Help your conlang fluency (2)

[clawgrip]

Bgeychaot jung demtkaiyl kwaut.
today become be.humid be.additional.to
It has gotten more humid today.

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Bocus corem assum desse cangō. Cinō Camacram icī. Cireia fuit.
I think it's hot. Yesterday I went to Kamakura. It was nice.

Please tell me bocus is I and that this is Latin with a Japanese vocabulary<3

Sō dest.

[Skomakar'n]

Bocus corem assum desse cangō. Cinō Camacram icī. Cireia fuit.
I think it's hot. Yesterday I went to Kamakura. It was nice.

Please tell me bocus is I and that this is Latin with a Japanese vocabulary<3

Sō dest.

Amor scitor.

[finlay]

Lahongum sreddum de "C&C Quickies"-e āt.
Lapanese has a thread in "C&C Quickies".

[Skomakar'n]

sreddum
thread

This is the best parody of the sad truth about Japanese ever.

Second best thing ever: I just assigned the root for 'cuckoo' in Vanga as hú<>h-, making the word for the bird húhah. Formally [ˈhʊːhɑħ] and occasionally colloquially [ˈhʊːʕɑħ].

Translated my Arabic sentence, which is still true, from the other thread, into Vanga:

Álųḷjœus kolknunalji ląuḷnun jœupnnæwi.
á<>l-Ųḷ-jœ<>w-ˤh-z ko<>lk-n-ʷn-Alji lá<>w-Ųḷ-n-ʷn jœ<>w-f-n-j-Awi
I'm watching a movie with five of my friends.
be_feeted-SEM/ABL-see-3P-INANIM be_warm/be_dear-PLUR-4P-OBJ.1PS hand-SEM/ABL-PLUR-4P see-TRANS-PLUR-1P-OBJ.3PS
"Moving-picture-it_is friends-they-other-are_for_me five-they-other-are see-at-we-that_first_thing."
[ˈɑːð̞ʊ̃ʎ̥œʊ̯s̻ ˈkɔl̥kn̥ʊ̃nɑljɯ̯ ˈð̞ɑ̃ʊ̯̃l̥tn̥ʊ̃ŋː ˈœʊ̯pŋ̊æʊ̯wɯ̯]

[Christopher Schröder]

Álųḷjœus kolknunalji ląuḷnun jœupnnæwi.
á<>l-Ųḷ-jœ<>w-ˤh-z ko<>lk-n-ʷn-Alji lá<>w-Ųḷ-n-ʷn jœ<>w-f-n-j-Awi
I'm watching a movie with five of my friends.
be_feeted-SEM/ABL-see-3P-INANIM be_warm/be_dear-PLUR-4P-OBJ.1PS hand-SEM/ABL-PLUR-4P see-TRANS-PLUR-1P-OBJ.3PS
"Moving-picture-it_is friends-they-other-are_for_me five-they-other-are see-at-we-that_first_thing."
[ˈɑːð̞ʊ̃ʎ̥œʊ̯s̻ ˈkɔl̥kn̥ʊ̃nɑljɯ̯ ˈð̞ɑ̃ʊ̯̃l̥tn̥ʊ̃ŋː ˈœʊ̯pŋ̊æʊ̯wɯ̯]

Lieh Fellen?
[lie 'fɛl.ɛn]
Which Film?

[Skomakar'n]

Álųḷjœus kolknunalji ląuḷnun jœupnnæwi.
á<>l-Ųḷ-jœ<>w-ˤh-z ko<>lk-n-ʷn-Alji lá<>w-Ųḷ-n-ʷn jœ<>w-f-n-j-Awi
I'm watching a movie with five of my friends.
be_feeted-SEM/ABL-see-3P-INANIM be_warm/be_dear-PLUR-4P-OBJ.1PS hand-SEM/ABL-PLUR-4P see-TRANS-PLUR-1P-OBJ.3PS
"Moving-picture-it_is friends-they-other-are_for_me five-they-other-are see-at-we-that_first_thing."
[ˈɑːð̞ʊ̃ʎ̥œʊ̯s̻ ˈkɔl̥kn̥ʊ̃nɑljɯ̯ ˈð̞ɑ̃ʊ̯̃l̥tn̥ʊ̃ŋː ˈœʊ̯pŋ̊æʊ̯wɯ̯]

Lieh Fellen?
[lie 'fɛl.ɛn]
Which Film?

