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Hasdrubal wrote:Gongoe kwangâz
be-PRES.2p.HON PL-gods
They are gods.
(Did I gloss that right?)
No, fi glos yu af mac di langwic geda di glos. So yu swel af af layn fi co dem mohfim de langwic.
No, when glossing you have to match the language with the gloss. So you need to have dashes in the language as well to show the morphemes.


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Ultimate Ridley wrote:
(Personally, I just refer to Wikipedia's glossing abbreviation list and use those, along with a small few extra abbreviations not included on that page, in tandem with this forum's built-in glossing tag, seen in the formatting

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[g=Daroshi]"Darošü"[/g] [g=Tori-]Torj-[/g][g=SEMB]ufum[/g] [g=Hindu Kush-]Khį̈ndëkëç-[/g][g=mountain range-]tejïł-[/g][g=LOC-]eŕïkh-[/g][g=PL-]ïsïm-[/g][g=PRS]jekh[/g] [g=seem-]ëšdeŕ-[/g][g=PRS]jekh.[/g]
(As you saw above, the tag spaces the bits out and matches the bits on the first line [contained between the opening and closing tags] with their corresponding translation/part of speech on the second line [contained within the opening "g" tag itself]. Not everyone uses it, but it's a nifty little tool. As far as I can tell, glossing doesn't really have an official standard [except for the one demanded by whatever school you go to :P] as long as you make it clear what you're trying to convey.)
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jal wrote:
Hasdrubal wrote:Gongoe kwangâz
be-PRES.2p.HON PL-gods
They are gods.
(Did I gloss that right?)
No, fi glos yu af mac di langwic geda di glos. So yu swel af af layn fi co dem mohfim de langwic.
No, when glossing you have to match the language with the gloss. So you need to have dashes in the language as well to show the morphemes.
Aren't you supposed to add a different line with that, under the original text? (I might be mistaken though).

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Hasdrubal wrote:Aren't you supposed to add a different line with that, under the original text? (I might be mistaken though).
Yu in af mek dis, ova it a kostom.
You don't have to, but it is customary.


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‮suoenatroN wrote:Shznp gzt jje chi kvx m mtfq jje.
[ʃə̀ɴ gə́ ⁿdʒē tʃī kə̂ m̩̄ ḿ̩fɒ̄ ⁿdʒē]
ATTEN-similar be to that language at-1S be
I have a language that's sort of like that.

βɪŋ > m̩̄, gooddiachronics
Náň?
[naŋ˨˦]
INT
What (do you mean)?
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:etorw Nortaneous wrote: I have a language that's sort of like that.
Sanisia pwaqi?
Sani-
name.PRES
sia
3s.INAN
pwa-
Q
qi
what

What is it called?
jal wrote: No, when glossing you have to match the language with the gloss. So you need to have dashes in the language as well to show the morphemes.
Was that what you meant?

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Hasdrubal wrote:Was that what you meant?
Olmos! Yu les ste geda dem woh, sem dis:
Almost! You should keep words together, like this:

Sanisia pwaqi?
Sani-sia
name.PRES-3s.INAN
pwa-qi
Q-what



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jal wrote:
Hasdrubal wrote:Was that what you meant?
Olmos! Yu les ste geda dem woh, sem dis:
Almost! You should keep words together, like this:

Sanisia pwaqi?
Sani-sia
name.PRES-3s.INAN
pwa-qi
Q-what

Ok, thanks!

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jal wrote:Olmos! Yu les ste geda dem woh, sem dis:
Almost! You should keep words together, like this:

Sanisia pwaqi?
Sani-sia
name.PRES-3s.INAN
pwa-qi
Q-what
Al plaistai laudés tóci ni dichayuntis.
But most-M.PL.NOM people-PL.NOM so NEG do-HAB.ACT.3PL
But most people don't do it that way.

