐ ʐʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <v z zw dl dlu j zh zhu gh ghu x xu>
/m n nʷ/ <m n nw>
/l lʷ j w/ <l lw y w>
/ɾ ɾʷ/ <r ru>
/ɨ ə a/ <i e a>
njɨlʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼəjqəʁ ʔʷavəjˈʒəhəwga kʼajt͡ʃənʷ ˈɮawda ˈkjɨ ˈbʐʷədaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zalʷ ˈɣɨwda tʷʼaˈt͡ʃa
xəvəjˈʒaga ˈmjɨda təzaxəˈɬəɾsa. ˈtχala xətənzalsajˈɮahɨj?
[nylʷˈʈ͡ʂʷʼujqəʁ ʔʷɒvejˈʒehuːga kʼæjˈt͡ʃønʷ ɮɔwda ˈki ˈbʐʷudaqəʁ tətəˈɬəɾsax d͡zɔlʷ ˈɣuːda tʷʼɒˈt͡ʃa]
[xəvejˈʒaga ˈmida təzaxəˈɬəɾsa ‖ ˈtχala xətənzalsæjˈɮahiː]
Nyiluchueyqex uaveyjehewga k'aytjenu dlawda kyi bzhuedaqex tetelhersakh dzalu ghiwda t'uatja.
Kheveyjaga myida tezakhelhersa. Tqhala khetenzalsaydlahiy.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
TODA!
Nasals: /m n̠ ɳ/
Plosives and affricates /p t̪ ts̪ t̠ t̻ʃ ʈ k b d̪ dz̪ d̠ d̻ʒ ɖ ɡ/
Fricative /f θ s̪ ɬ̪ s̠ ʃ ʂ (ɬ̢) x ʒ ʐ (ɣ)/
Trill /r̘ r̘ʲ r̠ r̠ʲ ɽ͡r ɽ͡rʲ/
Approximant /l̪ ɭ j w/
Sorry, no sample at the moment.
Nasals: /m n̠ ɳ/
Plosives and affricates /p t̪ ts̪ t̠ t̻ʃ ʈ k b d̪ dz̪ d̠ d̻ʒ ɖ ɡ/
Fricative /f θ s̪ ɬ̪ s̠ ʃ ʂ (ɬ̢) x ʒ ʐ (ɣ)/
Trill /r̘ r̘ʲ r̠ r̠ʲ ɽ͡r ɽ͡rʲ/
Approximant /l̪ ɭ j w/
Sorry, no sample at the moment.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Nasals: /m n̠ ɳ/ ⟨m n ñ⟩
Plosives and affricates /p t̪ ts̪ t̠ t̻ʃ ʈ k b d̪ dz̪ d̠ d̻ʒ ɖ ɡ/ ⟨p ŧ c t č ṭ b đ j d ǰ ḍ g⟩
Fricative /f θ s̪ ɬ̪ s̠ ʃ ʂ (ɬ̢) x ʒ ʐ (ɣ)/ ⟨f ṯ ś ƚ s š ṣ (ḻ) ḵ ž ẓ (ḡ)⟩
Trill /r̘ r̘ʲ r̠ r̠ʲ ɽ͡r ɽ͡rʲ/ ⟨ŕ ř r ŕ rr ṛr ṛŕ⟩
Approximant /l̪ ɭ j w/ ⟨l ḷ y w⟩
Plosives and affricates /p t̪ ts̪ t̠ t̻ʃ ʈ k b d̪ dz̪ d̠ d̻ʒ ɖ ɡ/ ⟨p ŧ c t č ṭ b đ j d ǰ ḍ g⟩
Fricative /f θ s̪ ɬ̪ s̠ ʃ ʂ (ɬ̢) x ʒ ʐ (ɣ)/ ⟨f ṯ ś ƚ s š ṣ (ḻ) ḵ ž ẓ (ḡ)⟩
Trill /r̘ r̘ʲ r̠ r̠ʲ ɽ͡r ɽ͡rʲ/ ⟨ŕ ř r ŕ rr ṛr ṛŕ⟩
Approximant /l̪ ɭ j w/ ⟨l ḷ y w⟩
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Toda
/m n̠ ɳ/ m n ṇ
/p t̪ ts̪ t̠ t̻ʃ ʈ k b d̪ dz̪ d̠ d̻ʒ ɖ ɡ/ p t ts tt tc ṭ k b d dz d dx ḍ g
/f θ s̪ ɬ̪ s̠ ʃ ʂ (ɬ̢) x ʒ ʐ (ɣ)/ f th s lh ss c ṣ ḷh kh x ẓ gh
/r̘ r̘ʲ r̠ r̠ʲ ɽ͡r ɽ͡rʲ/ r rj rr rrj ṛ ṛj
/l̪ ɭ j w/ l ḷ j w
/i y ɨ u/ i y ü u
/e ɵ o/ e ö o
/ɑ/ a
/iː yː ɨː uː/ í ý ű ú
/æː ɵː oː/ é ő ó
/ɑː/ á
(I looked up the vowels, since you didn't include them)
/m n̠ ɳ/ m n ṇ
/p t̪ ts̪ t̠ t̻ʃ ʈ k b d̪ dz̪ d̠ d̻ʒ ɖ ɡ/ p t ts tt tc ṭ k b d dz d dx ḍ g
/f θ s̪ ɬ̪ s̠ ʃ ʂ (ɬ̢) x ʒ ʐ (ɣ)/ f th s lh ss c ṣ ḷh kh x ẓ gh
/r̘ r̘ʲ r̠ r̠ʲ ɽ͡r ɽ͡rʲ/ r rj rr rrj ṛ ṛj
/l̪ ɭ j w/ l ḷ j w
/i y ɨ u/ i y ü u
/e ɵ o/ e ö o
/ɑ/ a
/iː yː ɨː uː/ í ý ű ú
/æː ɵː oː/ é ő ó
/ɑː/ á
(I looked up the vowels, since you didn't include them)
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/m n̠ ɳ/ <m n ṇ>