Qǽjálųḷjœunæs Halímpottah.
All of the movies with Harry Potter.
[ˈqæːjɑːð̞ʊ̃ʎ̥œʊ̯̃næs̻ ˈhɑð̞iːm̥pɔtːɑħ]

Transcribing 'Harry Potter' was interesting.

[Click]

Bocus corem assum desse cangō. Cinō Camacram icī. Cireia fuit.
I think it's hot. Yesterday I went to Kamakura. It was nice.

Piitrumutri Lapanscai.
pi-itru-mut-ri lapansca-i
1SG-love-NPST.ACT-3SG Lapanese-OBL.SG
I like Lapanese.

[Skomakar'n]

Bocus corem assum desse cangō. Cinō Camacram icī. Cireia fuit.
I think it's hot. Yesterday I went to Kamakura. It was nice.

Piitrumutri Lapanscai.
pi-itru-mut-ri lapansca-i
1SG-love-NPST.ACT-3SG Lapanese-OBL.SG
I like Lapanese.

Apsuffódu.
So do I.
[ˈɑp͡s̻ʊ̤ɸːɔːðʊ] (formal standard)
[ˈɑp͡s̻ʊ̤ɸːɔːː] (colloquial standard)

[Jipí]

Mmm, nilu-nilu…
Mmm, let's~think-IMP…
Mmh, let's see…

Narāra eng Behindthename.com, renongreng garanena Harold 'lantaya venkuna'.
say-3S.INAN A.INAN=Behindthename.com, meaning-A.INAN name-GEN Harold 'leader army-GEN'.
Behindthename.com says that the meaning of the name Harold is 'army leader'.

Eng tavongara adanya Venkulantayan ri Ayeri, ku-garanas.
AT.INAN become-IRR-3S.INAN that_one-T Venkulantayan INST=Ayeri, like=name-P.
This becomes Venkulantayan in Ayeri, as a name.

Yoming dahasreng kivisa Venku.
Maybe form-A.INAN small-CAU Venku.
Maybe the diminutive form is Venku.

Nay biratayati nyānang si ang tiya biratayley.
And biratayati person-A REL AT make-3SM.T pot-P.INAN.
And a person who makes pots is a biratayati.

Kada 'Harry Potter' Venku Biratayati ri Ayeri.
Thus 'Harry Potter' Venku Biratayati INST=Ayeri.
Thus, 'Harry Potter' is Venku Biratayati in Ayeri.

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EDITS: Evening out all the little grammar mistakes :(

[Skomakar'n]

Nnó... Hæikælills.
Wow... That was quick.
[ŋɔːː] - [ˈhæɪ̯ɡælɯ̯l̥ːt͡s̻ʰ]

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Sigoto issum. Sigotum de Musasi-Sacaio dest. Cara utie iondiū funa dest.
仕事でいる。仕事は武蔵境である。家から四十分ある。
I'm at work. Work is in Musashi-Sakai. It's forty minutes from my home.

(im already running into the potential problem of whether to borrow Japanese or Latin semantics... So i've created an extra verb issum from いる combined with latin sum, in addition to the existing verb that comes from です. Please correct my japanese version to make sure i have it right!!)

[clawgrip]

Sigoto issum. Sigotum de Musasi-Sacaio dest. Cara utie iondiū funa dest.
仕事でいる。仕事は武蔵境である。家から四十分ある。
I'm at work. Work is in Musashi-Sakai. It's forty minutes from my home.

(im already running into the potential problem of whether to borrow Japanese or Latin semantics... So i've created an extra verb issum from いる combined with latin sum, in addition to the existing verb that comes from です. Please correct my japanese version to make sure i have it right!!)