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Mièir ermano è ahor èt s'Alemaniya și lè șèr pendãta c̦inc șeptezile. Șeișitazi, condutissir èt s'aèrohavar èt Pittsburgh per luo l'envare. Veugle c̦e lè sèie, mè è posiblo c̦e nè valetaie za lè sèie: s'Europa me mãc.
/mʲəjr eɾˈmano ə ˈahor ət salemaˈnijɐ ʃi lə ʃər penˈdɐ̃tɐ t͡ʃiŋk ʃepteˈzilɛ | ʃejʃiˈtazi konduˈtissir ət sæɾoˈhavar ət ˈpitsbuɾk per lwo lenˈvaɾɛ | ˈvʊglɛ t͡ʃɛ lə səˈjɛ mə ə poˈsiblo t͡ʃɛ nə valeˈtajɛ zɐ lə səˈjɛ | sʊˈɾopɐ mɛ mɐ̃k/
[mʲj‿iɾˈmano(Ɂᵊ) ˈahər tsal(ᵊ)ˈmaɲ(ᵊ) ʃil(ᵊ)ʃr penˈdɐ̃t(ᵊ) t͡ʃiŋk ʃep(tᵊ)ˈzil(ᵊ) | ʃejʃ(ᵊ)ˈtazi kond(ᵊ)ˈtissir t‿sæɾoˈhavar‿(ᵊ)t ˈpitsbuɾk per lwo lenˈvaɾ(ᵊ) | ˈvʊl(ᵊ) t͡ʃɛ‿l(ᵊ) ˈs(ᵊ)jə mə poˈsibl(ᵊ) t͡ʃə‿n(ᵊ) val(ᵊ)ˈtaj(ᵊ) zlə ˈs(ᵊ)jə | sʊˈɾop‿mə mɐ̃ŋ]
(Abervon dialect)
My brother's currently in Germany and will be there for the next five weeks. I took him to the airport in Pittsburgh on Saturday to send him over there. I wish I were there, but it's entirely possible that I wouldn't leave were I there: I miss Europe.
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hwhatting wrote:But most people don't do it that way.
Ray, specal dis ples, ova dem "ofical" Laysik glos rul a dem a dem mi ray.
True, especially here, but the "official" Leipzig glossing rules are those that I wrote.

EDIT: Note that "a dem a dem" is not a typo: the gloss is PROG 3P FOC 3P.


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aj, is iz hifraj.
oh | be 3s helpfull
that's helpful.

abar, vevind nikt eek dee regler een o gloss Lajpsig. Is regler een o eek aanfag.
however | use not 1s the rule plural of gloss Leipzig. be rule plural of 1s straightforward.
However, I don't use Leipzig rules. I think my own rules are pretty straightforward.
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YourFace wrote:aj, is iz hifraj.
oh | be 3s helpfull
that's helpful.

abar, vevind nikt eek dee regler een o gloss Lajpsig. Is regler een o eek aanfag.
however | use not 1s the rule plural of gloss Leipzig. be rule plural of 1s straightforward.
However, I don't use Leipzig rules. I think my own rules are pretty straightforward.
As long as you're matching one gloss to one word, you are using leipzig rules. Just make sure to connect grammatical parts of the same word with a dot or dash. The one unclear thing there is that you're using a pipe to separate parts of the sentence - I know this is kind of a standard practice, but it looks too much like a capital i and that's confusing in English so I'd avoid it.

Also, quit using colours unless you're talking "in character" - that's the whole point of using colours.

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...by fam? Hir caen brucen en anter hey at dat.
...says who? He can use a different color for that.

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Thry wrote:...says who? He can use a different color for that.
Dis ol ret a pen pon mi ay! Mi stan geda finlay bo dis.
All this red hurts my eyes! I'm with finlay on this.


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Naikale, yalkapuntisepe. Ya pukuntuyul seseikulanteu lalakipupa.
Neiŋale, yakapunjiseve. Ya pukunduyul sesixulandu lakipupa.
Actually, it doesn't matter. But it's how everyone else is doing it, so.