/p t̪ ts̪ t̠ t̻ʃ ʈ k b d̪ dz̪ d̠ d̻ʒ ɖ ɡ/ <p th c t č ṭ k b dh dz d dž ḍ g>
/f θ s̪ ɬ̪ s̠ ʃ ʂ (ɬ̢) x ʒ ʐ (ɣ)/ <f θ s̑ ł s š ṣ ł̣ x ž ẓ (ɣ)>
/r̘ r̘ʲ r̠ r̠ʲ ɽ͡r ɽ͡rʲ/ r rj rr rrj ṛ ṛj <ȓ ȓy r ry ṛ ṛy>
/l̪ ɭ j w/ <l ḷ y w>
/i y ɨ u/ <i ü ë u>
/e ɵ o/ <e ö o>
/ɑ/ <a>
Kwateenm, erthnm eeḍm, wë nooł̣, poonyk fëëkim ëds fëës̑n. Mun goostk, iiṇy wëḍ ofoy, poony ooxëyi. Poolpaaw xaḍθ fiit ooyčën. Kwateenm, erthnm eeḍm, thëëkoł̣yfëł̣k fëës̑n. Kaarpił̣c, iθ eeḍṇ mudhaalaar, itm atm booryč, tüł̣csën.
I don't know what all those <y>s are doing either. That's just what the source says. UCLA's phonetics archive says Toda has contrastive palatalization on word-final consonants.
/p t̪ ts̪ t̠ t̻ʃ ʈ k b d̪ dz̪ d̠ d̻ʒ ɖ ɡ/ <p th c t č ṭ k b dh dz d dž ḍ g>
/f θ s̪ ɬ̪ s̠ ʃ ʂ (ɬ̢) x ʒ ʐ (ɣ)/ <f θ s̑ ł s š ṣ ł̣ x ž ẓ (ɣ)>
/r̘ r̘ʲ r̠ r̠ʲ ɽ͡r ɽ͡rʲ/ r rj rr rrj ṛ ṛj <ȓ ȓy r ry ṛ ṛy>
/l̪ ɭ j w/ <l ḷ y w>
/i y ɨ u/ <i ü ë u>
/e ɵ o/ <e ö o>
/ɑ/ <a>
Kwateenm, erthnm eeḍm, wë nooł̣, poonyk fëëkim ëds fëës̑n. Mun goostk, iiṇy wëḍ ofoy, poony ooxëyi. Poolpaaw xaḍθ fiit ooyčën. Kwateenm, erthnm eeḍm, thëëkoł̣yfëł̣k fëës̑n. Kaarpił̣c, iθ eeḍṇ mudhaalaar, itm atm booryč, tüł̣csën.
I don't know what all those <y>s are doing either. That's just what the source says. UCLA's phonetics archive says Toda has contrastive palatalization on word-final consonants.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
I have no idea how to write this shit down:
Stop: p t k q
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ
Fricative: f s x χ
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃
Approximant: j w ʁ̞
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃
High Vowel: i u
Low Vowel: a
Sample:
/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a /
Stop: p t k q
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ
Fricative: f s x χ
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃
Approximant: j w ʁ̞
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃
High Vowel: i u
Low Vowel: a
Sample:
/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a /

Re: Romanization challenge thread
Stop: p t k q <p t k q>
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ <m n g c>
Fricative: f s x χ <f s h x>
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ <v z gh gx>
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ <j w r>
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ <jn wn rn>
High Vowel: i u <i u>
Low Vowel: a <a>
Sample:
/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a /
Was frajara rv hic xirn twava icicinr zja i rm grawr fat ghwak kwap ram cakragi as twaj qup ra.