With いる you use に rather than で for locative. Also, 仕事 is not entirely equivalent to English 'work' in that it does not indicate a place. People usually use 会社 kaisha, or if they work somewhere other than a company, they will be explicit about it, e.g. 病院 byōin, 学校 gakkō, or whatever. The second sentence is correct, but the use of である is literary and stilted. だ, です, or にある would be more suitable. "It takes X amount of time to" constructions use the verb かかる, so 家から４０分かかる。 Also, a small point, but Japanese people rarely use kanji numerals unless they are deliberately trying to look old fashioned, or if it is in a set compound like 一緒 issho 'together', 三次元 sanjigen 'three-dimensional', etc.

Incidentally, Harry Potter translated into Himmaswa is Biakdraap Chnung'yoh (war-leader pot-labourer). The character for 'yoh' doesn't exist yet so I guess I'll have to make that one.

[Nesescosac]

sreddum
thread

This is the best parody of the sad truth about Japanese ever.

Vaţţevoj dūtɨɨsei "sr" cçáã "fr" dydūxuwadei dūWatî.

It may be of interest to you that "sr" became "fr" in the development of Latin.

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Duly noted. Or not... I haven't really written down anything about Lapanese outside of these threads...

As for the japanese translation, again duly noted. I think I'm aiming for にある there; again with で being the locative rather than the connective form of the copula. And as for the third one, this is where I run into problems with semantics. If Japanese uses a different verb for something, should I use that instead in Lapanese? Or should I stick with the Latin; if it uses the same verb where Japanese uses two different verbs, should I use that single verb? What about if Latin has two verbs for something but there's only one in Japanese to be a source for the Lapanese vocabulary? Unfortunately, my Latin is very rusty, although as a general rule its semantics are probably closer in line to English than Japanese.

As for the numbers, I typed in yonjuppun on my phone and that's what it gave me. On my computer if I type that in it gives me a selection of 四十分、四〇分、四拾分、４０分、40分、which is clearly more useful and helpful.

[Thry]

Duly noted. Or not... I haven't really written down anything about Lapanese outside of these threads...

As for the japanese translation, again duly noted. I think I'm aiming for にある there; again with で being the locative rather than the connective form of the copula. And as for the third one, this is where I run into problems with semantics. If Japanese uses a different verb for something, should I use that instead in Lapanese? Or should I stick with the Latin; if it uses the same verb where Japanese uses two different verbs, should I use that single verb? What about if Latin has two verbs for something but there's only one in Japanese to be a source for the Lapanese vocabulary? Unfortunately, my Latin is very rusty, although as a general rule its semantics are probably closer in line to English than Japanese.

S'es Latén junt vocabular japonés, nul mais, 'tant s'es l'ideia a se fixer - just el vocabular (radices) deuria ser japonés, el rest latén (us, semántica, syntaxis, morphologia, phonologia...). Mas s'es una lenga inventada, tu ers qui la usa, 'tant tu ers qui decides. A saças japonés melyor, fa las cosas japonesas, s'es ben.
It's Latin wish Japanese vocab, not more, so that's the idea to stick to - only vocab (roots) would be Japanese, the rest Latin (usage, semantics, syntax, morphology, phonology...). But this is a conlang, you're the one who's using it, so you're the one who decides. If you know Japanese better, do Japanese things, it's ok.

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Boci Latengum tabum īorum iori boci Nihongum dest, cedo bocus Nihongum ima manabiō. Dacara motto sinsen de boci tiseio dest.
My Latin is probably better than my Japanese, but I'm (sort of, anyway) learning Japanese now. So it's fresher in my mind.

(There's the other word that's suspiciously similar in Latin and Japanese: ima/iam)

[Boşkoventi]

Thet Rhud fure Spettel ?
[ðɛt ʁʉd fʉa̯ 'spɛt.ɛl]
The Word for Spit?

En theoria el verb mesm a "ascupir" vendria d'una onomatopeia (n'es is mais el cas n'inglés, l'escupir románic, etc.?)
Presumably the word for "spit" would come itself from an onomatopeia (is it not the case in English, in romance escupir, etc.?)