Tunpun tanyelyakantu sintatituikatante. Tanfanten sinkuitalilaitan. Zeti lusete. Ya sintasiutegate.
Tumbun tanyelyakando shinachitwikatand. Tamvanden shiŋwitalileitan. Jeyi luset. Ya shinachutewat.
Tomorrow I'm going back to my country. My boyfriend will come with me. I'm excited. But I should sleep.

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finlay wrote:Naikale, yalkapuntisepe. Ya pukuntuyul seseikulanteu lalakipupa.
Neiŋale, yakapunjiseve. Ya pukunduyul sesixulandu lakipupa.
Actually, it doesn't matter. But it's how everyone else is doing it, so.
Ä, sari aj kin far riz in. Ta ming ofiþ aj.
oh | sorry 1s be for red plur | do fut stop 1s
Ah, sorry about the red. I'll stop now.
finlay wrote:Tunpun tanyelyakantu sintatituikatante. Tanfanten sinkuitalilaitan. Zeti lusete. Ya sintasiutegate.
Tumbun tanyelyakando shinachitwikatand. Tamvanden shiŋwitalileitan. Jeyi luset. Ya shinachutewat.
Tomorrow I'm going back to my country. My boyfriend will come with me. I'm excited. But I should sleep.
Ta kechil ja þet. Wan kits ja Jetlag
do should you that | want not you jet.lag
You should. You definitely don't want jet lag*.

*that is, if you're taking a plane.
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YourFace wrote:You should. You definitely don't want jet lag*.
*that is, if you're taking a plane.
It a taym wen no slip a gut pas slip, wen yu in go af jet lag. An ye, finlay wil wok yus plen, kos im gona wok fwom Japan tu Inglan, wen mi memba ray.
Sometimes not sleeping is better than sleeping, if you don't want to have jet lag. And yes, finaly will go by plain, as he'll travel from Japan to England, if I'm recalling correctly.


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That's right (almost - Scotland), although right now i'm at Schiphol. And tired because it's now 3am Japan time, but going west is always easier than going east, jet-lag-wise.

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Ah ye, Skotlan, way mi fogot?
Ah yeah, Scotland, how could I forget?


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Ἰ Ἀλμάνῑ, ίνισἐτ ἰ μόρτι. Ἴτα ίνιὐτ λιὲ δῥύνδἑμ. Κἢτ ίνιασε ἰ σἵῠα;
I Almanî, inise't i morti. Ita iniu't lie dhrundhem. Cê't iniase i-shiva?
in Germany.DAT || fire=COP-3SG in air.DAT || so hot-N=COP.3SG () bake\PAS-1PL || how=COP-3SG temperature in=2PL.DAT
In Germany, there's fire in the air. It's so hot it feels like being baked. How's the temperature for you all?
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Luan wrote:Ἰ Ἀλμάνῑ, ίνισἐτ ἰ μόρτι. Ἴτα ίνιὐτ λιὲ δῥύνδἑμ. Κἢτ ίνιασε ἰ σἵῠα;
I Almanî, inise't i morti. Ita iniu't lie dhrundhem. Cê't iniase i-shiva?
in Germany.DAT || fire=COP-3SG in air.DAT || so hot-N=COP.3SG () bake\PAS-1PL || how=COP-3SG temperature in=2PL.DAT
In Germany, there's fire in the air. It's so hot it feels like being baked. How's the temperature for you all?
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Luan wrote:How's the temperature for you all?
Pwaya de, it ja swi ten swi, dis de it gona swi ten. Ova nes de, man tok it gona swi ten sevn.
Yesterday it was 33 [Celcius], today it'll be 30. Tomorrow however, it is said to be 37.


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taxlera hanjashkri. zha mdzamx zha imra amosaq. bzhu da zham zqathal khri lushxru? bzhu zgu lyupqazo? zha gqorazha ikutskshliri
it is fucking boiling. if i go outside i'll catch fire. why did my ancestors ever come here? how did they not keel over dead? i'm moving to fucking yakutsk

(soqol, imra xmzha rgiza chre, mera...)
(alright, it's 74 degrees, but still.)
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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Addae hit is 35º. Y inblyve....
Today it's 35º (95 F). I'll stay in...

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