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ <m n g c>
Fricative: f s x χ <f s h x>
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ <v z gh gx>
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ <j w r>
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ <jn wn rn>
High Vowel: i u <i u>
Low Vowel: a <a>
Sample:
/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a /
Was frajara rv hic xirn twava icicinr zja i rm grawr fat ghwak kwap ram cakragi as twaj qup ra.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Yaali Annar's challenge:
Stop: p t k q <p t k ḳ>
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ <m n ṅ ṇ>
Fricative: f s x χ <f s h ḥ>
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ <b d g ġ>
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ <y w r>
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ <į ų ą>
High Vowel: i u <i u>
Low Vowel: a <a>
/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a /
Was frayara rb hiṇ ḥią twaba iṇiṇinr dya i rm ṅrawr fat gwak kwap ram ṇakraṅi as tway ḳup ra.
Stop: p t k q <p t k ḳ>
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ <m n ṅ ṇ>
Fricative: f s x χ <f s h ḥ>
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ <b d g ġ>
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ <y w r>
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ <į ų ą>
High Vowel: i u <i u>
Low Vowel: a <a>
/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a /
Was frayara rb hiṇ ḥią twaba iṇiṇinr dya i rm ṅrawr fat gwak kwap ram ṇakraṅi as tway ḳup ra.
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Stop: p t k q <p t k q>
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ <m n ng nh>
Fricative: f s x χ <f s x h>
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ <v z g c>
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ <y w r>
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ <ỹ w̃ r̃>
High Vowel: i u <i u>
Low Vowel: a <a>
/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a/
Was frayara rv xinh hir̃ twava inhinhinr zya i rm ngrawr fat gwak kwap ram nhakrangi as tway qup ra.
or
Stop: p t k q <p t k q>
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ <m n ng nh>
Fricative: f s x χ <f s x h>
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ <v z g h> + tilde on preceding vowel (add ẽC for syllabic or Cẽ for initial)
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ <y w r>
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ <y w r> + tilde
High Vowel: i u <i u>
Low Vowel: a <a>
/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a/
Was frayara rẽv xinh hĩr twãva inhinhinr zẽya i rem ngrawr fat gẽwak kwap ram nakrangi as tway qup ra.
Stop: p t k q <p t k q>
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ <m n ng nh>
Fricative: f s x χ <f s x h>
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ <mv nz nx nrh>
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ <y w r>
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ <ny nw nr>
High Vowel: i u <i u>
Low Vowel: a <a>
/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a/
Was frayara rmv xinh hinr twamva inhinhin'r nzya i rm ngrawr fat nxwak kwap ram nakrangi as tway qup ra.
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ <m n ng nh>
Fricative: f s x χ <f s x h>
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ <v z g c>
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ <y w r>
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ <ỹ w̃ r̃>
High Vowel: i u <i u>
Low Vowel: a <a>
/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a/
Was frayara rv xinh hir̃ twava inhinhinr zya i rm ngrawr fat gwak kwap ram nhakrangi as tway qup ra.
or
Stop: p t k q <p t k q>
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ <m n ng nh>
Fricative: f s x χ <f s x h>
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ <v z g h> + tilde on preceding vowel (add ẽC for syllabic or Cẽ for initial)
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ <y w r>
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ <y w r> + tilde
High Vowel: i u <i u>
Low Vowel: a <a>
/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a/
Was frayara rẽv xinh hĩr twãva inhinhinr zẽya i rem ngrawr fat gẽwak kwap ram nakrangi as tway qup ra.
Stop: p t k q <p t k q>
Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ <m n ng nh>
Fricative: f s x χ <f s x h>
Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ <mv nz nx nrh>
Approximant: j w ʁ̞ <y w r>
Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ <ny nw nr>
High Vowel: i u <i u>
Low Vowel: a <a>
/was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ z̃ja i ʁ̞m ŋʁ̞awʁ̞ fat ɣ̃wak kwap ʁ̞am ɴakʁ̞aŋi as twaj qup ʁ̞a/
Was frayara rmv xinh hinr twamva inhinhin'r nzya i rm ngrawr fat nxwak kwap ram nakrangi as tway qup ra.
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