Ókot uéri. Inglish-uo nu he iamado uinjavo ha [ptu(i)]. (Uk un candia, tennu sadre kánso vada.) Tamis ih, saga Mistaa javodu hadu nui tinde tukansana. Tennu-mut issida mus-e?
[óːkot wéːri || iŋːríʃwo nu he iámá.o wíɲːavo ha ptu(i) || uk un tʃáɲɟa | ténnu sáːre káːnso vá.a || támis iʃ | sáɣa mistáa dʒávó.u há.u nwi tín̪ːe tukánsana || ténnumut ísːí.a múse]
"Probably. In English there's also the onomatopeia [ptu(i)]. (I'm not sure how to write that.) Problem is, all Mzta words sound like spitting. So which one do you choose?"

* Ókot uéri is from Victot li Rhák ókot véri "(it) can (be) so"


Ókot_uéri Inglish-uo  nu     he   iamado uinjavo     ha     [ptu(i)]
probably* English-LOC AUX.C5 also exist  onomatopeia DEF.C5 (sound)

uk  un     candi-a tej-nu     sad(i)r-e kánso vad-a
NEG COP.C5 sure-C5 one-AUX.C5 way-INT   write that-C5

Tamis   ih      sag-a  Mista-a javo-du ha-du     nu-i      tinde tukan-san-a
problem COP.C2b all-C5 Mzta-C5 word-PL DEF.C5-PL AUX.C5-PL sound spit-like-C5

Tej-nu=mut      issida mus-e
one-AUX.C5=thus choose which-INT

[Nortaneous]

Harry Potter in Kannow = Daaksʼaŗ Igỳyw. in Enzielu, that'd be... let's see, Kastnil dialect would have something like Daatxaz Ĕgueju -> Standard Daatzaz Ĕrruixu

[dɑːxtsʼɑr ʔiɵ̯gʷʉ̯ɨːw], [dɑːtɕɑs̪ əɣu̯eçu], [dɑːtθɑθ ɛrːui̯ʃu]

[clawgrip]

Also, 仕事 is not entirely equivalent to English 'work' in that it does not indicate a place. People usually use 会社 kaisha, or if they work somewhere other than a company, they will be explicit about it, e.g. 病院 byōin, 学校 gakkō, or whatever.

Hwai hwang dua 職場 pauk taiyng.
1 forget PERF 職場 be.additional speak
I forgot, people also say 職場 shokuba.

Incidentally, Harry Potter translated into Himmaswa is Biakdraap Chnung'yoh (war-leader pot-labourer).

Biakdraap Chnung'yoh

[Lyhoko Leaci]

Harry Potter transliterations: (no translations here)

Anaan:
袙迖儿･哈鈤
Pater Hari
[patɚ haɾi]

Note that for standard transliteration, Anaan uses characters which tend to not have a meaning in Anaan, and mostly use pronunciations from Chinese. Names that use meaning can certainly be used, however. I just don't feel like taking the time to do so.

Ancaron:
Ari Pater
[aːɪ pateɚ]
Ar-i pat-er
land-mixture bright-plane
ari could also be [əɾɪ], though that has no meaning whatsoever, and is formed by mashing two grammatical affixes together... backwards. (ri's a prefix, a's a suffix)

[Skomakar'n]

It becomes terribly long in Vanga.

Fálýḷænnæh Smúzųḷómanah
[ˈfɑːɾyːl̥æŋæħ ˈs̻tm̥ʊːzʊ̃l̥ɔːmɑnɑħ]

However, Harry is a diminutive or shortening, and Fálah [ˈfɑːɾɑħ], literally warrior, is not a name that improbable in itself, maybe.

[Nannalu]

Ig Voodselvergiftung geverschaffe in Johannesburg dog et ischt byna semtlig Fuetsch.
I got food poisoning in Johannesburg but it is nearly all gone.

[Thry]

Ig Voodselvergiftung geverschaffe in Johannesburg dog et ischt byna semtlig Fuetsch.
I got food poisoning in Johannesburg but it is nearly all gone.

Cos t'eia deieu?
Where did you get it from? (Lit. What gave it to you?)

Se matén vais veure la residéncia ond suppostament vais máner mult ains.
This morning I'll go see the dorms where I'll presumably stay for many years.

[Nortaneous]

also, Insular Kett, without acutes because I'm lazy: Rakcern Manchauri [ˈɾɑktsɪɳ mɐntsˈχɔuʑj]